West Ham vs Ipswich Town (Home) | 5.10.24 | Match Thread

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West Ham: 5/6
Draw: 14/5
Ipswich: 16/5 

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[Manuel]

Django » 06 Oct 2024 15:26''Paqueta looks like a man under pressure from the betting stuff. Poor decision making a lot of the time.'


Yea yea, last season it was Moyes fault he was shit every week. If he is under pressure and it's effecting him then he shouldn't be playing, we can't be that mickey mouse surely? Other clubs/managers would tell him to fuck off out of it until his head is straight. You can't be carrying players, especially ones who ain't that great anyway. I'm sick to death of hearing about this fella to be honest, is this going to drag on all fucking season?

[Archie111]

Where is that cսnt COYI?

[Sir Alf]

Agree with Jaan, Onside, NYChammer, that Ipswich trying to press us and playing a high line at our gaff really suits the way we play and allowed those long diagonals and counter attacks to the front players to be effective.

Villa, Chelsea were more compact and sat deeper and  thats where we struggle because it means having to play thru and around them rather than a counter. Thats when we lose it and they cut thru a non existent midfield etc on the counter. 

For me, the recruitment for central midfield came up short. As I’m repeating ad nauseum ( apologies) we don’t have an engine or players with the pace to press effectively.  That said, Paqueta is the source of most turn overs.  

Lets see how we fare at Spurs who attack in numbers with pace and movement and can counter like Chelsea again at speed.  Lets see if JLo / Loppy works out that the same midfield with Rodruiguez, Soucek and Paqueta may be cruelly exposed at Spurs?   In my opinion it will? 
 

[Hammer and Pickle]

Yes that save was top-notch. Then he put us right back under pressure by passing it straight back to them, hence the concern about his distribution/communication.

[El Scorchio]

Areola was shit for their goal but made a fantastic almost banks esque save in the second half to make up for it. If Pickford or one of the keepers for Arsenal Man City or Liverpool had made that the motd panel would have been all over it. 

[Hammer and Pickle]

My Post-Match Three-Penny Worth

• The Scoreline - perfectly fair; we were alright, they were dire.
• The Performance - much more focused. I was impressed by Tobido, Kilman and really liked what I saw of Guilherme. Areola is a worry. 
• The Manager - seems to be on a better learning curve now. Kudus was more central and Bowen had the freedom of the right. This led to all four goals scored, and we've surely got to be pleased with that. Good to see Guilherme get playing time and the use of subs indicates he is ready to play the squad while the solid back four (albeit the decision to have Paqueta mark the on-form Delap for their first corner) was definitely a good move.
• Lessons learnt - no more of this back three nonsense - it doesn't work unless both wing backs are totally on the case. Paqueta should be played deeper as an 8 behind Kudus but cannot be treated as a key defender. Soucek can play a role but I certainly can't be started against top-tier opposition.
• Starting formation for Spurs - 433 with AWB, Tobido, Kilman and Emerson, Suarez, Paqueta and Kudus and Summerville, Ings and Bowen up front. Areola really needs to sort out his distribution pronto. 

[El Scorchio]

Oh, and did anyone else hear our PA announcer say ‘12’ instead of 4 for Soler’s number when he came on? I could have sworn I did but maybe I misheard or just imagined it. 

[El Scorchio]

Not sure I blame Rodriguez- has he been asked to play that weird ‘third centre back’ role before in his career? It’s such a fucking odd formation. Just seems to make our midfield look non existent and open up holes all over the place in the middle and outside when the opposition has the ball. 

As for Phillips, it probably would have been typical for him to score against us. We’ve seen it happen countless times with shithouse ex players or players who have been well under the cosh. But he was far too shit for that. Laughably so in fact. 

[Django]

Much better. Good from the front three. I still have concerns about the midfield three. 
Paqueta looks like a man under pressure from the betting stuff. Poor decision making a lot of the time.
Rodriguez doesn’t look mobile enough for this league, and looks a bit overwhelmed. Tidy on the ball though.
Soucek has been much better than last season but still is limited on the ball
Not seen enough of solar to make a call.
Alverez should be one of first players in team sheet but seems stuck in headless chicken mode.

Good to have 5 to choose from but no one, apart from soucek with his threat in the box, seems to be making a clear case to be starting. 

[Manuel]

Good to see Antonio put in a real shift in leading the line, suspect he's off again for some pointless globe trotting playing for McLaren. 

Still very unsure about Rodriguez, he looks a little bewildered with it all?

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

There were a couple of twats who said Phillips would get the winner, I don't know if it was tongue in check but fuck me I bet you're a laugh at parties. The cսnt is so hopeless he wouldn't score a winning goal if he played with U-10's. The vile cսnt was grinning when he come off too.

I'll be deciding after Spurs if that was a turning point of not yesterday.

