NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[Joe C]

southbankbornnbred 6:58 Fri Jan 15 Bloke demads complete control too - so wonder how he'll feel about having to ship his squad to London a few times a year (if that ever goes ahead again)

[southbankbornnbred]

"What the Jags have just done feels a bit like giving Glenn Roeder the likes of Michael Carrick, Jermaine Defoe and Glen Johnson to coach. Inexperienced (head coach) manager handed top-class young talent. And that ended really well."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Just read that Saleh is the first Muslim head coach in the NFL. I knew he is a Muslim, but hadn't realised he'd be the first head coach. Not that I give two hoots about anybody's religion. I just hope he's good. Urban Meyer to Jacksonville is also a bigger risk than the NFL's cheerleading hacks seem to think. The consensus view seems to be that Trevor Lawrence is, potentially, a once in a generation QB talent and could transform his franchise. I'm not entirely convinced by that narrative, although he does look very good at college. But, assuming that is the case, I don't understand the idea of pulling a new head coach out of college football retirement (from 2018 onwards) - somebody who has also never coached in the professional ranks. Meyer has not even held a co-ordinator's position, or any coaching position, in the NFL. And the Jags want him to ensure Lawrence rips up the professional ranks. I'd have given Lawrence a gnarly old fucker of an NFL head coach. Somebody like Marv Lewis, who has 15 years HC experience. The kid needs people around him who know the league. Meyer is having to learn it all for the first time. The NFL has become a slightly nuts league for this sort of thing. Most major appointments don't align a team's needs with the candidate's skills. That's why HC turnover is so high. Lawrence needs the stability of a proven HC or OC, because the expectations for that kid are going to be through the roof. There's a reason gnarly fuckers like Belichick are gnarly fuckers."

[southbankbornnbred]

"If Saleh is yet another of the Jets' ""we've got two first-rounders, we'll use one each on offense and defense because that's 'fair'"" types...then he might as well plan his next DC coaching position in two or three years' time. He'll be yet another HC who will go 6-10, then 8-8, then 5-11 and then be sacked. He needs to recognise structural needs at the franchise."

[southbankbornnbred]

"There's talk of Mike LaFleur, 49ers passing coach, coming over to be OC at the Jets. That's a good, sensible move by Saleh as his first move. But with it, he needs to give LaFleur some influence over draft picks, too. I rate LaFleur, and not just because of his brother. It looks like he knows what an NFL offensive player should look like. Ryan, Mangina and Bowles did not - I don't know whether Saleh does. But LaFleur seems to have an understanding of offensive skills that goes beyond TIG. If he arrives, Saleh needs to give him real clout and not just make him grateful for the job. And by that I mean the sort of clout that allows him to say: ""Sorry, Rob, I'm demanding two offensive first rounders this year because this side hasn't moved the chains for five years."""

[southbankbornnbred]

"Tell him to get his ass over to New York, because we need all the help we can get. And our franchise (not our fans) could do with some London-style savvy and bluntness."

[Norflundon]

Hermit I'm not saying where he's going but I would say Dallas are a bit more Man Utd than Spurs....!

[Hermit Road]

If he is going to Dallas you need to give him some serious shit for joining the spurs of the NFL.

[Norflundon]

Yes he's done incredibly well from where he started playing lit theme league flag football in Barnet! Yes it's a really good move just hope he gets it over line

[southbankbornnbred]

"Norf, Haha! He's a fine man. I met him, albeit briefly, at an event way back when I was doing some work around sports issues. He's done incredibly well, as you know better than anybody. Hope he gets a good move if he's upping sticks."

[Norflundon]

Southbank Yes that is my annoying little brother

[southbankbornnbred]

"Rob Saleh: ""Hi, I'm Rob Saleh and I'm your new head coach. I'm going to completely transform this team and this franchise. I'm all about the D and I shout a lot from the sidelines. I'll look great on camera during games, because I'm passionate. DEFENSE! J-E-T-S, Jets!"" Jets fans: ""Meh. Join that queue over there, sunshine."""

[southbankbornnbred]

"I'm open-minded - I hope he does well because he's now our head coach. But I'm sceptical and I don't yet buy into his alleged quality. We were told that about Mangini, Ryan, and Bowles. Only one of them (Ryan) turned out to be a good head coach - and, even then, it was because he was a brilliant defensive mind (probably a better defensive coach than Saleh). He was absolutely clueless on offense. A good OC is now even more important for us than a good HC. Which is an odd position for a franchise to put itself in, but there you go. On a different note, I'm really looking forward to this weekend's games. It should be a proper play-off weekend."

