Anxiety/depression

[Tomshardware]

"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

[chim chim cha boo]

"side effect, you are another of all the posters I absolutely admire and think you are a lesson and inspiration to us all. If fact, most of the posters who take two steps forward and one back are desperately trying to get back on the rails (and especially have never been ON the rails because let's face it, some of us grew without positive role models and had dreadful early lives). I come on here when a certain someone starts screaming at me me in the ticket booth around about 100 West Ham fans start looking at me and I let him fuck off angry (no reason why?) and embarrassingly having to walk around the whole stadium and find another seat. It's fucking tough but remember we're WEST HAM and so are we."

[side effect]

That's my first 4 weeks completed since quitting amitriptyline after 20 years and played to say no vivid nightmares or any other symptoms. Infact feeling much better than I though. Blessings to all.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

chim chim cha boo It's lovely to see so many of my favourite posters still fighting the good fight and despite so many 'black dog' days getting up and having another swing. Just because you suffer from mental health issues doesn't mean you're not made of the right stuff and there is seriously not a single poster on this thread I wouldn't be proud to share a trench with. Pretty remarkable when you think of it. Great post fella

[Pentonville]

"Oxycotin is a fucking nightmare. As is Quertiapine As is Valium Propanalol is also a bit if a mind bender over 40mg Alot of you talk with naievty, ive been on every drug EXCEPT anti depressants. i didnt enjoy fluxuetine or sitrrinel or however u spell it. they can make u more suicidal. prozac is a zombie maker and a dick shriveller heroin is sadly the best drug ever. cocaines is a cunts drug and fentenoyl is chinas way to win the world. if u can get iit and u have anxiety, take 3 valium/diazepam 10mg. 8am, 13pm and 7pm. if u suffer at night from horrific nightmares, get ready cos it will give the cold sweats ask for quertiapine, 25mg is managaeable. 50 mg makes u a bit too euphric when u wake, oxycotine, no, stay the fuck away and im not sure they dish it out here propanolol 40mg will relax u enough for 3 hours"

[Bungo]

"chim chim cha boo 4:56 Mon Aug 12 Re: Anxiety/depression ""well look at Oxycontin, 'the non-adictive opioid wonder drug'. If I miss a dose of that I shake like a shitting dog"". Not sure where 'non-addictive wonder drug' comes from, but as someone that was involved in its launch, hopefully nobody involved would ever have claimed that? As a powerful opiod it is as addictive as any other drug in that class. It's USP at launch was that it had a very wide range of doses from weak to strong, the idea being that a clinician could start a patient on it that they knew would require higher doses eventually, and get them settled on the drug without having to chop and change later on. It made sense to a degree, but UK doctors tend to be (rightly) very conservative, so most were concerned about starting patients on an opioid albeit at a low dose, before they really needed it. Abuse of all these drugs is an issue, partially solved by many now coming in the form of a 'matrix' patch that doesn't allow people to extract the fluid as they did from the older 'reservoir' patches (I never noticed the movie link there before!) :)"

[chim chim cha boo]

"Bungo, well look at Oxycontin, 'the non-adictive opioid wonder drug'. If I miss a dose of that I shake like a shitting dog. It's lovely to see so many of my favourite posters still fighting the good fight and despite so many 'black dog' days getting up and having another swing. Just because you suffer from mental health issues doesn't mean you're not made of the right stuff and there is seriously not a single poster on this thread I wouldn't be proud to share a trench with. Pretty remarkable when you think of it. ⚒️COME ON YOU IRONS⚒️"

[Bungo]

"chim chim cha boo 3:37 Sun Jul 28 The widespread prescribing of amitriptyline is due to a few things. It is cheap and cheerful as the majority of generic drugs are. Many clinicians will use amitriptyline first line because of the cost, but also because it has been around a long time so it is now indicated for several different conditions. Also, many clinicians have now amassed a lot of personal experience with it, which counts for a lot in terms of their confidence in what they are prescribing. Against this is the fact that it is a relatively old ‘dirty’ drug, that does often give patients a lot of unpleasant side effects. It can also be extremely dangerous in overdose. As ever, the choice has to be whether the individual feels that the benefits outweigh the negatives for him or her. That’s what really counts. It is also very true that many doctors distrust drugs that apparantly have ‘no’ side effects. I remember at least one instance in the 90s when a new product launched with virtually no side effects was viewed with great mistrust by doctors, until the manufacturers actively publicised some different trial results, which showed more side effects. Then they started to trust it and prescribe it!"

