Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[Amputee Actor]

"Yes, your almost complete lack of testosterone makes you more aware of 'emotions, relations and the social context'."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Does sex determine different levels of different kinds of intelligence? Or is it upbringing that makes you more or less aware of emotions, relations and the social context?"

[Hermit Road]

Fo. Assigned implies there was a choice and they chose that sex. In truth sex is observed at birth and can also be observed before birth and thousands of years after death because as has been pointed out it is in our building blocks and is an objective truth.

[master]

Actually sex is observed BEFORE birth and can be deduced AFTER death. It doesn't change and it's right there in your building blocks.

[Fo the Communist]

"That's all very correct, Surf. No one in their right mind (nor me for that matter) would dispute that. But sex is also recorded, assigned or whatever you want to call it when a baby enters the world - not least so a birth certificate can be issued. It is the subsequent interventions of the lunatic fringe that cause the issues being debated here - not the 'assigned at birth' action which is a medical examination allowing the lucky newborn to begin his or her journey through the bureaucracy of life."

[peroni]

"Assigned = allocated, appointed, designated. None of which apply to recording a baby's sex. It's the implication of the word that's the problem. It's ridiculous. But not as ridiculous as this: https://unherd.com/2022/06/why-should-lesbians-have-sex-with-men/ This mob should not be defended or even understood in anyway. The Left really need to disassociate itself from this, and other similar lunacy (eg BLM). Then real issues can be addressed."

[peroni]

"Assigned = allocated, appointed, designated. None of which apply to recording a baby's sex. It's the implication of the word that's the problem. It's ridiculous. But not as ridiculous as this: https://unherd.com/2022/06/why-should-lesbians-have-sex-with-men/ This mob should not be defended or even understood in anyway. The Left really need to disassociate itself from this, and other similar lunacy (eg BLM). Then real issues can be addressed."

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Unless I wasn't paying attention during my GCE O-Levels, sex is 'assigned' by nature, at conception. Bringing doctors into it is a ploy to distract from that fact. The sex of the baby is immutable, however many obstetricians dispute that fact."

[Fo the Communist]

"Fifth I have no truck with this trans-nonsense at all. I'm just trying to understand why posters are particularly vexed by that description. It is true, is it, not, that sex is recorded medically and officially at birth based largely on physical observation by the clinician. So the word' assigned' is the problem? Not after a row nor playing smartarse or dumb - just interested."

[Fifth Column]

"Fo ""Assigned"" sounds like people decide something arbitrarily. It's nonsense. The sex of people is observed at birth and recorded. Nothing is assigned. There are children's books in schools which say that ""Doctors assign sex at birth and sometimes they get it wrong"" and they aren't talking about people with Disorders in Sexual Development aka ""intersex"" people who are about 0.1% of the population. These books and the trans lunacy are saying that Doctors assign biological sex and actually they get it ""wrong"" because sex is based on your gender identity. It's unscientific bollocks."

[Fo the Communist]

"Maybe, Sav. I managed to avoid the disorder that compels one to keep up the same tired joke for years on end though. Small mercies and all that."

[Cabbage Savage]

Fo the Communist 6:38 Mon Jun 20 was you assignd with retardashion at birf?

[Fo the Communist]

"Am I missing something? Isn't 'sex assigned at birth' just the medical judgement made when you pop out and based (mostly) on the clinician's examination of your genitals? That is, penis = boy, fanny = girl?"

[mashed in maryland]

"Hermit gets it. Its not so much the question itself, its their stated reasons for asking it. Imagine 10 years ago a professor in a senior position in the NHS stating ""sex is assigned at birth"". Imagine predicting it. You'd have been laughed at. Yet here we are. He's being dishonest to appease the mob or he genuinely believes it. Dunno which would be worse."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"It would be closer to reality if some of these self-identifiers identified themselves as lumps of wood. In the main, these classes are set up to better help society deliver what is required to the correct set of individuals. If everybody picks their own class to self-identify with then it will be a class per individual and management of such services as the NHS will end up swamped (as if they are not already) with trying to administer patient information rather than deliver care to those patients."

[Hermit Road]

"That may be the case but what’s happened here is that staff have/have been told to rigorously enforce the nonsense. As I said, I give blood as often as I am eligible and have never once been forced to tick the ‘not pregnant’ box despite having a pregnant look about my burgeoning gut. That’s in Stratford though where the African nurse probably thinks it’s as stupid as I do."

[Fifth Column]

"Re the blood thing - it is actually a necessary safeguard to ask the pregnancy question thing to people listed as men on the NHS system... because there were ""transmen"" (women who identify as men) was have chosen to be recorded as women on the core NHS records. It was suggested that this would be dangerous but such concerns were dismissed as transphobic and the NHS was transphobic. Then these ""men"" did not receive cervical smear test invitations. Obviously they didn't because they are recorded as men with the NHS. The fucking idiots. The fact they did not receive these letters was apparently transphobic. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-58515769 Point is, you can have people who ""identify"" as a man actually being women and potentially being pregnant. So NHS has to ask the question in case they accidentally terminate a pregnancy. If they didn't change people's medical records to match their ""gender identity"" this would not be a problem."

[Nagel]

"Eerie Descent 3:48 Mon Jun 20 Tell that to the bloke who literally said it was ""a question that can't possibly be answered""."

[Hermit Road]

"The quote below that MiM posted shows that the people in charge of the Scottish health service are all on board. Probably won't be long before it happens here too though as yet, I haven't been asked whether I'm pregnant or not at the Stratford blood transfusion shop whenever I visit."

[Eerie Descent]

"Nagel 2:40 Mon Jun 20 It's got fuck all to do with being impossible to answer, you idiot."

[master]

"Japan's ban on same-sex marriages does not violate the constitution, a district court in Osaka has ruled."

[master]

N/A perfectly reasonable

[Fo the Communist]

If anything is sinister it's that those in charge are not minded to do anything about it.

[Hermit Road]

"I'd definitely go as far as saying it's sinister because it is a determined, institutional attempt to force a false and damaging idea of gender on the majority of the population who believe in old fashioned ideas such as the idea that men can't get pregnant. It is an example of a small number of powerful people coercing a large number of people to do their bidding. It is sinister. You either go along with this or you don't. Going along with the supposedly benign versions of it just allow the proponents of the madness to use those benign things as stepping stones to the more harmful practices they want to promote."

[Fifth Column]

", 11:22 Sun Jun 19 Re: Woke watch Comma, that's bollocks. Athletics deals with issues around biological sex, specifically whether athletes born with Disorders in Sexual Development (DSDs, often known as 'intersex' conditions) should be categorised as male or female. Castor Semenya being the most well known but by no means the only example. That is a difficult issue with no easy solution. Again, because it is about sex. However, the issue of ""gender"" in sport is simple. It doesn't matter what gender you define yourself as. Sport is categorised in male and female. FINA have decided basically that only females can participate in female sport. Good on them."