West Ham United vs Spurs (Away) | 19.10.24 | Match Thread

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Odds:
West Ham: 11/2
Draw: 9/2
Spurs: 1/2

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[Nutsin]

Poor old Billy is all over the place. What a desperate mess he is!

[Manuel]

I can't get over how shit we are in the middle of the park, shocking recruitment there, or lack of. Even the biggest backers of Paqueta must surely admit at this point that it's over for the bloke, you might as well put a bloke in the stands in his place and he wouldn't do any worse, Soucek is only useful if he scores, and Rodriguez and Soler are not the answer, the type of players that should be at Leicester, or the like. Alvarez can be OK, but he's hardly Roy Keane, is he. Even if a new manager comes in it's still going to be a big issue.

Season looking a write of already, it's gonna be painful in the bowl.

[Sydney_Iron]

Bit apathetic to the loss TBH, Fuck knows what's going on at the club, playing well then all of a sudden it all turns to custard and the players look like rabbits in the headlights.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

I also think that we should have continued with Moyes as he knew how to get the best out of our squad.

That said, I think we were by far the better team today and we should have been 2-0 up at one point, it may have been a different outcome.

Not our day today and well done to Spurs!






 

I take it all back... this is the stupidest thing Ive heard on here... Sorry dont know where to start... you ladysmith do not have a scooby!

Why because she has a different view?

No because its obvious to even a dunce like you that everything Ladysmith said is bollocks... Moyes got the best out of the squad... Wrong based on his last 2 seasons! We were the better team today... Wrong we were humiliated by Spurs... Maybe cut him some slack on the shouldve been 2 nil up and it couldve been different... there fair enough for you?!
But Well done to Spurs! Made me sick in my mouth.... Sort of camp thing Nutstain would say...!

[F 129 Row66]

Why do the allow Son and You Doggie in the same team

[threesixty]

I’m just gutted that it doesn’t look like it’s gonna work out for this manager. He needs to do something drastic to get himself out of this mess. 
His job with the money spent is to compete with any side around that top 6. And it just looks like we can’t beat anyone at that level. 

for me it feels like the midfield players who have saved us or done well against the smaller teams (paq, soucek) are ironically the issue with the whole team. 

I’d rather play wan bissaka in midfield than what we have now. I’d just go for broke to solve this midfield issue. None of them,
not Alvarez, not Rodriguez, not paq or soucek offer any control of
a game. It’s like they’re not even there. 

the whole midfield 3 needs changing otherwise we are never going to get better. 

[ragingbull]

I thought we should have had a penalty when udoggy handballed on the line.

[onsideman]

Paqueta is indeed a liability, but for all those advocating Soler... surely the only positive is that he isn't Paqueta? I've seen nothing whatsoever from him to suggest he's the answer to any of our problems 

[stubbo-admin]

Those in 'Careful what you wish for' brigade need to remember that the manager situation was a series of independent decisions/processes:

1. Had Moyes run his race at West Ham?
2. Create shortlist of managers
3. Interview managers
4. Select Manager

It was never 'Moyes or Lopetegui' and anyone suggesting it was is being disengenuous.

You can get any step of 1 to 4 above right or wrong independently. Lopetegui and Moyes were not an either/or selection....and one being wrong doesn't mean the other was right.

[Leavemyarcelona]

I also think that we should have continued with Moyes as he knew how to get the best out of our squad.

That said, I think we were by far the better team today and we should have been 2-0 up at one point, it may have been a different outcome.

Not our day today and well done to Spurs!




 

I take it all back... this is the stupidest thing Ive heard on here... Sorry dont know where to start... you ladysmith do not have a scooby!

Why because she has a different view?

[twoleftfeet]

I can confirm that nutsin and I are not one and the same person, we just agree on a few things.

I just thought I’d clear that up.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

I also think that we should have continued with Moyes as he knew how to get the best out of our squad.

That said, I think we were by far the better team today and we should have been 2-0 up at one point, it may have been a different outcome.

Not our day today and well done to Spurs!



 

I take it all back... this is the stupidest thing Ive heard on here... Sorry dont know where to start... you ladysmith do not have a scooby!

[BillyJenningsBoots]

And you ignored the risk.

 

 

So you just keep the failing manager in place because their is a risk.... grow up you twat.

Not defending what youve said then... Not got much support for your view apart from your other user account Twoleftfeet.. pretty much an admission of how wrong you are...

Now STFU... 

[goose]

I also think that we should have continued with Moyes as he knew how to get the best out of our squad.

That said, I think we were by far the better team today and we should have been 2-0 up at one point, it may have been a different outcome.

Not our day today and well done to Spurs!


 

You think record PL defeats, the worst defence outside the bottom 3 and dog shit football is getting the best out of a £500m squad?

[gpike]

Noticed that jock cսnt on TNT sport Ally MC twat said "be careful what you wish for" regarding getting rid of Moyles. The media old school cunts love Moyles...

[onsideman]

The only fuck up was potentially appointing the wrong manager. 

