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Woke watch
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arsene york-hunt
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Woke watch
"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."
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Side of Ham
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- ray winstone
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Re: Woke watch
"'policies appealing to working class people who are too thick and racist to deserve a vote, but sadly have one'. Bang.On.The.Money."
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Fo the Communist
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Re: Woke watch
Surf - watch JRM's contribution yesterday and you will (should) be left in no doubt about how he uses the word 'socialist' and what his intentions are. Populist. You can try to put whatever words you like in my mouth. I reject populism as an ideology because it is based on a false premise that seeks to foment and exploit public fears and frustrations. It is inherently dishonest. And of course is an approach of both left and right wing exponents.
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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Re: Woke watch
"FO You're still at it. 'Socialist' is exactly how the Labour Party describe themselves. There's nothing pejorative about it. You just don't like the cut of JRM's jib. Incidentally, the term 'populist' is very telling. It is used by the left to mean 'policies appealing to working class people who are too thick and racist to deserve a vote, but sadly have one'. It has literally no other possible meaning. It's OK, though, working class people haven't cracked the code yet. That's why Labour has done so stunning well in every election since 2005."
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Fo the Communist
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Re: Woke watch
"Surf So we agree both are pejorative - we're down to a shootout for what's most offensive. You are probably right - though I don't agree 'far right' conjures up the Hitler and Mussolini images you initially put forward, I would say the term is currently more damaging than the others under question. But I say 'currently' for good reason. Listen to the way JRM used the word 'socialist' in the Commons yesterday during the carefully choreographed Sue Grey debate - clearly populist, and dangerous, rhetoric from someone who until recently had his spindly fingers on the levers of power."
- Hammer and Pickle
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Re: Woke watch
"Sorry to intercede with an observation but ""left wing"" or ""leftie"" isn't inherently pejorative in terms of political extremism while ""far right"" is. Meanwhile, the use of ""lefty"" by the likes of JRM is designed to get the approval of other reactionaries like him and is definitely not meant to describe the political spectrum in any useful manner."
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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Re: Woke watch
"FO You're doing it again. You're trying to pretend that the label 'leftie' is as pejorative as the label 'far-right'. It clearly isn't, for the reasons I gave. Even if I accepted all the connotations you gave for 'leftie', it still doesn't equate to 'holocaust-loving, xenophobic/racist hater of the poor' which is what what 'far-right' means. To try to suggest that the two terms are even slightly equivalent at the very least verges on whining. Certainly when you start to use phrases like 'dog-whistling' and 'the populist playbook' It'll be 'lackeys of the capitalist running dogs' next."
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Fo the Communist
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Re: Woke watch
"Surf - If I'm whining at all (personally I thought I was chatting on a forum) then its about both labels. To me, the use of 'far right' is mostly lazy and, personally, in the context it's mostly used, I tend to think of knuckle-dragging skinheads rather than the figures you mention. It's subjective I guess - folk will read what they want to into such labels. For me the use of 'lefty', 'leftist' is insidious. Dogwhistle rhetoric portraying internal enemies of the state (lawyers, civil servants etc) thwarting the will of the people and straight from the populist playbook: apparently moderate language cloaking more sinister intent."
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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"FO You've just demonstrated my point perfectly. You whine about the term leftie as if it is as pejorative as 'far right'. Of course, it isn't. Like it or not 'far right' brings up images of Hitler, Mussolini and their monstrous uniformed followers. 'Leftie' merely brings up images of hairy chaps in smoke-filled rooms who like to go on strike a lot. Even 'commie' (rarely used now) isn't as damaging. The left knows this very well, which is why they label everyone to the right of Jeremy Corbyn as 'the right' and everyone to the right of Tony Blair as 'far-right' or, just as often, and just to emphasise the trick, 'fascist'. It's also why the hard left will label the BBC as right-wing in defiance of all evidence to the contrary and at every opportunity. It's the 'big lie' strategy in operation."
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Fo the Communist
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Re: Woke watch
"Surf - the terms like 'leftist' and lefty' are used as a pejorative terms term today in a way they never was a decade or so ago. Same with 'socialist'. That pillock JRM was doing so in the Commons only yesterday. A particularly spiteful performance from him. I say that, in the same spirit as Sydney's comment, in full agreement that terms like 'far right' are also bandied around with equal lack of thought. Whether it's pigeonholing 'far right' or 'lefties' it's symptomatic of the wider problem - the wilful degeneration of proper political discourse in this country."