[Pentonville]

Quertapine? awful. stops ptsd by givimng u euphoric dreams that shock u when u wake and realise they aint true

[Westham67]

I lost weight and eating normally again. I don't weigh myself I go by how my clothes fit and in 6 weeks 34 to 32 waist. No nightmares no cannot get out of bed in the morning Endless repeat prescriptions are easier for a GP there is no planned off-ramp for pain and mental health medication

[side effect]

Thanks 67 It's almost 3 weeks and feeling really well. Also slept quite well last night for the first time. Before I started this I weighed myself on Southend pier and was 12st 10lbs. 3 years later and off those other meds I'm struggling to reach 9st.

[Westham67]

Good luck side. I weaned myself off of Sertraline and other non-stop repeat prescriptions medication and off al meds for about six weeks and feel much better for it

[side effect]

Thanks everyone. It's almost 2 weeks now and it's been much easier than I thought and I'm managing to sleep better as days go by. I dread to think of the damage it might have done and just hope with time I will get passionate about life again. I constantly tell my kids daily to go nowhere near medication unless it's a last resort. What initially started me to want to come off all my meds was seeing people come out the chemist with a shopping bag full of drugs and I told my son that won't be me. From someone who was in the Dr's every week in the 80s 90s I hardly been in years now. Also thanks Mike from the whomail. It was a bit of a struggle to try and reply. Thanks again Take care and try and keep active and be wary of some experts.

[side effect]

Thanks everyone. It's almost 2 weeks now and it's been much easier than I thought and I'm managing to sleep better as days go by. I dread to think of the damage it might have done and just hope with time I will get passionate about life again. I constantly tell my kids daily to go nowhere near medication unless it's a last resort. What initially started me to want to come off all my meds was seeing people come out the chemist with a shopping bag full of drugs and I told my son that won't be me. From someone who was in the Dr's every week in the 80s 90s I hardly been in years now. Also thanks Mike from the whomail. It was a bit of a struggle to try and reply. Thanks again Take care and try and keep active and be wary of some experts.

[chim chim cha boo]

"side effect 2:06 Mon Jul 22 Amitriptyline is a fucking HORRIBLE, dirty drug. It's used as a first resort for loads and loads of different conditions. I took it for two months for my arthritis and told them to put me on something else as it was like I was permanently pissed. The REAL reason they give it to you is because it's dirt cheap-a penny a pill. Getting off it will be the best thing you ever do. It will make you feel alive again. There's an old saying in the medical world that there are no effects without side effects. It's now that I understand your moniker on here! As you can see, we're all roaring you on mate. All the best to you and yours from me and mine x"

[charleyfarley]

all the best side and good luck mate

[side effect]

Thanks Mike I will update as I've got the buprenorphine patch after that.

[Mike Oxsaw]

side effect 2:06 Mon Jul 22 I can really only hope for the best for you. Good luck.

[side effect]

I've just stopped Amitriptyline after 20 years. On day 5 now. Wonder what's in store. I also quit pregabalin after 10 years 17 months ago. At age 61.

[WHU(Exeter)]

"and the other thing was the '20 second cold shower' a day thing. I don't know whether it's a placebo, but I've found it makes you a lot more alert and rational, not just straight after, but for the rest of the day and life in general."

