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"We're gonna have a British George Floyd now innit. The BLM mob are gonna be all over this. Expect a load of shoe shops to be looted as a ""protest"". This country's gone to the fucking dogs."
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"Hermit Road 1:24 Tue Aug 6 Re: Manchester Airport incident __ Good post. I would also add to that the sham that is the First Past the Post electoral system, which is hugely skewed in favour of the Labour and the Conservative parties. On 4 July, Reform UK received 4 million votes and returned five MPs. The Liberal Democrats received fewer votes and returned 72 MPs. Labour achieved 33.7% of the vote and returned two-thirds of the MPs. It is simply farcical and undemocratic. But the people running the country don't care one iota about democracy."
- RootsRadical
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"The Manchester airport attackers were released on bail and allowed to spread misinformation that caused a protest outside a police station by young Muslim men threatening violence if their demands weren't met. There's also been many incidences of extremist preaching, chants and symbolism on the pro Palestinian marches and criminal damage of Jewish / Israeli property and associates, harassment and anti semitic attacks but the police stood off or claimed they never saw it. Of those that were charged I don't think any were actually convicted."
- Hammer and Pickle
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"If you want a simplistic and totally discredited causal link between migration and crime of all kinds as a hill to die on, who am I to tell you what to think and do. Go on - make a cսnt of yourself in public. See if I care."
- Mike Oxsaw
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"Seems that some posters are still trying to convince others that ""their"" party's shit don't smell. Labour have managed to do in 2 weeks what took the Tories over 15 years. In reality. ""Their"" party couldn't give a flying fuck about them, yet I'm sure the denial politics will continue from the usual suspects."
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"Things like immigration are supposed to be sorted out at the ballot box. The ballot box is where steam is let off in a democracy and people re able to have their views listened to. So let's look. Starting in 2005 when Blair promised to curb immigration (I know it's mad but he ran on it), we had elections in 2010, 2015, 2017, 2019 and 2024, where the election winners promised to curb it. What are voters supposed to do when they consistently vote for something they are promised and not only is the promised not carried through, but the thing that were promised would be limited is actually escalated. Then you have the two tiered approach to dealing with the anger at being ignored at the ballot box. There are foreign rapists in this country who are given either no prison time or months. People throwing bins in Sunderland have been told they'll go to prison for years and are being kept on remand purely because their skin colour and ethnicity allows the ruling classes to feel virtuous about punishing them."
- WHU(Exeter)
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"""Not sure what any of that word salad means, to be honest"" I love the way he's thrown 'complex' into the argument, so if any of us fail to understand his incoherent ramblings, it's because it's all COMPLEX. My plan B Pickle would be this; That from immediate effect, people in this country with reasonable concerns, should not have their voices shut down, and feel unlistened to, because of numerous patronising and sanctimonious idiots like you. That would be a start."
- Hammer and Pickle
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"I see. A couple of questions if you don't mind. Does this solution involve any kind of longer term policy for all those who might want to embody some rage as a result? You know, family members, friends and the like? Also, how do you know you have the right individual as you round them up and put them in that field?"
- Lee Trundle
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"""how about all of you politically obsessed weirdos and extremists of all kinds go find a field, kill each other, and let the rest of us get on with our lives."" ↑↑↑ THIS ↑↑↑"
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"Not sure what any of that word salad means, to be honest. Phillips is in writing tacitly endorsing a violent mob. She should be gone by lunchtime. She won't be, of course. But to address some of your projections. I don't have a problem with Muslims. At all in fact. I have a problem with Muslim gangs. And gangs of stabby white youths. And gangs of stabby black youths. And gangs of sports direct clad imbeciles smashing things up. And gangs of people who align with Hitler chanting for the death of over 7 million Jews every weekend. I'm an equal opportunity hater, to be frank. And as I mentioned yesterday, more people played village cricket this weekend than were involved in any of this. So if you'd like a Plan B - how about all of you politically obsessed weirdos and extremists of all kinds go find a field, kill each other, and let the rest of us get on with our lives."
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"any of you know this fella , genius - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q_2VNTUjbk"
- Hammer and Pickle
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"Actually, it's more there not being exactly many prominent hard-line Muslim movers ito come down hard on in this case. Anyway, the public concern is not your beef with Muslims and foreigners, and the understanding of the complex social and economic nature of the Northern grooming problem is much better and more general than suits you. People want to conduct their affairs unmolested by violence or being associated by others with violence and all that Starmer has to do is provide the conditions for that. I suggest you stop rattling your cage and come up with a plan B because an opposition that is seen to support public unrest and disorder never does well in the U.K."
