Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Branded Was this young person reduced to tears by the sheer force of your mighty intellect or was it when you called them a 'spastic 'and a closet 'tranny'

[BRANDED]

"Crass If I may. Is not the issue the perceived offence taken by left, right and centre by language deemed offensive and the degree to which a philosophy in partnership with power can put that right? Its about the impact or words and then actions around offensive language and behaviour? I had a friend’s 22 year old son suggest in conversation that he might not like me as we disagreed on something. As it happens I found him quite interesting as he actually did believe in something but he found it impossible to explain why. It led to him crying which was a shame but you have to learn its inly words and ideas. You must expect others to not have the same beliefs as you and to win the argument be robust or beg to differ. What the young man didnt have was enough robustness in his core beliefs when challenged. What I didnt have was the willingness to accept poor ill considered ideas. Its entirely possible someone somewhere might convince me. They’ll have to be extremely robust in their argument and I’m not averse to post modernist beliefs."

[BRANDED]

"Crass If I may. Is not the issue the perceived offence taken by left, right and centre by language deemed offensive and the degree to which a philosophy in partnership with power can put that right? Its about the impact or words and then actions around offensive language and behaviour? I had a friend’s 22 year old son suggest in conversation that he might not like me as we disagreed on something. As it happens I found him quite interesting as he actually did believe in something but he found it impossible to explain why. It led to him crying which was a shame but you have to learn its inly words and ideas. You must expect others to not have the same beliefs as you and to win the argument be robust or beg to differ. What the young man didnt have was enough robustness in his core beliefs when challenged. What I didnt have was the willingness to accept poor ill considered ideas. Its entirely possible someone somewhere might convince me. They’ll have to be extremely robust in their argument and I’m not averse to post modernist beliefs."

[Fo the Communist]

"Afternoon Crass - hope you are well. I don't think I disagree with much, if anything about your post (bit confused about the gammon reference though). To be honest I'm starting to forget where I came in (age is a terrible thing) but I think my original point was to suggest there's a deliberate attempt to highlight, magnify, and homogenise examples of 'woke' as a means of divide and conquer. . And I suspect all this is a deliberate play by those on - and in hock to - the political populist right as to do so encourages the familiar 'us and them' narrative which serves as a convenient point of difference on which to seek electoral capital. Do I side with the wokies on many issues? No. Do I think we are all being taken for mugs in being sold this idea, for political gain, that our very way of life is under attack because of some palpably daft woke ideas? Very possible. And those on the right who disagree with the last point might be better of asking their Tory friends why we are where we are on their watch."

[Crassus]

"Fo Hiya mate, a quick intrusion if I may There is a clear pattern, the global 'Left' is the domain and indeed the font of Wokism, decrying objectors I'm yet to hear the 'Right' bark about 'Gammons' but serve as the broad resistors of such nonsense Fair minded individuals of the left would serve their aims better by calling the bullshit for what it is, a means of deliberate division And of Asians, it's not some is it? Nothing random about in the slightest.- an example Indians have assimilated and excel, of the Times 100 wealth list, the most frequent demographic are the Indians, specifically 'African Indians' Educationally compare the attainment of Indians, at the top end and Pakistanis, at the bottom. Both originating from the sub continent, both with a culture of extended family and both historically referred to in the 'Paki' pejorative Far more at play than the glib and typically woke explanation"

[Fo the Communist]

"Eerie. I think my point was that I believed CRT, if it was taught at all, was taught as a theory rather than as fact . If it was the former, I'd have no problem, if it was the latter I would have concerns. I'll reserve judgement on Labour's 'plans' until I see the substance. But its a bit of a leap to say that because some Asians have made good there is no structural racism in this country. And I say that in the full belief that the race card is greatly overplayed in this country."

[Eerie Descent]

"And the other point, Fo? Also, I remember you telling me that CRT is not taught in schools. I'm sure you'll have broad enough shoulders to admit you were wrong about that as well."

[Mike Oxsaw]

Who funds these Wokoids? That act as if they have free access to a bottomless money pit.

[Fo the Communist]

Eerie You couldn't be more wrong about my personal circumstances as it happens.

