Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[Side of Ham]

"I always feel the women are picked by who wants to brave being in front of the camera or who looks good in front of the camera, rather than those who are actually knowledgable on football and there are I should think quite a few who are overlooked. That is because I think 'football fame' and all that comes with it is still relatively new in the womens game, so they are dealing with what is really sudden attention."

[stewie griffin]

"""There is literally no reason for women not to.commentate, present or be pundits on the mens game"" Correct, as long as they're capable. Gabby YORATH, Clare BALDING & Kelly DALGLISH are far better presenters than Gary LINEKER, for example. Eni ALUKO, for example, is a terrible pundit. Melissa REDDY is an excruciatingly terrible 'expert', for example. If they are there based on qualifications and competence, good luck to them. If they are not, then they shouldn't be there. It isn't at all complicated."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Darlo Debs 9:53 Thu Apr 18 If people start switching supplier/not renewing and list the reason as ""Women commentating in men's football"", they will soon be eased out of those commentary positions, whatever rules on equality apply. I trust that you won't be retorting with something along the lines of ""But they're not allowed to say that or use that as a reason to stop using the service!!!"""

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Darlo Debs 9:53 Thu Apr 18 If people start switching supplier/not renewing and list the reason as ""Women commentating in men's football"", they will soon be eased out of those commentary positions, whatever rules on equality apply. I trust that you won't be retorting with something along the lines of ""But they're not allowed to say that or use that as a reason to stop using the service!!!"""

[martinbritt_63]

"With all due respect Debs, I had the misfortune to be listening to the pre match show on Radio London while rustling up some chow, only to hear the daft bint ( didn't catch her name ) refer to a "" pundit "" as "" West Ham legend Rufus Brevett "" WTF - and we're supposed to take them seriously ?"

[martinbritt_63]

"With all due respect Debs, I had the misfortune to be listening to the pre match show on Radio London while rustling up some chow, only to hear the daft bint ( didn't catch her name ) refer to a "" pundit "" as "" West Ham legend Rufus Brevett "" WTF - and we're supposed to take them seriously ?"

[Darlo Debs]

"Luckily the people involved in sport in.tbe media stepped pit of the dark.ages, I look.forward to some of the men of WHO.to catch up.soon. There is literally no reason for women not to.commentate, present or be pundits on the mens game and similarly the reverse is true."

[twoleftfeet]

"Alex Scott having a moan today about “ toxic “ Arsenal when she was there. Stick to rug munching you overrated dyke and leave men’s football to the men,"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Darlo Debs 12:52 Thu Apr 18 You keep banging on about ""the men's game"". Why is that? Women are certainly not excluded from football as the BBC Scores & Fixtures pages clearly indicate every day. Why do women want to compete in ""the men's game"" at all when they now have their own infrastructure set up to evolve their game - with the added bonus of a media that didn't exist when ""the men's game"" was at a similar level. Just because it's called ""football"" and has rules & labels similar to those in ""the men's game"" in no way makes it an equivalent (sport/spectacle). In my personal opinion, women (in the media) who demand to get involved in ""the men's game"" are only doing so for the attention, fame & fortune such association brings. They would be far more useful within the sport using whatever skill/talent they have focussing on promoting ""the women's game""."

[Darlo Debs]

Fair point York

[Yorkammer]

"Top tips Debs. When the worlds most boring man enters a room, never make eye contact and, under no circumstances, engage in their tedious conversation!"

[violator]

"Its just the TV companies priming her, ready to inflict the poor viewing public of this idiot to our screens again, with her permanent sneer and hopeless ""punditry"""

[Darlo Debs]

"Well done for answering an entirely different question from.that which you were asked. You commented that not all groups, tribes etc needed to.be inclusive and I specifically asked you which aspect of the men's game should we as women not expect we can feel.included in. For clarification I mean on the same terms as you."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Indeed. The feelings of others are not MY responsibility; never were, never will be, no matter how hard people with these feelings try, time & time again and make it my responsibility.. I don't go out of my way to be offensive (nobody I've ever met is worth me putting in the effort), but I will often take a conversation off at a tangent if I find something amusing - and, of course, I have to say/post whatever it is in my mind if I want to share something that amuses ME - don't see how I can post/say something for ""approval"" before I post/say whatever it is I want to say. And, as I've said before, if anybody is taking offence from me then it's theft as I'm not making any offence available. If they want to BUY some offence from me then I'm more than happy to negotiate a legally binding, payment-up-front, no rebates or refunds, contract. However, it remains at all times their right to be offended, but it's NOT their right to limit/censor what I can say or do (we have laws to take care of that"

[only1billybonds]

"Debs. If football was such an 'unsafe' space for women, grounds wouldn't be attracting more women than ever before. Nothing wrong with women going to football, they have every right. All these cunts chirping on about how 'unsafe' its become are just seeking attention with their virtue signalling All Ox is saying is if anyone feels unsafe at football, stay away, it's their problem, not footballs or mens."

[Darlo Debs]

* game.

[Darlo Debs]

"Mike being a female who has been into football since I was about 8 I always considered it a safe space in the sense that i never felt threatened when I went to games., and there were plenty if other women there too. Football (and I sm.talking the men's fame here) should be inclusive. Not sure in which aspect you think it shouldn't be. Do you think women shouldn't go to games played by men? Come onto fans sites? Or is it just female commentators and pundits you feel.dont deserve to feel part if the sport?."

[joe royal]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13321649/amp/Failed-asylum-seeker-40-wore-sign-saying-migrants-not-criminals-raped-15-year-old-girl-deportation-Africa-blocked-gooder-cabin-crew.html?ico=amp_articleRelated_with_images Air France refuse to take illegal immigrant on plane. Said person goes on the rape.

[Mike Oxsaw]

When will these soppy fuckers realise that not every group (/sect/cult/tribe/race) within (UK) society has to be inclusive?

[twoleftfeet]

"I see that fuck with Eni Aluko is back and moaning again - "" Mens football not a safe space for women says Eni Aluko "" Then stick to womens football, sorted."

[twoleftfeet]

"That was such a big thing years ago, I was always getting some person offering to clean my windscreen. Haven't seen it for years. I guess they have just gone back to pick pocketing and general thieving."

[Lee Trundle]

*Common sense is going out the window.

[Lee Trundle]

"Those who link skin colour with people working at traffic lights are the racist ones. Commons sense is going out the window,"

[twoleftfeet]

"I read that as well ATBOG and couldn't find anything wrong with it. I think Spain is heading our way in terms of being offended by everything, I mean the Rubiales thing is just a massive overreaction and now this. Poor old Spain."

[ATBOG]

Looks like the idiot mind virus is running riot in Spain. Cannot for the life of me see what's offensive in this pundits comment. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68787596