[WHU(Exeter)]

"I've had things go on over the years to have some understanding of a few things that have been mentioned on this thread, so hope that these couple of suggestions don't come across as trivial. I would recommend gardening as a brilliant way to take your mind off things. Above all and without realising it, I think it instills patience into a person, the results are hardly ever instantaneous, you just have to chip away and even just one of the dozen things you've planted flowers or grows fruit, then it'll have been worth it. You end up taking that approach to everything else. it does something to you and ingrains other ways of thinking into you, that modern life doesn't. There was graffiti near my place reading ""gardening is the most revolutionary thing you can do""....I used to think 'what a load of hippy, dippy shit'....years on, I can kind of see there's some truth to it. I think most cities will have places where if you do have mental health issues and don't have access to a garden, they'll have schemes going to get you involved somewhere,"

[chim chim cha boo]

"Hey Peckham, pick yourself up and go again. What is that saying in the Army? 'Victories are not won buy huge pushes and bold advantages-they are won by creeping forward an inch at a time holding your ground for dear life then tomorrow going again. You're a tough fucker I'd spend an entire war shoulder to shoulder with gratefully. You've seen more shit than most of us put together and you've been in worse conditions than this. Are you going to let the fucking rent boys be behind your demise? Not on our watch mate. Please keep reaching out. WHO did a bit towards getting you home from Spain to make your peace with mum and I am sure most of us have been roaring you on. I know you probably don't feel like it at the moment but you've been inspirational. We need characters like you who REFUSE to be beaten down by the nastiest government of our lives. With a fair wing they'll be out on their arses come Friday. Your mindset will improve mate- you've just got to hang on. You're more loved than you think you are and we're all rooting for you, I promise. Good luck mate x"

[Westham67]

Peckham 9:13 Fri Jun 14 What council are you under the care of ?

[Moncurs Putting Iron]

"Peckham, Pentonville has not abandoned you, he has his own problems right now and needs to focus on himself for a bit. Just get through the trial, they are still offering you the bounty despite the eviction. Keep that focus, please don't leave us feeling we have failed you, like I feel about Gavros. :-("

[Peckham]

"Gutted beyond words, my landlord Stoll mansions and Chelsea FC have ordered an eviction and injunction on me after some manic episodes and being bullied, sticking up for myself and now facing being homeless. Stopped the cocaine thanks to an amazing key worker at Shepherds Bush TURNING POINT drugs and alcohol well being ( highly recommended ) but still self harming and only wishing to join my Mother ( die hard hammer - literally ) in heaven. Had Pentonville for support, but as per my form think was too much for him. been through so many next of kins whilst hospitalised. Problem is everyone has own battles. Nothing beats unconditional love of Mothers. If you have your Mum still alive , ring her weekly or daily. Once they have gone you may regret not being so much in contact. Left home 16 , only requainted with Mum and back in country after years abroad, only bonded with my Mother whilst she was dying in covid. Being homeless does not scare me. How to commit suicide is a concern and trying not to kill this bully where I live and via arson destroy my landlords office and prevent Chelsea stamford bridge expansion. Blue cunts. I am not angry, just self harming to stop harming others. All the alcoholics and Chelsea cunts where I live trying to bully me but Police have seized all knives ( seriously ). Miss Pentonvilles support but have mental health team drop meds twice a day. Have a barrister for court on Thursday, a homeless charity for veterans evicting a veteran for not wanting a 100 year old veterans complex from being destroyed by Chelsea."

[Peckham]

"Under London’s gray and storied sky, Where the River Thames flows quietly by, There lies a club with iron and grit, West Ham United, in hearts they sit. From Boleyn Ground to the London Stadium, Echoes of chants create a grand coliseum, Claret and blue, colors so true, Forged in the hearts of the faithful crew. Bobby Moore's legacy, a captain’s pride, A heritage that won't subside, From the terraces, songs fill the air, With passion and loyalty beyond compare. The Irons' spirit, never to bend, In victories and defeats, they transcend, For in the heart of East London's frame, West Ham United stands, proud in name. Through the ups and downs, they rally and fight, Under floodlit nights and daylight bright, With dreams of glory, and tales untold, West Ham United, forever bold. COYI"