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crystal falace
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"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
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Pats want to stack them picks. But are going to find it very hard to sell it too the fan base. Especially with the quality at the top of the draft this year. Also if the Pats do take a QB at the top end of the draft. That person walking into the building with the ghost of the GOAT weighing very heavily on their shoulder's. Thanks. But no thanks.!
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"That said, this is a strong draft for receivers. There will be some genuine talent available at WR as deep as the third round. Jets should take the best inside guard available, then a receiver."
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"I just want to see the Jets recognise that they need to bolster the trenches - most obviously on the offensive side. So a top-class talent at tackle (despite signing two in free agency), guard or centre would do us the world of good. If that means trading from #10 to take a pick further down the first round, and picking up a second rounder, then I'd have it. The Jets have to fill the ""boring but crucial roles"" this draft. They paid the price for overlooking it all last season."
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"shorty, I heard a pundit on some podcast say that the patriots front office like a deal and may be tempted stacking future picks. brissett could do a job for a year. also weird theories about harbaugh trading herbert, and him taking mccarthy. think that's very doubtful but strange things happen üòÇ"
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"Far Cough 3:01 Thu Apr 25 there's a few teams looking for one (raiders, broncos). it's whether you can get the chargers to move. I think your coach likes Maye, but the Patriots are the problem as im sure they'll also select one. JJ Mccarthy is a good option if still there at five"
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Nabers. But I'm happy with any of them three WR. Expect a phone call to go into the Pats at No3 if Maye is still on the board. But we ain't selling the ranch too get it. Something I can see the Vikings doing. But with 4QB's. 3WR and Joe Alt all going in the top 8. Can see some silly horse trading going on this evening.
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"no, not overly bothered about the nails. just think his ego could be a bit fragile, and I'm not convinced he could lead a locker room. I don't have any of those worries with daniels, mccarthy or maye. I like maye, but I think the other two could be ready earlier. I think maye could benefit from a year developing and we haven't got that"
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"You wouldn't take Williams, Miike? Why not? The nails etc? Must say I'm enjoying the fact we don't know who it'll be of the two (although I mean Daniels or Maye!)."
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Hope the Vikes pick a QB or trade for one?
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"Shorty, I'm expecting Harrison to end up in Arizona, so who are you taking? Nabers or Odunze?"
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"I want Jayden Daniels or JJ Mccarthy at 2. I think we'll get Jayden, then we'll try and move back in to the first for a Tackle, possibly Mims from Georgia. My worst nightmare is the Bears changing their minds and targeting someone else. Williams is one distraction we don't need"
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Morning folks. Draft Day is upon us once again. Question are. Where are you picking.? Who would you like.? Who will you get.? Will this Draft be a success for your team.? GO GMEN.!
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You are right southbank especially about the slow reads. The killer stat is 113 sacks vs 23 TDs.
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"Zeb, Yeah, he's really not that good! Too hesitant after the snap and doesn't make his reads quickly enough. Like Geno Smith, he had talent when we drafted him. But, like Geno (and Sanchez, and Darnold etc), we didn't exactly coach him well. The Jets should largely give up trying to draft high-pick QBs. Under these owners we are utterly shite at it. They don't know how to coach it, or manage the process of appointing those who can coach it. Better for us to spend well in free agency for an established QB, and draft the weapons around him."
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WIlson TD: 23 Int: 25 Rtg: 73.2 Porous O line or not those stats are pretty grim.
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"no argument with moving him on, the t-shirt shit couldn't be cringier or distateful. shows how poor the leadership is from the HC position to allow such behaviour"
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"I suspect the rest of the squad went too far too quickly. He was an inexperienced rookie, after all. But he made bad decisions when he got to New York, got off on the wrong foot and never recovered the confidence of people at the club. Hence, cut him loose. As always, the Jets made mistakes in handling it."
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"It all went to his head, TM, and reportedly he didn't work hard enough to improve despite everything that experienced pros were telling him. The situation was made worse by the fact that he was stand-offish. Whereas his back-up was properly ""in""ù the squad and got on with everybody. It's a team game. Added to that, there was all that stuff off the pitch about Wilson's sex life. His team-mates found him to be a distraction who wasn't one of them and wasn't focused on the battle. And that was his rookie season. I don't know the full details. But my guess is that if you've got a dozen or more of your own team/mates digging you out""¶then you probably are doing something wrong. Hence, the legend of ""Mike Fucking White""ù was born!"
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"over confident or not, that sounds like a terrible locker room digging out a young player like that"
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"Wilson has some talent, btw. He needs to grow up a bit - there's still time - and he must knuckle down and work a lot harder. He needed a new start away from New York after alienating too many teammates. Like so many high-pick QBs, he should never have started from Day 1. Needed to learn on the sidelines for a couple of years and grow mentally with it. Instead, he was straight into the line-up and limelight."
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"Blimey - the Jets found somebody to take Zach Wilson off us in return for a draft pick. Admittedly, it's a Rnd 6 pick from Denver. I thought we ""might""ù get a 5th rounder for him. With Rodgers coming back, Wilson was never going to sit on our bench for another season - and he went drastically backwards last year. Another QB bust in Gotham, despite some initial talent. It's almost as though the franchise doesn't know how to choose and develop QBs. Wilson did not help himself, though. An over-confident snowflake who never grew up in New York, and who alienated his own team-mates to the point where they wore t-shirts with the name of Wilson's back-up on them!"
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a fella who's a regular guest on a youtube channel I watch said today that your centre connor mcgovern may resign (think he was injured last season). he's based in colorado and knows him from his denver days also saw this earlier...... https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jets-on-hand-to-watch-uconn-ol-christian-haynes-at-pro-day/ar-BB1kj7IH
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"That all sounds extremely sensible to me, TM. Which is why it probably won't happen. When were the Jets ever sensible?!"
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"if that's what they've decided, I think an interior lineman at ten is too early. there's a few elite tackles but its hard benching one for a year. I think you'd be better off trading with seattle (who like penix jr) and getting an extra couple of picks and taking fautanu (g) or barton (c) at 16."
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"There's always a lot of noise and puffwaffle around these issues ahead of any draft, but it ""sounds"" like Joe Douglas (the GM) may have finally seized the ground and won the discussion over the Jets' first-round pick. Woody wanted a top-level receiver. Saleh wanted a pass rusher/DL. Rodgers wanted a top-level receiver. Douglas wanted an OL or to trade for picks. Saleh got his defensive talent, but in free agency - when the Jets moved for Reddick from Philly. So that shut him up. Woody and Rodgers were told the best WRs would probably have gone by the #10 pick - and were reminded that we already have Garrett Wilson, Lazard and Mike Williams. So Douglas held firm and it looks like we'll take a high-end lineman, or trade out to a team seeking a QB or WR. I hope this turns out to be the case. Douglas is the calm head in that meeting room. He wants to build teams and not overspend (Saleh used to feel the same way, but presumably is panicking because he needs a winning season or he's out). Gut feeling: Jets will see if a high-class lineman (maybe a guard or centre) is available at #10 - or will trade to a QB hungry side and slide down into the #20s and pick up a Rnd 2 and other picks with it. But let's see: Woody might still pull rank."
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