[Eerie Descent]

"""Labour considering plans to tackle structural racial inequality = woke. Blimey"" Why hasn't the 'Structual Racism' that apparently exists in Britain affected the many, many Asians who have come to this country and absolutely smashed it? You're obviously a work lemming, and not involved in running a business. You'd know the crack if you were"

[BRANDED]

First it was the Catholics then it was the woke?

[bruuuno]

Spot on stubbo.

[stubbo]

"- Critical Race Theory - Gender Queer Theory, and the movement to gender affirming treatment of minors - Post-modernist Deconstructionism. Fundamentally all of this stuff leads to a road that is acceptance of ALL deviances, as it proposes all norms and society accepted human morality standards are 'social constructs' and the result of an oppressive patriarchy, where they espouse individuals should be empowered to do whatever they fancy under the guide of 'all human nature is natural'. We're way past the thin end of the wedge...at the other end of the wedge is child abuse as being socially acceptable. Right minded people need to resist this shit with everything they have and at all times."

[Toe Rag]

"Not just America. The black clad antifa lot, though small in number are usually at the women’s rallies counter protesting, trying to look intimidating. Protesting for the rights of blokes to be sprauncing about bollock naked in changing rooms, with your mum/sisters/wives/kids. There was a perv where I grew up who would flash kids on their way to school. Even back then the police wouldn’t do anything about him. Their excuse was he was doing it from his house so they couldn’t do anything. The problem was sorted in the end by a few of the dads."

[BRANDED]

Wokeism exists because some people want to impose ridiculous ideas on others who are happy to push back. Then the woke get offended.

[Fo the Communist]

"KZ As I said, that is unacceptable behaviour and I think that most would agree that the US is fucked left, right and centre just now. I'm far more interested in this country where wokeism apparently flourishes because enough people - on both sides - want it to."

[Lee Trundle]

"TRANS LIVES MATTER went under the radar for me. I'd only heard it for the first time the other day, yet apparently they've been around for a while, jumping on the BLACK LIVES MATTER bandwagon. Seems like they can get away with pretty much anything they want to also."

[Kaiser Zoso]

"I recently watched a clip of some 'brave' American blokes, all dressed in black riot caper, harassing and threatening a group of women protesters. That's not reciprocated on the Right. Your 'explanation' of it being a partisan construct is a load of mealy mouthed bollocks"

[BRANDED]

"Is it not merely who has power in words and ideas? Woke is now a catch all term to describe ideas that are aberrant to the mainstream conservative view point and experience. The ideas would mostly be mad if it wasnt for the fact that they are being embraced by the youth like a pair of hot pants and a back pocket full of condoms. If you dont want this nonsense a stain on your life you fight back against it which has become a mainstream pursuit now, thankfully. Baiting the youth for their embracing this nonsense is great fun. Baiting adults who have bought into it is essential as they have not engaged their brains."

[Fo the Communist]

Arsene For sure there is an element of the left that it up to its arse in cancel culture. Myself and plenty of others on the left would join you in criticising such an attitude. But I remain of the view that the concept of 'woke' has been highjacked and magnified for the political gain of the populist right to create and foment the typical 'us and them' narrative so favoured by those of that persuasion. And most of the media is more than happy to go along and tie any old bullshit ribbon to the old woke tree.

[arsene york-hunt]

....but it is the left who are today's fascists.

[Fo the Communist]

Lefty That's the sort of false dichotomy IronsofCanada used to chide me for resorting to. And he was right to. Arsene The race baiting and wedge-driving cuts both ways. In fact divide and conquer is pretty much the only hope the Tory party has left - hence why the right wing media is so feverishly all over this type of thing.

[twoleftfeet]

"Communist. It might suit you to live in a country where quotas are in place, it worked well in Zimbabwe. How long till BLM decide to reclaim what they believe to be theirs? It's happening already, take the RAF recruitment for example. Just a reminder that over 80% of this country is white."

[twoleftfeet]

"Communist. It might suit you to live in a country where quotas are in place, it worked well in Zimbabwe. How long till BLM decide to reclaim what they believe to be theirs? It's happening already, take the RAF recruitment for example. Just a reminder that over 80% of this country is white."

[arsene york-hunt]

"Structural racial inequality is the term that has replaced institutional racism which was easy to disprove in modern society. Structural racism is very useful to those, like the Labour party, who want to ferment racial division, as it's near impossible to either prove or disprove"