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Re: Oradour-sur-Glane
The Mercernary" wrote: ↑25 Oct 2024, 13:09 I've been re-watching the amazing World at War series again - it's currently available on "U". Just one fascinating fact that stayed with me is that more Russians died in the siege of Leningrad than the British and American deaths combined for the duration of the war. FMOB on that one!
I can't get my nut around that!?!
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I've been re-watching the amazing World at War series again - it's currently available on "U". Just one fascinating fact that stayed with me is that more Russians died in the siege of Leningrad than the British and American deaths combined for the duration of the war. FMOB on that one!
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Re: Oradour-sur-Glane
Tomshardware wrote: ↑25 Oct 2024, 11:38 The World at War documentary opens with a scene of Oradour-Sur-Glane and a powerful narrative by Laurence Olivier.
Yes Toms, Sir Laurence gave that series the gravitas that it deserved.
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The World at War documentary opens with a scene of Oradour-Sur-Glane and a powerful narrative by Laurence Olivier.
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Yes, I've spent quite a bit of time out there (Limoges, Angouleme, Jarnac) so I've been (or have taken people) several times.
What happened was a German officer was captured by the Resistance, he was being held at O. sur Vayres, a similarly named place nearby. The Germans got intelligence as to where he was being held, but it all got lost in translation, and they descended on OSG totally by mistake.
They herded the villagers out into the street and interrogated them... they refused to believe that nobody had a clue what it was all about. The local doctor turned up to plead for sanity, he was put on his knees and executed in front of the crowds (it's his car rotting away in the main square there).
The men were then separated out, taken to three locations within the village, and machine-gunned. The women and children were barricaded into the church at the far end of the village, they too were machine-gunned randomly, then the church was set on fire... Only a couple of people escaped and survived - effectively, the whole place was cordoned off and its inhabitants murdered.
The Germans then left, but came back after a while and attempted to burn all the male corpses as well...
The French authorities preserved the village pretty much 'as was'... some of the burned out buildings still have the original shop items, tools, weighing machines, sewing machines, bed frames, kid's cots and toys etc littered around in the burnt wreckage. It's incredibly sobering...
There's a big underground entrance / information centre, with films etc to explain the whole event, then a tunnel takes you through into the old village itself.
A replacement village/town was then built just up the road from the original.
This is one of the worst examples of the Germans' brutality, "just obeying orders", but there are several others in a similar vein across France.
Toxic world groups like the WEF and NWO have come up out of the embers of WW2... it's never really gone away, and people like Klaus Schwabb, Soros and far too many others are still attempting to push through the same agenda, based around the Kalergi Plan, Common Purpose and the Globalist control of our planet. Once you experience atrocities like Oradour-sur-Glane, you start to appreciate that what has become more and more visible over these last 5 or 6 years is not 'conspiracy theory'... they have been working their way towards the same goal for DECADES, and it will take a monumental effort by millions of ordinary folk to stop it in its tracks.
We have never lived through more dangerous times, and it really is all to play for over the next 5 / 10 years...
What happened was a German officer was captured by the Resistance, he was being held at O. sur Vayres, a similarly named place nearby. The Germans got intelligence as to where he was being held, but it all got lost in translation, and they descended on OSG totally by mistake.
They herded the villagers out into the street and interrogated them... they refused to believe that nobody had a clue what it was all about. The local doctor turned up to plead for sanity, he was put on his knees and executed in front of the crowds (it's his car rotting away in the main square there).
The men were then separated out, taken to three locations within the village, and machine-gunned. The women and children were barricaded into the church at the far end of the village, they too were machine-gunned randomly, then the church was set on fire... Only a couple of people escaped and survived - effectively, the whole place was cordoned off and its inhabitants murdered.
The Germans then left, but came back after a while and attempted to burn all the male corpses as well...
The French authorities preserved the village pretty much 'as was'... some of the burned out buildings still have the original shop items, tools, weighing machines, sewing machines, bed frames, kid's cots and toys etc littered around in the burnt wreckage. It's incredibly sobering...
There's a big underground entrance / information centre, with films etc to explain the whole event, then a tunnel takes you through into the old village itself.
A replacement village/town was then built just up the road from the original.
This is one of the worst examples of the Germans' brutality, "just obeying orders", but there are several others in a similar vein across France.
Toxic world groups like the WEF and NWO have come up out of the embers of WW2... it's never really gone away, and people like Klaus Schwabb, Soros and far too many others are still attempting to push through the same agenda, based around the Kalergi Plan, Common Purpose and the Globalist control of our planet. Once you experience atrocities like Oradour-sur-Glane, you start to appreciate that what has become more and more visible over these last 5 or 6 years is not 'conspiracy theory'... they have been working their way towards the same goal for DECADES, and it will take a monumental effort by millions of ordinary folk to stop it in its tracks.
We have never lived through more dangerous times, and it really is all to play for over the next 5 / 10 years...
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Re: Oradour-sur-Glane
Chi-townHammer wrote: ↑22 Oct 2024, 19:10 Apparently it did take passengers Russ. I looked it up, and it was part of a network that ran directly from Limoges. Looked like a train but ran on overhead cables.
Cheers. I read it was originally to transport food and goods into the village. But seems pretty logical people started jumping on it.
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Apparently it did take passengers Russ. I looked it up, and it was part of a network that ran directly from Limoges. Looked like a train but ran on overhead cables.
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Chi-townHammer wrote: ↑22 Oct 2024, 14:32 Yes, went about 5 years ago. As pointed out, a very eerie place. Seeing the church were women and children were locked inside and burned alive or machine gunned stays with you. Outside of the atrocity itself (which is hard to comprehend), I was amazed that such a small town apparently had a tram.
The German Panzer division responsible had been redeployed from the Eastern front, where razing villages to the ground was pretty much standard procedure. But even by their standards this was horrific.
I believe the tram went some distance outside the village to farms to collect produce and bring it back into the village and other villages along the way. Not sure if was for public transport use.
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I'd never heard of this place or incident so I've just been investigating it.
FMOB.
FMOB.
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Yes, went about 5 years ago. As pointed out, a very eerie place. Seeing the church were women and children were locked inside and burned alive or machine gunned stays with you. Outside of the atrocity itself (which is hard to comprehend), I was amazed that such a small town apparently had a tram.
The German Panzer division responsible had been redeployed from the Eastern front, where razing villages to the ground was pretty much standard procedure. But even by their standards this was horrific.
The German Panzer division responsible had been redeployed from the Eastern front, where razing villages to the ground was pretty much standard procedure. But even by their standards this was horrific.
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Re: Oradour-sur-Glane
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑22 Oct 2024, 11:51Yes I went years ago when holidaying in France.. preserved as it was after the Germans massacred the villagers... very eerie atmosphere and so still and quiet.. everyone visiting were very respectful speaking in hushed tones.. even groups of young children.
Why do you ask?
I didn't even know you could visit the place, so just wanted some feed back.
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Why do you ask?
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No. But read a book about which was quite short, but very detailed. Kept me up a few nights afterwards. Horrific. Orders or not, stuff like this is just mind shattering. I hope any Germans that participated in this act will slowly rot in hell and never be at peace.
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Near Limoges? I've been near it but never visited as its always been family holidays with the kids, looks interesting though. I think there's a few towns like this that were left as reminders.
Interestingly it looks as though the Germans destroyed the wrong town as they took a wrong turning and annihilated a village that didn't support the Maquis.
Interestingly it looks as though the Germans destroyed the wrong town as they took a wrong turning and annihilated a village that didn't support the Maquis.
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