NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[El Scorchio]

"No you're right. He looks better. He's looking more like some sort of Barry Sanders at the moment, making so much happen with the shocking protection and blocking he's getting, compared to playing in a powerhouse offense like the Chargers."

[Mr. Burns]

No Todd GURLEY though is he?

[El Scorchio]

"The Giants are fucking awful, but Saquon Barkley is an absolute beast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D4oRMI0uCQ"

[El Scorchio]

"Bit disingenuous and backhanded to say the only reason he's got such numbers is because the rest of the team is shit so therefore he throws it a lot. It's not like they are always having to sling it because they are coming from behind in games and have no option. I'd also say the reason they are pass first is because he's such a brilliant and accurate passer. Even if you're chucking it 50 times a game you don't rack up numbers like him in yardage, completions and touchdowns unless you're an exceptional, exceptional player. I think he deserves far more credit than that, and this is coming from someone who really doesn't like the Saints."

[crystal falace]

"That's kind of what I'm saying, Brees has had such bad defences for a lot of years that he has had to throw the ball far more than normal which is why he always racked up so many completions and yards."

[El Scorchio]

I'd say then that Brees has had to carry his team far more than someone like Brady then. Would the Saints go 11-5 with a backup quarterback? No they wouldn't. More like 5-11. Which frankly just elevates him further.

[Far Cough]

ag ag ag

[Takashi Miike]

has Brees ever deflated the ball?

[crystal falace]

"Brees is absolutely brilliant when he has everything just right, for example there's a very noticeable difference when he plays on the road vs his nice dome in NOLA. He's also been on some teams with some truly terrible defences meaning he has had to throw the ball a lot more just to keep them in games, I saw a stat this morning saying he's played in 3 less games than Brady but has thrown the ball 500 times more than him"

[Mr. Burns]

Grumpster 11:06 Tue Oct 9 He (Ingram) was suspended for four games. That was his first game back.

[El Scorchio]

"Obviously the guys plays in a dome in an absolute pass happy attack with a very clever offensive coach, but still, for an unheralded 'little guy' he's surpassed all expectations, taken a perennial losing team (as you say Grumpster- not even with loads of other talent around him) and made them very relevant and is up there in stats with the all time greats. I know the Chargers have had success with Rivers, but I wonder if they are sometimes kicking themselves."

[Grumpster]

"Annoyingly I used to back Ingram religiously for the Saints, but had virtually forgotten about him this season due to Kamara He been injured? Brees has been quality considering he's not always had a team around him like some of the other QB's have had."

[El Scorchio]

That Drew Brees has had an OK career hasn't he.

[Grumpster]

Sort out the trying to be too clever calls burnsy and you'll be a bloody tough but to crack. Unreal offence.

[Takashi Miike]

"norm, raiders have lost four out of five games mayfield's a clutch player, you can't teach that"

[zebthecat]

Well bugger me the Browns won again. Liked Odell Beckham's TD pass - perfect spiral and bang on target.

[Mr. Burns]

Rams 5-0!

[Far Cough]

"Having lost to the fucking Bills, a game we should have won, we only go and beat last year's Super Bowl winners, squeaky bum time at the end though Having a new offensive coordinator might have helped"

[normannomates]

how the LA RAIDERS doing?

[RBshorty]

Anyone knows what the QB's in next years draft are like.? Looks like Eli off to the retirement home. And the Giants are giving up the ghost on this season.

[Takashi Miike]

"that defence got you to the superbowl, i agree you treated smith bad. getting rid of him seemed to curse you ever since, still having bad luck with injuries tough game for the skins tomorrow but we battered them for three quarters two seasons ago so hopefully we turn up and play well"

[Grumpster]

Smith getting dropped for kaep half way through the season was a disgrace. Everyone wanked that kaep got us to the super bowl but with Smith we would have won it.

[Takashi Miike]

it reminds me of when your mob had that great defence and that utter cսnt kaepernick at qb

[Takashi Miike]

"it's totally the point :.) bortles was so poor earlier, of course there have been many worse to play the position but with that defence, its criminal they still rely on someone so shit"

[Grumpster]

"Throwing the ball when you're on the 2 yard line and have Gurley!!!!! Sometimes offensive coaches need to pull their heads from their arses. Clearly I've backed gurley, but really not the point and the reason they failed last year. Use the already hall of famer as much as possible."