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""" It will come down just as hard on any Islamist terror organisations as it will on the racist anti-Muslim mobs"" they might try to backpedal into something now - but the absolute clusterfuck of Jess Phillips last night & the fact that Starmer & Cooper have explicitly said the exact opposite means that anyone with a functioning braincell won't listen. On a side note, Liz TRUSS tearing Phillips a new arsehole was simultaneously spectacular & concerning in equal measure."
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"Like I said, Do those in authority ever learn anything? The internet was designed from the ground up to physically survive nuclear attacks on multiple sites and still retain connectivity. ISPs were introduced by the authorities to introduce some level of control (not management) but they are not needed, technically. In fact, direct connection to the internet is not even required these days to get a message from one end of the country to the other; can be done even without a mobile phone connection, too, albeit this generally takes a couple of hours rather than a few seconds and there's no record of such message ever being sent or received if deleted correctly once read (& passed on). You can do this yourself if you don't believe me; if you can see the WiFi of two other modems which are not your own, just give them access to yours and/or vice versa then have all three modems physically disconnected from the internet (either do it yourself or wait for your ISP to be instructed to do so (under threat of losing it's licence)). Your neighbours will still be able to exchange messages with each other via your modem. A long enough ""daisy-chain"" of such connections will enable a message to get from Land's End to John O'Groats, completely shielded from prying eyes. This is not an incitement to violence, it's simply pointing out what the internet was designed to do. Wikipedia probably explains it better, though. Oh, and as for the prosecutions, nailed on it'll be same/next day for any white male involved here, but for anybody else they'll be let out on bail to await a spare slot in their local court's calendar (then forgotten about)."
- Hammer and Pickle
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"Labour has bean presented with a wonderful opportunity to play the role of the form law-and-order government here. It will come down just as hard on any Islamist terror organisations as it will on the racist anti-Muslim mobs, and it will actively support Israel in the looming showdown with Hizbollah. If Starmer was a Central European politician, I'd have the U.K. secret services doing his bidding as one of the main movers behind the riots. In this case, I'm very much keeping an open mind."
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Watch now while the prosecute anyone who said anything bad on social media and start shutting down any accounts that hold them to account. Enforcement of facial recognition for the whiteys but wearing a burka is okay.
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Charging those rioting is the equivalent of giving a sticking plaster to a man suffering a heart attack. Do those in authority ever learn anything?
- WHU(Exeter)
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"They are going down this line, as they lost voters over Gaza. They may need those voters back in the next election. Snide behaviour by many in their party who didn't have the courage of their convictions in the run up to the election."
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"I'm guessing this unrest will die down eventually but the lack of trust in the old bill and establishment won't. Also, the radical Islamists have been empowered and there will be fresh ongoing tension between the wider Muslim communities and the rest of the population. On a brighter note, it's now plain for all to see what an absolute pair of lying cowardly cunts Starmer and Cooper are, hopefully, their comments and behaviour will be long remembered."
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"Either the prisons are full and the authorities are having to turf out old lags to make way for the newly charged or they are not and there's plenty of room to accommodate those being charged with dissatisfaction in the authorities. Can't be both, so which is it? Oh, and as for ""two-tier policing"", I suspect that some focus group somewhere has suggested that ""Whoever wins the hearts & minds of (the influencers & decision makers in) the immigrant communities will gain and retain political power long enough to feather their nests."
- RootsRadical
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"It's all becoming very big brother now. Starmer & Cooper are threatening and intimidating those online now using broad charge of ""whipping up hatred"" That could mean anything from organising a riot to whatever they want to term as hate speech. Be careful out there folks. Seems like a new version of the SPG is being rolled out too and they are going after dissenters same way they did the miners and Football Hooligans. Also pledging millions to protect Muslim communities who were busy attacking a pub in Birmingham (again) tonight. https://x.com/jomickane/status/1820545051770192253?t=SHG6vM9-95m9Q4VkuEaZOQ&s=19"
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"Jaan, it can be hard to tell sometimes in writing, but I thought you were clearly being sarcastic."
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