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Fo the Communist
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Re: Woke watch
"Surf - the terms like 'leftist' and lefty' are used as a pejorative terms term today in a way they never was a decade or so ago. Same with 'socialist'. That pillock JRM was doing so in the Commons only yesterday. A particularly spiteful performance from him. I say that, in the same spirit as Sydney's comment, in full agreement that terms like 'far right' are also bandied around with equal lack of thought. Whether it's pigeonholing 'far right' or 'lefties' it's symptomatic of the wider problem - the wilful degeneration of proper political discourse in this country."
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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Re: Woke watch
"Sydney_Iron 11:10 Fri Mar 3 'To be fair though, the term “far left” gets banded about all too quickly as well!' That's not really true, mate. For instance, Antifa can go out on the streets tooled-up and wearing balaclavas and still not get called that. The asymmetry is indicative of the whole problem."
Re: Woke watch
Silly question really as the basic requirement for cervical screening will be having a cervix. What will inevitably happen though in the figure is some hairy bloke will turn up and demand a screening. This individual having transitioned to blokedom sometime in the past.
- goose
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how long before some fella in a wig and a dress tries to demand he is screened for cervical cancer?
- BRANDED
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"The NHS must reinstate the word “woman” in its cancer and pregnancy webpages, more than a thousand staff in the health service have demanded. At least 19 women’s health pages on the NHS website fail to mention women either at all or in addition to non-gendered language, including for guidance on ovarian and uterus cancer, menopause, childbirth and heavy periods. Some 1,200 NHS doctors, nurses and health practitioners have now written to NHS bosses and all four chief nursing officers to condemn the “discriminatory” move “which harms women”. The Clinical Advisory Network on Sex and Gender, a group of NHS staff, organised the letter after noticing that many NHS.UK webpages had begun shifting to gender-neutral language since 2021, using terms such as “you”, “people” or “person”. For example, the NHS official guidance for ovarian cancer previously began by saying it “is one of the most common types of cancer in women”, now this sentence has vanished along with any mention of women."
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mashed in maryland
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Re: Woke watch
"Anyone who takes flippant accusations of ""racist"" or ""far-right"" seriously these days is an idiot"
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Sydney_Iron
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"only1billybonds 10:07 Fri Mar 3 True, I saw some an article on the BBC of a bunch of concerned locals in Essex I think it was with some signs against a hotel to be used for asylum seekers, the headline was “Far Right protesters” LOL To be fair though, the term “far left” gets banded about all too quickly as well!"
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only1billybonds
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Re: Woke watch
"The term 'far right' us used to false effect so often that uts become something to laugh at. So lets hope the likes if Ghengis keeps usung it, further embarassing himself. Snivelling little cսnt!"
- goose
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Sadiq Khan has been busy labelling those who oppose the ULEZ expansion as ‘far right’ and ‘anti vaxxers’.
- goose
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Usually you would laugh about this nonsense but people take this shit seriously. Is it possible to not have to recruit any ‘gen z’ into the workplace? I bet productivity would go through the roof.
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Sydney_Iron
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Re: Woke watch
"British countryside is racist! FMOB https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8843061/BBC-Countryfile-star-Ellie-Harrison-says-British-countryside-racist.html The British countryside is racist and white people need to acknowledge they have benefited from the past, according to Countryfile presenter Ellie Harrison. The BBC broadcaster said that while rural areas may not be more bigoted than other parts of the country, there is 'work to do' to stamp out prejudice."
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mashed in maryland
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Re: Woke watch
"bigfrank 12:14 Wed Mar 1 If England is to be saved, the right, and Christians, and everyone tbh, should learn from the Muslims. They club together and agitate for pro-Muslim causes and don't give a fuck what anyone says. Schools cave in cos they know what will happen if they don't. Can't blame the Muslims, its their beliefs and they stick to them. All mainstream conservatives do is ignore or attack anyone from their side who tries to do anything about the stuff they moan about. Its no coincidence all this woke stuff, BLM, mass immigration and drag perverts stripping in front of kids has exploded under a Tory government."
- Mike Oxsaw
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Re: Woke watch
"So, will a ""Gen Z"" worker refuse to use a computer unless his/her/they employer can prove (PROVE) it's powered 100% by green electricity? Firstly I'd sooner have workers concentrating on the job for which I employed them - certainly on the time I'm paying them for and secondly, if the wages are high enough, they'll fuck off all ""societal concerns"" in favour of a personal wedge, just like every other realistic cսnt on the planet."