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Manchester Airport incident
"We're gonna have a British George Floyd now innit. The BLM mob are gonna be all over this. Expect a load of shoe shops to be looted as a ""protest"". This country's gone to the fucking dogs."
- SurfaceAgentX2Zero
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"Nobody, least of all politicians, will say this, but a degree of violence IS absolutely necessary if you want a protest to succeed. Without it, politicians will take not a blind bit of notice. The Countryside Alliance put over a million entirely peaceful Barbour-clad citizens on to the streets of London and acheived nothing. I don't want anyone hurt, but a bit of police-station burning does no harm at all in emphasising the sincerity of a cause."
- Hammer and Pickle
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"I'll respect you if you stop misrepresenting my posts as a defence of criminal activity. You certainly ignore that when it happens all the time, so when you make a legitimate point about your anger about tax money not being spent properly, don't expect me to give you a cookie. Now you deal with nonsense like this ""These riots are happening because folk have got the hump about not being listened to regarding legitimate concerns about immigration and certain ethnic groups not integrating.""ù ""¶ in an effective manner and I'll respect you."
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"Fauxstralian wrote... ""How about the scum doing Nazi salutes?"" This is genuine question as I really don't know the answer. Have you been as worked up and posting on here about Nazi salutes and anti-semitism on the Palestine protests? Or are you only speaking up when you see the white working class do it? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13400239/Australian-National-University-Pro-Palestine-students-allegedly-perform-Nazi-salutes-impersonate-Hitler-meeting.html"
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"Not saying i agree BUT............ Enoch Powel when asked in a 1977 interview ""what do you see as the likely prospect now? Still the 'River Tiber foaming with blood'?"": My prospect is that, politicians of all parties will say ""Well Enoch Powell is right, we don't say that in public but we know it in private, Enoch Powell is right and it will no doubt develop as he says. But it's better for us to do nothing now, and let it happen perhaps after our time, than to seize the many poisonous nettles which we would have to seize if we were at this stage going to attempt to avert the outcome."" So let it go on until a third of Central London, a third of Birmingham, Wolverhampton, are coloured, until the Civil War comes, let it go on. We won't be blamed, we'll either have gone or we'll slip out from under somehow."
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solidbond 12:10 Sat Aug 3 Thanks for confirming to the whole site your level of debating ability. Care to add in an explanation of how your vitriolic hatred for all things ZION will help bring peace to the world?
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"Depends, sven son. Do you also sneer at the thousands of hew hating Nazi scum who've paraded through the streets of our capital city- completely unchallenged by police - while chanting slogans aligned with Hitlers plans for the eradication of Jews, and the death of the 7.2 million of them Israel? I don't recall you doing so. So if not, no you can't. Or you can, you'd just be a massively duplicitous wanker, like most others on your team."
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"Has anyone been called knuckle draggers? Am I allowed to sneer at people who attack mosques, police & property? How about the scum doing Nazi salutes? Any genuine protest is being hijacked by racists & opportunists"
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"""However, they do have a grievance and the sneering is a way of people signalling their social superiority to others. They call them knuckle draggers to let people know they themselves are more sophisticated. It's snobbery, simple as that."" There's plenty of those type on this site, the open borders Jockstralian communist being a prime example"
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"Pickle, you say that being respectful of each other is a good starting point, but you are perhaps the poster on here with the least respect for people who have other opinions that you don't share. Time and time again when a half decent argument is put your way, you ignore the points in question and resort to tiresome stereotypes."
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"Don't necessarily disagree with any of the commentary or thought process, wils, but in the end its self defeating and will do nothing to improve things. It just enables the sneering types to claim they were right all along. That's why it is important to call it out as wrong. But to your broader point - its exactly right... and the question remains as to why so many working class people, traditionally the ground for the left, are now considered to be 'far right'. It's been amusing to watch the lefts pathological hatred of the working class over many years, and it continues to get worse."