...
guilty as charged my spick friend
I piped up somewhere and said he'd score a hat-trick.
 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Antonio starting again.
​No Summerville
Bloke's a moron 

 

I reckon 90% of WHU fans had the same thoughts when the side was announced.
Loppy showed faith in Antonio AGAIN, and  going by his performance today, he knew he owed his manager something.
Much better today throughout..
A 4-1 victory for us is as rare as hens teeth , so if you ain't happy tonight, then you never will be
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I thought it was a brave decision and one vindicated in the end. It was vintage Antonio, doing what he does best being an absolute nuisance when bang at it. Even the bit where he tackled himself after initially doing some great work going forward late on. Rolled back the years and repaid some of the faith Lopetegui has given him. Spurs next and if that same old school version of Antonio plays, then Spurs are in for yet another terrorising performance by Antonio against them. 

He looks leaner (Antonio)

[Massive Attack]

Not only did he gift us back possession cheaply within the 1st minute, he also made sure to open his legs for Bowen to simply meg him with his assist for Antonio too. My only disappointment was to see McKenna finally hook him just after we scored our 4th when he was once again non-existent in Midfield for them and ended up with twisted blood after Bowen had finished toying with him for his goal as well. 

I honestly couldn't believe we wasted time and good money (yes all 140 bags a week at the time!) on bringing the useless cսnt here in the 1st place and that a Team like Ipswich is about his level and was 1 of the very few to go totally against him arriving. He should now follow Ipswich back down in to the Championship instead of stealing a living on Premier League money once the season is over, it's where he naturally belongs. One of the most overrated current Premier League players about and thank our lucky stars we were able to send him away pronto after Moyes experiment went predictably a wry. 

[Manuel]

There were a couple of twats who said Phillips would get the winner, I don't know if it was tongue in check but fuck me I bet you're a laugh at parties. The cսnt is so hopeless he wouldn't score a winning goal if he played with U-10's. The vile cսnt was grinning when he come off too.

I'll be deciding after Spurs if that was a turning point of not yesterday.

[El Scorchio]

I see Phillips finally made a positive contribution for us today by helping out for the first goal. 

What a fucking loser. 

[Massive Attack]

As much as I like Todibo, I do have 1 serious complaint about him. Get in the fucking gym and work on your spindly girly arms you Tyrannosaurus Rex looking freak! More meat on a butchers pencil and it baffles me how thin and fragile his arms look. My nans got stronger arms and she's been dead a few years now. 

[Alfs]

Another reason I like Lopetegui using many of his Subs available this season is because the managers going to find it difficult keeping so many quality players happy if we don't offer then minutes  if the opportunity arises and not just because the starting XI need a shake up. It's a balancing act but rather this approach than barely using the Squad at all. 

Agreed.  With Moyes fringe players like Cornet wouldn't get a sniff so when he did get a chance he was far from match sharp.  The more of the squad actually involved, the better.

[nychammer]

Ipswich obviously thought they could worry us so their performance was very different from those against Brighton and Villa when they shut up shop and secured creditable draws. They made today a very open game which played into our hands 

yeah they miscalculated badly, hard to blame them for going for it based on some of our performances this season, but they got it all wrong, were somewhat naive in defence and we were easily able to take advantage. Should have scored 6 truth be told. 

[fraser]

Has COYI been on yet telling everyone how shit the excellent looking Todibo was and telling everyone how he's called it right? 

Shame about the international break coming straight after. 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Another reason I like Lopetegui using many of his Subs available this season is because the managers going to find it difficult keeping so many quality players happy if we don't offer then minutes  if the opportunity arises and not just because the starting XI need a shake up. It's a balancing act but rather this approach than barely using the Squad at all. 

I agree..most clubs use most of there subs now .
I like that the likes of Summerville/Guillermo/Soler got time on the pitch today.

[Massive Attack]

Another reason I like Lopetegui using many of his Subs available this season is because the managers going to find it difficult keeping so many quality players happy if we don't offer then minutes  if the opportunity arises and not just because the starting XI need a shake up. It's a balancing act but rather this approach than barely using the Squad at all. 

[Joe C]

Ipswich obviously thought they could worry us so their performance was very different from those against Brighton and Villa when they shut up shop and secured creditable draws. They made today a very open game which played into our hands 

Yeah, this is pretty much spot on. 

Phillips did more for us today in an Ipswich shirt than he ever did in a West Ham one

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Ipswich obviously thought they could worry us so their performance was very different from those against Brighton and Villa when they shut up shop and secured creditable draws. They made today a very open game which played into our hands 

Yeah agree with this

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Weird game really. We were really sloppy at times and vulnerable at the back but managed to create chances where we should have scored more than four. Yet, still feel the scoreline flattered us a bit. Ipswich could have scored a second, which would have exposed the obvious nerves and lack of confidence in the team more, but a comfortable win in the end with all four attacking players scoring makes it a perfect 3 points.

Hopefully the catalyst to breed a bit of  form, but not expecting to get much if anything from the next two games.

[onsideman]

Ipswich obviously thought they could worry us so their performance was very different from those against Brighton and Villa when they shut up shop and secured creditable draws. They made today a very open game which played into our hands