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"We're gonna have a British George Floyd now innit. The BLM mob are gonna be all over this. Expect a load of shoe shops to be looted as a ""protest"". This country's gone to the fucking dogs."
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"""The white British population is in demographic decline. They are not having enough children, while immigrants and ethnic minorities have lots of children. Combined with mass immigration of 600,000-700,000 a year, most British cities now look unrecognisable. White Britons are already a minority in London and other major cities and will become a minority in the country itself within our lifetimes. It's important to understand that Britain isn't like America. Until very, very recently (2001) white British people made up nearly 90% of the population. Britain is not and has never been a ""nation of immigrants"". But it will be soon. Despite the fact that the British people voted against this at every opportunity. They voted against it in 2010, 2015, 2016 (Brexit), 2017 and 2019 when the people they elected promised to stop mass immigration and end illegal immigration. At the last election, they gave up on voting for the Conservatives and either voted for Nigel Farage's anti-immigration Reform Party or didn't vote at all, hence the lowest turnout for a century. This is one of the reasons you see increasing levels of censorship and thought policing in the UK. As people begin to express dissent against what is happening, maintaining this state of affairs requires more and more suppression. This is one of the reasons they are going after @elonmusk - he has created a platform where we can see that the Emperor is naked with our own eyes."" __ Well put stewie. I would also add that many white British working/ middle class folk have been put off from having children due to the conditions caused by 27 years and counting on mass, uncontrolled immigration policies. That is, policies that ramp up the population (a population explosion that Farage talks about and cannot be denied) without the sufficient investment in housing stock and infrastructure to go with it, meaning house prices have increased massively as demand outstrips supply, and wages has been suppressed as cheap foreign labour suppresses natural wage growth. Meanwhile, immigrants from certain backgrounds (South Asian Muslim, sub-saharan African) exploit the system, live in social housing and have multiple children usually paid for by the taxes of taxpayers (which Labour will soon be ramping up to even higher levels). Is it any wonder many white Brits have given up on the idea of home ownership and raising families. And is it any wonder folk are left to believe 27 years and counting of mass, uncontrolled immigration policies is a deliberate, globalist agenda to change the demographics of the UK forever. It is truly a travesty and a tragedy what the 'elites' are inflicting on the country."
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"See Thickle making his usual excuses for the sickening behaviour of the grooming gangs,just as bad as goose with the peado priests of the Vatican"
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"Watch this Guy drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough because of the blacks and browns, fantastically taken down by Tom Swarbrick https://youtu.be/0q_2VNTUjbk?si=_pbiihY0MFlVd_Ya"
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"Mike, the vast majority of people causing these riots are ignorant thugs that have zero clue about anything. Thick idiots that get caught up in the moment"
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"I've been a long time reader/listener to both Murray and KK for a few years now and Griff is right, they, especially Murray predicted years ago that we would get to where we are today, and beyond. Thing is, if these two saw it coming then plenty of government ministers,senior civil servants and cabinet members must also have known where we were heading. What's gone on in the past couple of decades is a betrayal of the British people, especially the working class. We are where we are, there is no desire to address and improve things from either of the main parties and all we'll see is more of the recent disturbances and the difference in how people are policed according to their ethnicity."
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stewie griffin 11:51 Wed Aug 7 Not sure if I should be worried about what Kisin has said; my post of 11:55 had been sat on my computer for about 2/3 days on account of the site's comms issues. Won't be long before some twat tries to label me as far-right for having the audacity to consider/suggest a different approach to the problem or that what is being presented as the problem is not even close to the true problem..
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"The UK public - at least those who could be arsed to vote on their concerns - have clearly expressed those concerns over 3 general elections based on what was published in party manifestos and after each of those 3 votes (4 if you roll in the EU referendum) the concerns have simply been ""back-burnered"" or even publicly ignored/sneered at. How many more times does this need to happen before the penny drops and you realise the route through the ballot box is clearly not the route to the changes being sought? I don't condone this violence mainly because, it seems to me, the demonstrators are attacking the immigrants here that are actually making an effort to be a positive contribution to the UK - for that alone they rightly deserve being labelled ""Thick"", whatever ""wing"" people need them to belong to. I actually don't condone the use of any violence in modern society to achieve change, to be honest - that is the quickest path to a ""Survival of the Thickest"" society. So, what is the solution? Seems that the democracy we have offers no alternative...except that those empowered with the stewardship of the - MY - country actually fully take on board and resolve the fundamental concern issues that got them into power. If THEY steadfastly and repeatedly refuse - or are not allowed - to do that, then they, themselves are inviting the public to seek out a more dramatic path to getting those concerns addressed."