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"These riots are happening because folk have got the hump about not being listened to regarding legitimate concerns about immigration and certain ethnic groups not integrating. Anger is an energy, and this is what happens when a pressure cooker goes off. I'm not condoning the violence, but I'm pleased to see that there is still a bit of spirit in people. You can only be mugged off so often. Labelling ordinary people ""the far right"" isn't going to help either. Nobody's falling for that bollocks anymore."
- Hammer and Pickle
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"Swept away? You did you really have to sell up and move to the suburbs for that central heating, double-glazed windows and a parking space?"
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"When both Labour and the Conservatives look utter cunts in their left if centre nonsense you know the root causes are going to be very hard to deal with. The Welsh/English,Rawandan,BBC, Dr Who, black, non immigrant stabbing, murdering little children cսnt is just one of so many triggers that will keep coming."
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"Said it before and I'll say it again. You know nothing about life in the UK, you speak from a position of complete ignorance. Get yaself over to the Huw Edwards thread, there's a sex pest could do with your support."
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"stewie griffin I can agree with most of that. I would add that the lack of connection in the target of the protests in Sunderland with what happened in Southport is a little unfair. Southport has been the trigger, but the grievance driving the protests are the broader issues you outlined further on in your post. My take is that much of the violence has been senseless and random, and many of the people involved are not the brightest. The reliance on alcohol drinking with pictures of them sitting around crates of cider makes them look genuinely pathetic. The cans are held like comforters, it makes them look like babies nursing their milk bottles. However, they do have a grievance and the sneering is a way of people signalling their social superiority to others. They call them knuckle draggers to let people know they themselves are more sophisticated. It's snobbery, simple as that. At this point the two-tier policing is clear as day. It's gaslighting to argue otherwise. And these communities the protestors are drawn from will be swept away by mass immigration same as ours was in the East End. So as senseless, stupid and self defeating their actions were last night, I find myself standing alongside them. At least in their cause if not their actions."
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"Good example smarty. Normal, everyday people have had the fabric of their towns & cities completely changed without getting a say in any of it. And they're fucking pissed about it. Successive governments have imported the dregs of the 3rd world and then ask for tolerance when they bring their 3rd world shit with them. Meanwhile worms like Pickle are desperate to excuse the rapes, the violent crimes, the tax payer funded lifestyle and the grooming gangs."
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"If you are looking for an excuse, even people being respectful of each other and each other's different culture will be an opportunity to demonstrate your outrage by behaving like a cսnt and voting Reform."
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"If you want to see in real time the visual decline/change of a neighbourhood due to immigration then Google Longfellow Street in Liverpool, which is near where my brother lives. Start on street view at the very bottom end then work your way up. It starts off 15 years ago then switches to 2 years ago."
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"I think the point, commie, is that in all likelihood these people in the North East are somewhat far right. Minimally islamophobic. Hard to come to any other conclusion given, as I said, this atrocity was carried out by a rwandan-welsh, bbc gentleman. With no connection to Sunderland, hartlepool or islam. There's little harm in calling it what it is. That apart, they're no more or less stupid or dangerous than the people who tore down historical monuments and burned things to the ground a few years ago in response to a death that occurred thousands of miles away. What absolutely needs to be explained is why on that occasion - and others recently in Leeds and Rochdale - the response was to stand by, and take the knee in solidarity with them, and on this occasion the response is to aggressively confront them. And for a prime minister to cause further unrest with provocative messages. He is the agent provocateur you're looking for in last nights trouble, for the record."
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"Comma, you are talking bollox. Do you really believe that every single one of these protesters/rioters were spurred on by Robionson and his like? Do you not think that people are genuinely angry with the way some sections of society are treated/policed?"
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Whether or not the people on the street in the North East are far right the fact is that they have been played like a Stradivarius by right wing agents provocateurs. At the moment these provocations focus on Muslims and their mosques but history teaches us that if these protests gain traction other targets will also be focussed on. It is so much easier to spread a lie and lead the gullible by the nose these days.
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Goose Agreed. I would add different scandals and attacks over the last 15 or so years have always been downplayed by the media and politicians which have made people frustrated. Its all stronger together nonsense rather then addressing the core issue of there being a group of people from a certain religion (not all of them) who do not like our way of life in this country.