Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)

[maverick180]

I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

[Fauxstralian]

If that’s true re Southampton it confirms my view that getting promoted is often the worst thing Championship managers can do.
Martin does a brilliant job to get them promoted & is in danger of the sack after 5 games?
Ludicrous
 

[THUNDERCLINT]

Southampton likely too move on Potter soon while we fumble on with Flopetegui. 

[Manuel]

A win against Ipswich just buys him some time to try to get things right during the break with less pressure. A win won't mean anything though if we then lose to Spurs and Man Utd.

[Iron Duke]

We have one more point and a five goal better goal difference compared with the same fixtures last season. Not a massive improvement, but probably not fair to be screaming to sack the manager at this point. Certainly no need to panic.

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So the mindset is , a narrow win against Ipswich and everything in the garden is rosy?

Au contraire, the mindset is more like having remained unbeaten away from home the game against Ipswich, a bottom rather than a top team, will give fans a measure of where we are.

For me, six games in, it gives us a chance to say that we will win based on the form of both teams using head not heart to make the assessment. A win though does not mean we are sitting pretty by any means.

[goose]

Far from it.
A win is the important part, the performance is second.
The point is that it will hopefully be a gradual improvement which probably won’t be linear.

[happygilmore]

So the mindset is , a narrow win against Ipswich and everything in the garden is rosy?

[moorethanjustananon]

Agree Goose. 

We’re slightly better off in terms of points and goal difference compared to the same fixtures last year as well (mainly driven by conceding 8 less goals).

Clutching at positives really but a win against Ipswich will hopefully relieve a bit of pressure and give the squad some breathing space to continue to implement whatever it is Lop is trying to get across to them.  

[goose]

You could also say we’ve played 4 of the current top 6 in our first 6 games.
Five if you start including cup games.

I’m not saying it’s been anywhere near what I was hoping for, but yesterday was an improvement and there’s no way he’ll be sacked anytime soon.

Beating Ipswich is a must, but I wouldn’t expect us to destroy them. A clean sheet would be nice.

[happygilmore]

8 games and our joint top scorer with 2 is.....OG. Summerville, Kudus, Paqueta and Antonio have one goal, a penalty, between them. FFS scoring hasn't been an issue recently so not only has this twat failed to fix the defence he's broken the attack. Why is he still here? Get him out now.

The defensive stats aren't any better. In 4 games
we've conceded in the first 10 minutes. First 5 minutes in three of them. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

8 games and our joint top scorer with 2 is.....OG. Summerville, Kudus, Paqueta and Antonio have one goal, a penalty, between them. FFS scoring hasn't been an issue recently so not only has this twat failed to fix the defence he's broken the attack. Why is he still here? Get him out now.

[onsideman]

Just be patient and the quality Football (or certainly much better than the previous era) and results will eventually come. It was never going to be a quick fix and need plenty of time to rectify our issues which are understandable considering the huge turnover of staff and way of playing totally differently.

...and considering the absolutely garbage summer recruitment

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Sutton ? Do West Ham fans have some previous with him from his Blackburn days or is he just being obtuse for the attention and click bait purposes?  I have yet to see any rationale or depth to his thinking or views. But I guess thats also our modern culture, inane, puerile commentary being mistaken for journalism or punditary?

 

Just a cock I think. To be fair I've just reread this weeks and it's not quite as clearly antagonistic as he has been but it's still quite barbed. Mockingly referring to 'the West Ham way' and a dash of the standard 'careful what you wish for'.

'Julen Lopetegui needs a result and he needs a performance, the West Ham way... whatever that is under him.Their fans wanted a change, and they got the change... and I think they have expected a much better start than the one they have got.'

He's from NORFOLK...

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Why is TC talking nonsense but some on here are correct?

TC has been chatting shit for decades mate...it's nothing new.

[Full Rug]

Do you think we'll play the type of football he had the Spain U19's playing, 'Lopetegui fan here' son?

[Massive Attack]

Just be patient and the quality Football (or certainly much better than the previous era) and results will eventually come. It was never going to be a quick fix and need plenty of time to rectify our issues which are understandable considering the huge turnover of staff and way of playing totally differently.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Tbh. I’d have kept Moyes if Lopetegui was the only other option. And I hated Moyes.

[Leavemyarcelona]

Why is TC talking nonsense but some on here are correct?

