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arsene york-hunt
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Woke watch
"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."
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Cabbage Savage
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Fo the Communist
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"ironsofcanada 6:52 Wed Jul 26 Well it's clear that with more people living longer and becoming ever more sick as they age, then the current system is not sustainable without either massive reform or higher taxes or possible both. What is also clear to me - and many others on here have expressed the same view - that a proper, grown-up debate is needed on the subject. Presently that debate gets immediately stunted by the emotional response that surrounds the subject for many. And in fairness, the NHS is a very dear institution based on lived experience so that's understandable. My personal view is also influenced by an experience I had in the states when my then young daughter became ill. We took her in and for a fee - not a huge one either - we got the check up we needed to ensure she had nothing more than a virus. That was money well spent and well earned by the service as I saw it. I guess my starting point would be that the service needs to be free to those who need it but other than that, everything should be on the table for open discussion. I wouldn't say that would be a particularly common viewpoint from someone 'on the left' - or at least not one that they'd admit to. Hardly revelatory either."
- Mike Oxsaw
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"Fo the Communist 2:15 Wed Jul 26 The 'One of us' analogy is interesting. The only other politician I felt came close to being 'One of us' was Michael Foot - and that's most definitely close but certainly not touching. Every other person in political life is projecting a sham about caring for society (even more so at election time); at least Farage had a plan and stuck to his guns (pretty sure there would have been attempts to buy him off, given the state of UK/EU politics) - open a tin of Farage and the contents actually match the ingredients on the label."
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Darlo Debs
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I think it’s now difficult to impossible to find a NHS dentist in UK. That’s what people tell me. The NHS sounds so bad these days it won’t be far behind when doctors treat private patients only…
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ironsofcanada
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"Fo the Communist 6:19 Wed Jul 26 A question looking for serious responses from those on the left. Do you think having both public and private services available undermines the NHS. Here that is the argument and is called a perjorative ""two-tiered"" system. I ask because our system has some serious challenges that are growing, for instance, in a city of 100,000 there are no family physicians accepting new patients. (We still use the physican we managed to grab in my mom's small town when we first moved back.) My wife works in the system and has to tell people to go the emergency for things like perscription renewals."
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Fo the Communist
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"joe royal 6:20 Wed Jul 26 On the plus side, I can watch The Usual Suspects again without feeling dirty."
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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"The NHS does cover way too many things. As far as mental health is concerned, far too much is spent on low level depression and stuff. A decent help-line could cope with all that. Far too little is spent on serious mental illness. I would suggest that what is saved on the former should be spent on the latter. I would add transgender treatment and fertility treatment to cosmetic surgery. I'd also urge a review of purchasing practices that insist on buying high-priced proprietary brands of drugs, dressings and devices instead of cheap but identical generic items. No brown envelopes passing hands there, I'm sure."
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"Oscar-winning actor Kevin Spacey has been found not guilty of nine sex offences at London's Southwark Crown Court Speaking afterwards, he said he was humbled by the outcome, and that there was a lot to process The Hollywood star, who is 64 today, cried in the dock as the verdicts were read out Prosecutors had told the jury the star had left the four complainants feeling “small, diminished and worthless” Spacey denied using his power as an A-lister to get people into bed, and described the allegations as a ""stab in the back"" The complainants, now in their 30s and 40s, are entitled to lifelong anonymity under the law"
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Fo the Communist
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- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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Darlo Debs 6:10 Wed Jul 26 'only a total tit would be arrogant enough to.think.it was cos I thought people don't like me.' Arrogant? How would that make me arrogant? You can't even speak English.
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Darlo Debs
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Mental Health and things that won't kill.you? Have you not seen the suicide rates in this country 2lf I think.its fairly safe to say your mental.health can.kill.you Blimey the things you read on .
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Darlo Debs
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Surf only a total tit would be arrogant enough to.think.it was cos I thought people don't like me. You are quite the comedian though probably unintentional I'll grant you that
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twoleftfeet
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"The NHS is broken, it’s a bottomless pit for money. It offers too much. Get rid of mental health, cosmetic surgery ( except in cancer cases ) and every other thing that won’t kill you. Concentrate on proper Illnesses and stop pandering to people."
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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"Debs 'Ark.at you thinking I give a toss what a random.loser on a football chat room.thinks of me in any way shop.or form.' The lady doth protest too much, methinks. After all, you did swan off the site in a massive sulk for about a year..."
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Darlo Debs
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Ark.at you thinking I give a toss what a random.loser on a football chat room.thinks of me in any way shop.or form. Bloody hilarious
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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"Debs Finally, nor have I suggested you are horrid because you support the NHS in its present form. I clearly stated it was a perfectly reasonable position. The reason I think you are horrid (your word, not mine) is down to your habitual lying and your omnipresent self-righteousness and assumption of victimhood. It's important you realise why I, and others, have such disdain for you."
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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"Debs Finally, nor have I suggested you are horrid because you support the NHS in its present form. I clearly stated it was a perfectly reasonable position. The reason I think you are horrid (your word, not mine) is down to your habitual lying and your omnipresent self-righteousness and assumption of victimhood. It's important you realise why I, and others, have such disdain for you."
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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"Debs You are doing it again. Nobody has mentioned the USA except you. Nor has anyone mentioned the elderly. I have certainly given no indication that I don't care about the elderly and I very much resent your clear implication that I don't. Incidentally, almost all of your beloved EU uses a system other than ours involving an element of medical insurance. Your self-righteousness is poisonous."
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Darlo Debs
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Surf what you seem.to.forget in all.this is that the elderly are probably the biggest users of the NHS most might even remember a time without it when affording a doctor appointment was beyond them The US insurance based healthcare system. leaves many without cover or only.partially covered and thousands go.bsnkrupt yearly trying g to.afford basic medicines If you'd be happy with that then maybe it's your values that are at odds with British ones...pretty sure you'd be welcome over there though. It'd get you away from.sll.the horrid people like me that want an NHS that belongs to.us all.
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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"Debs Goodness, gracious, me again! The adult population of the UK is about 55m. 22% of 55m (per lefty YouGov (100-78)) is about 11.5 million people. Nobody except you has mentioned the American system. Are you seriously disputing that 11.5 million people is not 'many, many, people' You really are a ghastly liar."