Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Will my youngest had a kid in her class who.. identified as a boy"" Was this kid by any chance a...boy? May just be, if it was a girl, that her parents, in ""protecting"" her were denying her from participating in all the ""fun stuff"" that boys get up to whilst learning about the world."

[BRANDED]

Groomed. Utterly groomed

[Darlo Debs]

Will my youngest had a kid in her class who.. identified as a boy. My daughter didn't really ever ask me any questions about it though she may have asked the kid some to.understand the situation better.. she was cool with it and they got on as far as I know.

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Why do we, as a society have age limits on certain activities, such as joining the armed forces, voting and/or consensual sex*? Is it not because experience has taught society that below what ever age is chosen for that limit, adolescents (neither children or yet adults) have yet to gain enough experience to make an informed decision? Seems to me that people several years past those limits are projecting their personal interpretations down onto (many of) those still yet to reach said limit. So a child is forced to make a life-changing decision virtually before they have any personal, practical experience of life. I smell a hidden agenda at play here. * - we'll learn much about those posters who focus intensely on this 3rd example."

[Willtell]

Debs You never answered my earlier post best summarised as follows. How do you encourage your daughter to empathise with a boy in her class that thinks he is and/or wants to be a girl? She will ask you to explain why…

[Darlo Debs]

Nurse nobody is saying not to debate. Trying to shut people down by insulting them is trying to shut them down in the only way they can on a chat board. Stubbo yeah being empathetic to people is clearly a red rag to a bull

[Darlo Debs]

That's quite an ironic example Nurse given the other minority that Wellby was saying are being abused are Jews. Also where do you think these children with such racist view .might be getting the socialisation from.? You are in the one hand saying uts up to us to socialise kids ( which hopefully would include disciplining bullying) and on the other saying its OK for kids to be bullies if a child isn't confirming. There us a big difference between a child expressing harmful views to others and one just struggling within themselves.

[Nurse Ratched]

"""Free speech works both ways, yet you wouldn't know that on this board at rimes"" No-one is being denied free speech on this forum. People are entitled to disagree with you."

[stubbo]

"I would say this board is very much a free speech bastion. Free speech doesn't mean consequence free speech...if you put yourself out there, you have to be prepared to be judged and commented on, especially if what you say is inflammatory to the masses."

[Darlo Debs]

"Stubbo I have sympathy with a lot of the sentiments of feminists especially when it comes to safe spaces etc. Free speech works both ways, yet you wouldn't know that on this board at rimes"

[Nurse Ratched]

"Everyone wants kids to be kind to one another. It's the mantra of every school in the country. Go to your nearest school at chucking out time and ask the kids who are spotty, fat, lanky, ginger or buck-toothed how that's working out for them. Kids are NOT kind. That's why they need adults to be adults and socialise them But ""hey guys, let's just be kind"" is not the issue here, though I can see why you're pushing it. In telling children 'Be kind to your delusional classmate and deny the truth along with them' adults are abdicating their responsibility towards all children. The adults are indulging the 'trans' child and gaslighting the non-trans child. Gaslighting is a horrible strategy beloved of narcissists and psychopaths. I wouldn't be so quick to approve of it if I were you. Let's try a thought experiment: if a caucasian English child or young person had a sincerely held belief that they were part of the master race and Black people and Jews were beneath them, would you insist everybody at the school/college should be kind to them and not challenge their notions? Remember, these would be sincerely held beliefs about themselves, and the little Nazi wouldn'tbe advoacting HARMING those groups, just that they were not as superior. Do you think the adults should step in and do something about that, or encourage it by not challenging it?"

