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arsene york-hunt
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Post arsene york-hunt »

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."
mashed in maryland
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ironsofcanada 6:33 Wed Oct 5 We're repeating ourselves. All I'm gonna say is someone needs to start looking into patients who've died in her care.
mashed in maryland
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Hermit Road 5:59 Wed Oct 5 The reason these perverts have free reign is because the elites are at it too
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"Sorry Nor would I want someone proscecuted for threatening someone, if they got upset about, since you bring it up, conflicts around homosexuality, transgender issues etc. Her ability to do a front-line medical job should not be trusted if she can get that upset on TV, the substance of her outburst is a symptom of that, not the reason. If there is something specific in her code about saying things, I don't agree with that, but it is also a different argument."
mashed in maryland
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Post mashed in maryland »

"""People have threatened my life on here when then got upset, I don't take them at their word."" Not comparable. If she can't be trusted to do her job then she shouldn't do it. Its not about free speech, its about her saying, directly and proudly, in public, that many of her patients don't deserve to live. If anything she needs investigating."
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"mashed in maryland 5:51 Wed Oct 5 I said why I would not trust her. People have threatened my life on here when then got upset, I don't take them at their word. Not would I want someone prosecuted for threatened someone if they got upset about, since you bring it up, That she got that upset on TV"
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The US VP Kamala Harris said that aid for hurricane Ian will be equity driven…. Meaning people of color take priority over bad whitey! This is the VP of the USA….. What a disgusting and awful thing to say when people have lost their lives and homes…… What a hateful bunch the left are….. Do they think this approach will work ffs? It’s nothing but hateful.
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"I think most people on here are aware of Libs of Tic Tok and the evidence she posts on her account. Nobody who sees that will be in the least surprised by the Mermaids stuff. The trans movement is mainlining peadophilia and is doing it openly. Moreover, it is claiming it to be a virtuous act. They encourage children to poll dance and imitate strippers dancing while stuffing money into their clothes and also line children up to watch adult trans dancers/strippers perform while giving the kids money to stick in the perverts' garments. If it was done in secret by aristocrats there would be a media expose on it. It's done openly by an untouchable group though so the press mostly ignore it or supress any criticism of it. It is deeply disturbing to say the least."
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"There's not really any ""sides"" to it. She said directly and unambiguously, in public, that people don't deserve to have their lives saved if they vote differently to her. Its not like refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding. If she was some idiot off the street it would be one thing but she's in the business of saving lives. Would you trust her to do her job?"
ironsofcanada
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"mashed in maryland 4:21 Wed Oct 5 As I said, it is a debate for me. I try and look at it as if she said something I completely agreed with. I think her ability to get wound up and react the way she did is the bigger concern in a practical medical sense. Over the substance of her words. Probably why she is no longer a front line nurse. Dealing with lots of medical people and ethics recently in terms of when you can ignore patient's statements in the case of old age and/or head trauma, so on my mind I guess. These are human beings, both in terms of not being manifestations of a sacred cow and but also having lots of failings and biases. Just trying to work through all sides."
mashed in maryland
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"A medical professional going on TV and saying patients should be allowed to die because of their voting choices is a bit beyond ""censorship"". You can only take people at their word and TBH it'd be a good idea to investigate any deaths on her watch."
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"Fo the Communist 3:50 Wed Oct 5 Rights and laws are not same things in most philiosophies, you need to go full Hobbesian to say they are. But you are correct, I was too broad in what I said: We have the right not to be censored as long as that which is censored does not violate the rights of others. Codes of conduct are not self-censorship (an oxymoronic term at the best of times) they are obviously enforced by an authority outside your self. You enter into them explicitly but it is no different from tacitly participating in society and thereby recognising its authorities. No stricture, law or whatever has any real validity without a mechanism of enforcement."
Sven Roeder
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The ONS have released the lists of popular baby names in England and Wales for 2021 After 8 years at the top of the boys list OLIVER has been deposed by NOAH Top 5 boys names NOAH OLIVER GEORGE ARTHUR MUHAMMAD Why so low for MO? Because MOHAMMED & MOHAMMAD are treatted as separate names from MUHAMMAD Ha ha ha ha
Sven Roeder
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The ONS have released the lists of popular baby names in England and Wales for 2021 After 8 years at the top of the boys list OLIVER has been deposed by NOAH Top 5 boys names NOAH OLIVER GEORGE ARTHUR MUHAMMAD Why so low for MO? Because MOHAMMED & MOHAMMAD are treatted as separate names from MUHAMMAD Ha ha ha ha
Fo the Communist
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Post Fo the Communist »

"All a bit semantic but self-censorship (which is what agreeing to professional codes of conduct might entail) is nevertheless surely censorship, albeit voluntary. I guess it comes down to interpretation of censorship and whether it has to be enforced by another party in order to meet the definition. And we don't really have the right not to be censored either do we? There are tonnes of laws that censor what we say."
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"Fo Not really the same we have the right not to be censored, we don't have the right to ignore Codes that we, ourselves, have agreed to follow when entering a profession. You can't be censored if you have agreed to censor yourself. I guess my question would be: is saying, not doing, something a violation of a code, in and of itself?"
Fo the Communist
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"Irons. It's probably both isn't it. In fairness, she has taken her medicine with seemingly good grace."
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"Fo It's awful ""journalism"" which has become the norm and we have discussed before. To me, the actual interesting debate is whether firing her is censorship or enforcing a professional code of conduct."
Fo the Communist
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Russ of the BML 10:50 Wed Oct 5 So this woman is definitely a paid-Labour activist now is she? Last time I looked that was merely the accusation by some no-mark on Twitter. Now apparently its fact. Her view is clearly as abhorrent as it is daft but the morphing of opinion into fact which nowadays is sadly commonplace is as equally insidious.
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"""The goal isn't to convince the other side, its to make their own side more comfortable saying that sort of stuff about the other side."" ""Yep you now have organised political fruit loops who get to despise each other on a daily basis"" Sounds like all the political arguments in here"
Toe Rag
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"This Mermaids thing is wild. Looks to be a huge scandal about to blow up. Up there with Savile and the notorious Paedophile Information Exchange episode. People really should be behind bars eventually over this. Endorsed by politicians, corporations and celebs everywhere. Utter, utter cunts. Lists are being made."
Fifth Column
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"Joe Royal An actual lesbian, or a bloke in a dress claiming to be a lesbian?"
joe royal
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Velma from Scooby Doo is a lesbian in the new film.
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Why would a charity name itself after a character who's sole role was to lure sailors to their death?
Fifth Column
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"Mermaids charity (the one that wants to put kids on puberty blockers and has been endorsed by celebs and politicans across the planet) has had a Trustee forced to resign after it turns out he is an apologise for paedophiles. I say ""turns out"" - he's publicly written on the subject and spoken about it. The charity knew full well what he thought. Massive nonce-movement this is."
mashed in maryland
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"The goal isn't to convince the other side, its to make their own side more comfortable saying that sort of stuff about the other side. The conversation on the activist hard left is probably now ""well why SHOULD they be resuscitated?"" In other news, as will come to a shock to literally no one, a trustee from the Mermaids charity has been revealed to have spoken at a pro-paedophile event: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63137873 Their day job is an associate professor of ""gender and sexuality"" at the London School of Economics. Errr.. what?!"
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