[Takashi Miike]

"have faith, this bloke is on another level to the hapless cսnt he's replacing I read this article yesterday, it's pretty interesting and no doubt a few are on rob's shortlist....... https://thegamehaus.com/nfl/nfl-offensive-coordinator-candidates-for-the-2021-nfl-season/2021/01/11/"

[southbankbornnbred]

"These are the problems/failures which saw the Jets pass on Deshaun Watson in the draft a year before they took Sam Darnold. They have over-valued defense for 25+ years now. In that time, we've had one decent QB we drafted: Chad Pennington. The rest have been garbage (Sanchez, Smith, Petty, Clemens, Hackenberg etc) or unproven (Darnold). Our fans are fed up with Salehs. They come and go."

[Takashi Miike]

"SB, it was one of Jay Gruden's problems but Rivera didn't hesitate getting Jack Del Rio who transformed us in to a top five defence within a year"

[southbankbornnbred]

"I'm sorry to bang on, but this is why the Jets' appointment of Saleh doesn't really make sense: For it to work, he has to reform the offense. But to do that, we're requiring a new head coach to park his defensive expertise and give way to superior offensive knowledge in his first ever draft as an NFL head coach. Which he won't like, and he most likely won't want to do. We've been here many times before. He's the wrong guy at the right time for us, in my view. He's the right guy for many other franchises who are a good defense away from the play-offs etc."

[southbankbornnbred]

"TM - you're 100% right about that: the first thing the new HC is going to have to do is swallow some of his defensive pride and allow whoever is running the offense to be the most influential coach in the draft. Because the Jets need to get back to basics and re-learn how to move the chains. We've had multiple good defensive head coaches in recent years and it has taken us nowhere except backwards. They say defenses win championships, and that's probably right. But offense wins you matches and you need to win those to get to a Championship game. The Jets seemed to forget that some time around the year 2000. We've been shite offensively ever since. And in the meantime, with all due respect to him, we've had several Rob Salehs."

[Takashi Miike]

"SB, Saleh will do fine as long as he's secure in himself that he'll allow quality people to work with him, and not worry about them being a threat to his position in the franchise. that's a problem quite a few coaches make Norf, is he joining Quinn in Dallas?"

[Hermit Road]

Saleh to Philadelphia didn't seem likely. Laurie is on record as saying he wants to focus on the offence so a more offensive minded HC is on the cards I think

[southbankbornnbred]

"Norf - is your bro Aden Durde? If so, I met him!"

[Hermit Road]

Norflundon 11:04 Fri Jan 15 ........not yet.

[southbankbornnbred]

"I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but it feels a bit like the Jets appointed Steve McClaren in his early days as a manager. You know when everybody you respect keeps telling you what a great coach and assistant manager he was, how he gets on with his players and how he's tactically astute etc? You recall what was going on when Ferguson was trying to place McClaren at various good quality clubs (including ours)? And at the back of your mind, you're thinking: ""Yeah, let's wait and see. He looks a bit lost to me and I'm not sure he's going to transform much."" I feel like that with Saleh. Hope I'm as wrong as it's possible to be."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Two immediate tests for Saleh: A) Does he have a ""day one""ù plan to deal with the QB situation? Because we can't afford for that to drag on. B) He needs to swallow his defensive pride and take two offensive players with our two first round picks this year. If he fails to do that, we ain't going to the play-offs any time soon because we simply won't have the quality to score points. No point losing games 10-3 if you've already been losing them 23-3. This is why it was more important to appoint an offensive mind (not a fake like Gase)."

[southbankbornnbred]

"I'm a little underwhelmed by the Jets' appointment of Saleh. I'm absolutely certain he'll improve our defense, and I know he's a very good DC. I'm not questioning his defensive quality and he'd be a great fit for any franchise struggling on that side of the ball. But he's the wrong appointment at the right time for us. All of the Jets' biggest problems are on the offensive side of the ball and Saleh has absolutely no previous experience there. He'll no doubt make us defensively good/solid - like Rex Ryan did. But Ryan was clueless about offense and wasted draft picks on very poor choices. We can't afford for Saleh to do the same. We've also had other good defensive HCs in recent years - Bowles, Mancini and Edwards - and none of them built a competitive side because they didn't address our offensive issues. The Jets are a franchise that has forgotten how to score points in the NFL, and has been for 20 years. It says everything about the ownership that they've, once again, failed to recognise that. The choice this time had to be Bienirmy, Pederson or Daboll. But Saleh's our man now, so we'll get behind him. That's how it works. I hope he not only brings a good OC with him, but also empowers them with input over offensive draft picks (something Ryan failed to do when he spent a fortune trading up for Mark Sanchez). Hope Saleh does well. Not holding my breath."