No potentially about it... but also appointing the wrong Technical Director, or whatever Steidten is.

[Ladysmith]

I also think that we should have continued with Moyes as he knew how to get the best out of our squad.

That said, I think we were by far the better team today and we should have been 2-0 up at one point, it may have been a different outcome.

Not our day today and well done to Spurs!

 

[Nutsin]

And you ignored the risk.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Billy Sollocks,

Nobody was happy with the way last season unfolded after such a solid start, that doesn’t mean you run out and fire the manager straight away fg! Especially after he delivered Euro success for the first time in his knows how long. I said back then that if we fire him we run the risk of fucking it all up and sure enough we have.

So stop your silly, stubborn defense of your stupidity and realize it’s a fuck up!

Here’s to another 50years!

 

 

I think its you that needs to give up on your stubborn defense of a has-been manager who was damaging his average at best record... you still seem to think we should be grateful to have won a trophy, well Ive got news for you we have won trophies before, but that was Moyes's only trophy... I think he should be grateful to us...

You insult all West Ham fans intelligence the way you think you knew best, how "you got what you deserve" really thought you were a West Ham fan, you don't sound like one... "Here's to another 50 years" sounds like you are glad you warned us and thats coming to fruition... everyone knows getting rid of a manager is a risk.. it isnt new news... 

[zico]

The issue with Moyes was, last season especially, he was no longer any good at what he was meant to be good at. The media portrayed him as a solid defensive manager but they tended to gloss over the fact that the team conceded 74 goals in the PL last year, only the bottom three conceded more.  He didn't address the failings in the team, recruitment was hit and miss, some very good signings but he never addressed the issue of an old and slow team.  The purple patch of good counter attacking football was when Lingard hit his own purple patch a few years back but the club concentrated too much on getting Lingard permanently rather than going out and getting someone similar  who wanted to sign and upgrading an ageing Antonio.  So both club and Moyes had effectively come to the end of the road.  Moyes was never going to change his philosophy and unless he had got his recruitment bang on to bring vibrant youth, pace and technical ability into the squad you could only see another season similar to last on its way.

Problem is the club went out and got JL who I suspect was never a first choice, more like fourth or fifth and again whoever is in charge of recruitment whether it's JL, Steidten or Sullivan has again ignored what the team needs.  Still the second oldest squad, no legs in midfield and still, several years on without a decent replacement for Antonio.  In the meantime a club that was in the Championship not long ago Villa are flying again, Brighton win away at Newcastle to go 5th and Bournemouth beat Arsenal.  The club just doesn't seem to learn where the teams weaknesses are and act upon them.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

“The only fuck up was from appointing the wrong manager”

Thats a pretty big fuck up! One that some of us warned you about.

Moyes delivered some great European nights he deserved at least 1 transfer window to right the ship. He’d just proven he could do it.

Now fuck knows what’s next.

Im not convinced that sacking Moyes was the right choice.

In hindsight it looks like it was a bad decision.

 

 

Nutsack

You are sooooo fucking clueless and deluded.... you seriously think we shouldve kept Moyes for 1 more window when he'd already proved through countless windows that he dithered and chased the wrong players, Maguire, Lingard and Phillips, he himself admitted he couldn't work with a big squad, wouldnt play the squad he had, banned Steidten from the training ground .... so many reasons he had to go even Sullivan could see it... the Contract was designed such that he couldn't sign it as he no longer had a veto..

Sacking Moyes WAS the right decision, what is open for debate is whether Lopetegui was the right replacement... the jury is out on the latter...

[Ron Eff]

“The only fuck up was from appointing the wrong manager”

Thats a pretty big fuck up! One that some of us warned you about.

Moyes delivered some great European nights he deserved at least 1 transfer window to right the ship. He’d just proven he could do it.

Now fuck knows what’s next.

Im not convinced that sacking Moyes was the right choice.

In hindsight it looks like it was a bad decision.

It would have been an even bigger fuck up to keep the bloke who is supposed to be a defensive genius yet managed to concede 5 to Fulham, Palace, Liverpool, Chelsea and 6 to Arsenal. 

That said, this situation needs addressing sharpish. 

[goose]

You keep mentioning European nights while completely ignoring the poor league form over the last two years.

Moyes had numerous transfer windows and spent something like £450m. How many more windows would he have needed to ‘right the ship’??

[Nutsin]

“The only fuck up was from appointing the wrong manager”

Thats a pretty big fuck up! One that some of us warned you about.

Moyes delivered some great European nights he deserved at least 1 transfer window to right the ship. He’d just proven he could do it.

Now fuck knows what’s next.

Im not convinced that sacking Moyes was the right choice.

In hindsight it looks like it was a bad decision.

[Ron Eff]

Fucking it all up? Yes today was a horror show, yet still not even in the same postcode of bad as Fulham and Palace away last season. 

What from our away form to end last season (5-2 to Palace and 5-0 to Chelsea) makes you think Moyes would turn the form around?

The only fuck up was potentially appointing the wrong manager.