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NFL (since 2016)
"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
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"""You have to at least give the pretence of running the ball once in a while"" please email that to the useless cսnt, scott 'son of norv' turner"
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"southbankbornnbred 11:24 Mon Nov 9 ""Buccs ran the ball just five times. That's nuts."" A bit of arrogance maybe, they had chances before the score got silly but Brady really tried to force the pass. But then again, the secondary is where you attack the Saints."
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"Proper defensive masterclass from the Saints - that'll teach all the ex-Patsies at the Buccs! Buccs ran the ball just five times. That's nuts. You have to at least give the pretence of running the ball once in a while, or the defense is going to swarm you all day. Particularly on second down. Which is what happened. Anyway, I can't talk: we have the worst coach in the league by a street mile and we're up against the Patsies tonight. Good to see the Steelers refuse to lose against the Cowgirls."
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"What you have there is about as complete a whuppin' as you are ever gonna see. Brady may still have a cannon but get in his face a little and the cannon can't hit the broad side of a barn. More seriously, almost perfect game for anyone not named Jared Cook on the Saints. Still will not want to see them in the playoffs."
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Proper shoot out between the mighty Fins and the Cards...very enjoyable game at the mo.
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"jay gruden was one of the worst play callers I've seen but this cսnt scott turner makes him look like bill walsh/joe gibbs. yet more nepotism will continue to fuck us, that and the poison cսnt snyder owning us"
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"Alex Smith, you cheer for him (and Rivera) but loves an interception. Looks likes this poised veteran until he doesn't. Have both the Washington D and Gibson, so he is frustrating."
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"some players stand out immediately. from the college film, to his polite manner on the phone call before being drafted and his play in the first eighteen months as a pro. terry mclaurin takes me back to the days of art monk, he has similar class"
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Re: NFL (since 2016)
Kyle Allen of the Washington.... has just suffered a terrible looking leg injury. The huge weirdness is that it looks like Alex Smith is going to replace him. Something good coming out of something terrible. Looks very grim for Allen. Broken leg at the very least.
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"Definitely - those of us who witnessed Vick at other teams will probably feel very differently! He was incredible during that Championship game season, though. What he was doing was so new to most defenses/coaches that he ran amok. His speed was incredible - and the speed of his decision-making."
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"Michael Vick was pretty unstoppable for that season they went to the NFC Championship game. With not a lot of help on offence and a below average defence beyond Brooking at linebacker and maybe a cornerback. But that was very early, I believe and defences figured things out (except the Saints of course) and they didn't go to the dance again under him. Pretty sure. Anyway fastest quarterback then for sure and still holds some 40 records. But no arm like Mahomes, Jackson and Murray."
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"Agree with you about Jackson, too. He one of the better read-option players, because he has an average arm. But he doesn't have a good or great arm and he's clearly not comfortable in the pocket. He seems to throw better on the move. You can constrict the field when he steps back, which means good defenses will always get on top of him. He's talented - and the best at what he does. He'll always put up good running numbers providing he stays fit. But what he does is limited."
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"Scorch, Totally agree, mate. It was interesting how some really limited read-option QBs, like Tebow and Griffin, made such big headlines when they entered the NFL - and yet achieved so very little. Those who had a decent arm, like Wilson and Newton, made the transition. But most of them fell by the wayside - often quite quickly. It's amazing how quickly defensive coaches adjust to these things. Somebody, Saban I think, worked out that you just send two defenders straight at the read-option 'mesh': one to take out the running back and one to take out the QB. If you hit the QB when he doesn't have the ball, it's not a problem, because there's not going to be a 'roughing' call on most read-option situations. End of fad. Seattle and Baltimore still run a few read-option plays per game, as do the Patsies with Newton. But nowhere near as many as you would find six or so years ago."
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Re: NFL (since 2016)
"It is/was a very interesting fad. Once defences caught on it really nullified things. I think because most running QBs are not the best pure passers, they can take the risk knowing they probably won't get gashed with deep passes too often. In addition, running should really just be a last resort rather than a regular option. Leads to injuries and also predictability. Dare I say it but I think Lamar Jackson is a little overrated/one trick pony. Great runner with good arm strength but not a great passer. A good defence will always beat a QB who isn't a great passer because they make him one dimensional. A pure drop back passing QB (if they can run a little and are good with play action then it's a bonus) will always be the best solution to keep defences guessing constantly."