[stubbo]

"I agree with you Debs at the individual level, where that person is just trying to live their life as they choose. You don't have to agree with them, and you don't even have to like it, but an unassuming individual doing their thing should not be persecuted in anyway provided they're not in danger of hurting themselves unwittingly, or others. However, the principle of free speech is to speak out against groups of people, and to be able to risk upsetting those who advocate for a set of counter beliefs by expressing your own opinion, and for the court of public opinion to then have the day. So it really does depend on the specifics. A lot of these so called ""trans activists"" really should back off....they already have parity, they've had parity for a long time and the right to live their lives confirming to the gender stereotype associated to the opposite sex if they so desire. Where it gets outrageous is when current deliberate and sensible distinctions based on sex that referenced gender (since they were used interchangeably) have now been left inadequate, alongside the idea that you can legally pursue a status identity change in law that allows you to invade spaces designed to be single sex and with good reason. Advocates for this deserve all they get frankly and shouting that they feel bullied and persecuted because they don't get their own way should be called out for what it is. They're a minority, they should be accepted as they are, should not receive special treatment or get what they want just because they get a bit shouty, and should not expect exemption from being judged in the court of public opinion at the group level, especially when heading off on a campaign of group promotion that is leading to the physical and psychological mutilation of young people."

[Darlo Debs]

Have tested negative twice nurse. I still have to test because of work. Nurse are you genuinely saying its justifiable to not be nice to others just because they genuinely feel they aren't the i same dentify as their assigned sex. I am simply talking on a one to one basis. Like I said Wellby was talking about treatment of other minorities too. I am.not getting flack because I am.wrong but because bully boys don't like being called out for advocating that people should stop being arseholes and try having some empathy. They'd be like it no matter what I said.

[Nurse Ratched]

"Debs The reason you are catching so much flak on this issue is because you are wrong. You're just very wrong. As such, you won't persuade anyone. Go and look after yourself because it sounds like you have Covid and the tiredness from that can wipe you out."

[Nurse Ratched]

"Debs The reason you are catching so much flak on this issue is because you are wrong. You're just very wrong. As such, you won't persuade anyone. Go and look after yourself because it sounds like you have Covid and the tiredness from that can wipe you out."

[Darlo Debs]

"Haha Eerie not only can you not answer the question because you have never been forced to do that which you claim , but you can't even insult me properly lol Darlo Debs 3:36 Fri Jul 7 I know you're the the sharpest tool in the box in general Debs, but fucking hell. Trundle can you suggest a better way to frest when you are unwell?"

[stubbo]

goose 4:02 Fri Jul 7 Re: Woke watch That last sentence is for me nail on head and says in about 20 words what I spent about 100 trying to articulate in my post earlier.

[Lee Trundle]

She won't read that. She's hard at work having her afternoon nap.

[Eerie Descent]

"Darlo Debs 3:36 Fri Jul 7 I know you're the the sharpest tool in the box in general Debs, but fucking hell."

[WHU(Exeter)]

"Stewie, 3:49…I thought that was a spoof when I read that, but it’s for real? I wonder if cat girl has written a similar one? “Found some valarium in next doors garden, slept through maths and science”. Mind you cats are very independent and wouldn’t be into that influencer role I guess?"

[goose]

"if you read what i posted earlier, i said kids can act and play as they like - thats fine. people (kids) all have different personalities. but there is no such things as ""being in the wrong body"". kids cannot be trans. there is no confusion. if a boy thinks he is a girl he should be put straight on why he isn't a girl and why that doesnt mean he has to change his personality in any way."

[Darlo Debs]

"CRASSUS Not unless common symptoms of the menopause are also a sore chest, hacking cough and a sore throat. Stop.being so..presumptuous you utter bell end"

[Darlo Debs]

"Are you a bit dense? Saying people should be allowed transition at an adult age if they so wish is entirely legal . Why would you think.we shouldn't be kind to kids who might be confused about their gender?. That isn't saying we should encourage them.to change it. Perhaps you'd prefer we put them.in a cell , attach electrodes to.their heads and then give em.a bit of a kicking on the way out."

[Crassus]

Sky high temperature and feeling like poop (and talking shite) - it’s the menopause Petal Not that us blokes would know about that of course …… *titter

[goose]

where have you said what exactly? you're saying we should accept that people can change gender - they cant. you're saying we should be kind to kids who think they are a different gender - they aren't. and they deffo lack the mental capacity to know enough about the subject.