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"I answered your initial calm and reasoned question. You then got hysterical and quoted a string of examples that your chosen media sources have fed you. But, you asked, and you shall receive - see below Kisin's most recent thoughts. As ever, pretty calm and measured. Let me know when you're done reading - as I have some questions for you. The right wing cope for what's happening in Britain is to go on about Keir Starmer. The left wing cope for what's happening is to blame the ""far right"". The reality is much, much worse. This has nothing to do with the current government and a few racist idiots kicking off are the least of our worries. Yes, the violent criminals should be prosecuted and given harsh sentences. And yes, Starmer and senior police officers have handled this badly. But the fundamentals of this situation are inescapable. Britain has a stagnant economy that relies on cheap foreign labour and a population that is utterly fed up of mass immigration. We have an open border. No that's not an exaggeration. When I came to Britain in 1996, net *legal* immigration was around 55k a year. That's the number of people who come here *illegally* every year now. We have a Muslim population, which like any large group is made up of all sorts of people. Most of them are decent and law abiding. But as a population the Muslim community has not integrated: more British Muslims joined ISIS and Al Nusra than the British army, per the Guardian and the New York Times. Google it. The Equalities Act introduced ""protected characteristics"" which effectively made members of certain racial, ethnic and religious groups entitled to special treatment. Partly as a result of this and partly due to the broader introduction of the idea of ""diversity and inclusion"", the police, social workers and all manner of government officials turned a blind eye to crimes committed by particular racial and ethnic groups. A good example would be so-called ""grooming gangs"" which are groups comprised of predominantly Pakistani and Bangladeshi men who targeted white and Sikh girls for gang rape. According to estimates there were several hundred thousand victims. These crimes have gone on for over 40 and continue to happen today. The white British population is in demographic decline. They are not having enough children, while immigrants and ethnic minorities have lots of children. Combined with mass immigration of 600,000-700,000 a year, most British cities now look unrecognisable. White Britons are already a minority in London and other major cities and will become a minority in the country itself within our lifetimes. It's important to understand that Britain isn't like America. Until very, very recently (2001) white British people made up nearly 90% of the population. Britain is not and has never been a ""nation of immigrants"". But it will be soon. Despite the fact that the British people voted against this at every opportunity. They voted against it in 2010, 2015, 2016 (Brexit), 2017 and 2019 when the people they elected promised to stop mass immigration and end illegal immigration. At the last election, they gave up on voting for the Conservatives and either voted for Nigel Farage's anti-immigration Reform Party or didn't vote at all, hence the lowest turnout for a century. This is one of the reasons you see increasing levels of censorship and thought policing in the UK. As people begin to express dissent against what is happening, maintaining this state of affairs requires more and more suppression. This is one of the reasons they are going after @elonmusk - he has created a platform where we can see that the Emperor is naked with our own eyes. The riots you are seeing have many underlying causes. Many of the people who are burning things down and looting shops are just violent thugs looking for a cheap thrill. The authorities will throw the book at them which they have to do. But what they won't do is address the cause of the tensions which are bubbling away under the surface. They will give the can another big kick down the road. I hope this particular flare up of violence can be calmed but you're kidding yourself if you think that will be the end of it."
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"Yeah he's got some neck preaching to us as to where to put or not to put the dinghy people where his so called adopted country, routinely plants their dinghy people on Christmas Island or some such island."
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"that's a very strange pivot to go from this: ""Any valid points that the protestors have are being lost in the maelsrom of attacks on mosques (that is an attack on ALL Muslims ) , attacking police and property, looting shops and trying to burn down an occupied hotel Have said before there is no voice explaining the issues .... just cunts like WEIRD Elon Musk yapping from the other side of the world"" to that post. Are you mentally unhinged?"