[El Scorchio]

Different sport, and the 76ers fans may have a different opinion of him but the Redskins just changed hands after a nightmare two decades plus of ownership by a similar ego maniac. Josh Harris, our new owner went out and hired the best general manager available and let him rebuild the club, hiring the best coaches as could get. It's early days but it couldn't have gone better in such a short time. The dwarf pretends to do things the right way, but will always want to include certain agents and be part of the recruitment process. I'm not saying it, he allegedly said via one of his puppets (whetstone) that summerville was his buy, hahaha

Exactly this. The best owners leave it to the experts. Snyder absolutely was an egomaniac and holding that club back. It’s no coincidence since Jerry Jones got all star struck the cowboys have won fuck all. It’s also no coincidence that as soon as Kraft started involving himself in affairs and undermining BB that it all started to go tits at the Patriots. 

people like the Rooneys or the owners of the Ravens or Eagles just recruit well at senior level and leave it to those employees and they are consistently good well run organisations. There are owners who are well intentioned buffoons as well who try to do the right thing but just have bad judgement. You might include the Maras or Woody Johnson in that category. 

The best owners are silent. 

[Takashi Miike]

Different sport, and the 76ers fans may have a different opinion of him but the Redskins just changed hands after a nightmare two decades plus of ownership by a similar ego maniac. Josh Harris, our new owner went out and hired the best general manager available and let him rebuild the club, hiring the best coaches as could get. It's early days but it couldn't have gone better in such a short time. The dwarf pretends to do things the right way, but will always want to include certain agents and be part of the recruitment process. I'm not saying it, he allegedly said via one of his puppets (whetstone) that summerville was his buy, hahaha

[El Scorchio]

He's clearly in charge of every decision, so why not stop the pretence and actually do everything? Get rid of the manager, coaching staff & Tim, and have a dream team of himself, his two mini me kids and Mr West Ham. It makes sense

This is the problem with businessmen running football clubs, the arrogance and ego wont allow them to believe that a manager/coach could do a better job than them. I've heard Simon Jordan on the radio downplaying the managers importance and although he apparently hates Sullivan I bet they share the same views on running football clubs.

I wouldn’t say it’s all businessmen. Plenty own or run clubs but are able to just trust the football people to do their job with the footballing side of things. But there are some who absolutely have that ego to try and get involved in the football side. Let’s face it this forum is full of people who think they know better than various managers, coaches and DOFs- myself included so it’s probably an easy trap to fall into especially if it’s your money, but that for me is the mark of a bad owner and you’ve got to resist it. Sullivan just can’t help himself. Just like that idiot at Chelsea and Jordan probably too.  Sometimes he says some interesting stuff but fuck me he thinks the sun shines out of his own arse. No humility at all. 

[goose]

Lopetegui will have to make some brave decisions today.
Summerville deserves a start but that might mean benching Paqueta or Kudus.

Does Antonio deserve a start after making an impact midweek?

[Full Claret Jacket]

Cottee is a fucking flip flopper talking bollocks. He was one of the biggest advocates of getting rid of Moyes. He was one of the only so called ex-pro's / pundits who actually understood the Moyes situation and said that he had to go for the club to move forward. Now he says we would've been better of sticking with Moyes. Fucking geezer has been sniffing glue. 

Agree, Cottee has no opinion of his own but just parrots what he thinks West Ham fans are saying. I don't think there are any of us who don't want to see better results but I do think there are many others like me who wouldn't want a return to Moyes and his low block tactics every game whilst ignoring the replacement of aging and past it regulars. 

[claypole]

He's clearly in charge of every decision, so why not stop the pretence and actually do everything? Get rid of the manager, coaching staff & Tim, and have a dream team of himself, his two mini me kids and Mr West Ham. It makes sense

This is the problem with businessmen running football clubs, the arrogance and ego wont allow them to believe that a manager/coach could do a better job than them. I've heard Simon Jordan on the radio downplaying the managers importance and although he apparently hates Sullivan I bet they share the same views on running football clubs.

[Russ of the BML]

Cottee is a fucking flip flopper talking bollocks. He was one of the biggest advocates of getting rid of Moyes. He was one of the only so called ex-pro's / pundits who actually understood the Moyes situation and said that he had to go for the club to move forward. Now he says we would've been better of sticking with Moyes. Fucking geezer has been sniffing glue.