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"Perhaps you can quote one of your voices on why mosques are being attacked, shops looted and occupied hotels set on fire Or an intellectual justification for Nazi salutes in Whitehall"
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"stick them on the Bibby Stockholm or send to Rwanda why we it gets sorted . also do the same with any Muslim who has done similar . Alternatively start a fight club league , Big match today White Extremists v Muslim Extremists , proper top of the table clash . lets sort this man to man , every time this shit starts its fucking idiots whether white guys , Black lives matter , Muslims , Jews etc , lets make money of it have a fight and televise ,pump back into the Taxes and get the roads sorted they ain't getting done now that budgets gone after this shambles ."
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"""Have said before there is no voice explaining the issues"" categorically untrue. Konstantin Kisin does, and continues to do, an excellent job of explaining the issues. Douglas Murray also. Both wrote books several years ago explaining that this moment would come. Every single thing they said has been proven to be right. And to be fair, there are prominent figures in the Muslim community such as Sohail Ahmed who speak very well on it. You'd be absolutely right to say there's no voice on the BBC or in the Guardian explaining the issues."
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"I see that the BBC have created the perfect ""Far Right""* poster boy. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news). Presumably, they have a reason for plastering up his mugshot other than him apparently (we only have their word for it) him being the first to be incarcerated this time around for expressing his political views rather too enthusiastically No doubt morons up and down the country (and beyond), are nodding their heads and saying ""Yep! Obviously Far-Right, exactly like the ones I know."" * - will somebody please point out a far-right individual they know (not just ""know of"") and the traits that enable them co carry that banner on behalf of like-minded individuals. Don't bother with anything like ""Well, if you can't work it out, you're too thick to even discuss it with,"" retort; that will say more about you than anything those who's views differ from you can offer."
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"Part of the Labour manifesto was to reduce legal immigration and end illegal immigration Obviously the second part of that is an enormous task Disappointing that they havent completed that in a month after 14 years of the other lot Any valid points that the protestors have are being lost in the maelsrom of attacks on mosques (that is an attack on ALL Muslims ) , attacking police and property, looting shops and trying to burn down an occupied hotel Have said before there is no voice explaining the issues .... just cunts like WEIRD Elon Musk yapping from the other side of the world"
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"i can simplify, if you'd like, Pickle son?? would you be willing to answer two questions for me?"
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"""If they are true to form, they will simply condescendingly tell the silent majority what those root causes are and just do more ""Somethings"" restricted on their own decisions on what are the root causes."" well they've already done this - extremely successfully to be fair to them. They've created the false binary of 'far right' & 'immigration' (substitute in 'Muslims' when needed) and many people are happy to lap it up. Its actually not remotely complicated - you just have to drag people out of their pre-programmed comfort zone and get them talking about subjects, people and places that their overlords & programming permit them to talk about. They're a bunch of emotionally under developed fucktards, only mentally capable of binary thinking and splitting the world into oppressed and oppressors. Just get them on the subject of a group they deem to be oppressors - who believe exactly the same and behave exactly the same way as some of their oppressed groups - and the narrative they've created unravels within two questions."
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"Plenty of ""Doing something"" from the authorities but no indication whatsoever that they are going to bother actually uncovering and addressing the root causes of the violence across the - MY - country. Here's a hint - social media has nothing to do with these root causes, but may possibly be a secondary or tertiary level contributor. Government licenced MSM, on the other hand... If they are true to form, they will simply condescendingly tell the silent majority what those root causes are and just do more ""Somethings"" restricted on their own decisions on what are the root causes. They may not even bother with declaring their interpretation of the root causes to the population and steam on with more (probably expensive, mate-friendly) ""somethings"", whatever."
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Good to see swift action being taken and these thugs now facing the consequences of their actions.
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"I see Elon Musk has waded in on X with his opinion on what's being going on in the UK Said Civil war is inevitable in the UK. WTF, that's a bit extreme! Not sure i would agree with that BUT, Today commenting on 2 tier Policing in the UK, which to be fair the government really does need to address as the actions of some constabulary's is questionable on this to say the least! Elon needs to be careful; the ""liberal"" elites already have the knives out for him...........And 2 tier Keir with his head stuck in the sand needs to pull it out as he has his work cut to calm things down, really needs to recall Parliament as a first step IMO."
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"https://x.com/VoWalesOfficial/status/1820443887795581196 Becareful what you post on Social media lads, or they'll be a knock on the door, in the name of freespeach, freedom and democracy"