I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season
Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit
We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge
But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask
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southbankbornnbred
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I generally don’t give a fuck what other teams’ fans think of us. But this, from a half-decent Forest fan, is interesting.
“Moyes’ West Ham was always a tough tough game.
This has been the easiest game this season
How can you hound Moyes out after winning a European trophy. #WHUFC fans must be sick
Lopetegui a complete and utter fraud #NFFC”
It was right to ditch Moyes, as other fans didn’t see how quickly we deteriorated under him. But he’s spot on about Lopetegui. We need a new manager, with some careful thought going into who it is, how they will coach, his support staff, the team’s style and a long-term approach on the pitch and off it.
Not this charlatan.
“Moyes’ West Ham was always a tough tough game.
This has been the easiest game this season
How can you hound Moyes out after winning a European trophy. #WHUFC fans must be sick
Lopetegui a complete and utter fraud #NFFC”
It was right to ditch Moyes, as other fans didn’t see how quickly we deteriorated under him. But he’s spot on about Lopetegui. We need a new manager, with some careful thought going into who it is, how they will coach, his support staff, the team’s style and a long-term approach on the pitch and off it.
Not this charlatan.
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Manuel
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southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 10:03 Watched the full game now. It’s worse than I thought.
Lopetegui is so out of his depth that it’s genuinely shocking. He’s one of the most over-rated managers I’ve ever seen at any club.
Fucking around with a back three when he has no history of it in England: he had absolutely no idea what he was doing with the defence and, lo and behold, they didn’t have a clue what they were doing as players.
They’ve given the job to a clueless clown who can’t communicate with his players effectively and who seems to think he’s playing a computer game (by changing line-ups and formations on a whim, with little practice).
I’ve never been more more certain that we need to ditch a manager so quickly. It probably won’t happen, because the league is quite poor in the bottom half this season. But he could easily relegate this side.
He should never have got the job. Those who appointed him need to ask themselves some serious questions.
Yea well summed up. Sullivan may be stupid, but he's not completely stupid, he has eyes like the rest of us and will know he's fucked up. He'll sit on it for a while now unless there is some turn of events that gives him little choice but to act. A defeat to Everton before a break could be the right time, but I highly doubt it.
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Watched the full game now. It’s worse than I thought.
Lopetegui is so out of his depth that it’s genuinely shocking. He’s one of the most over-rated managers I’ve ever seen at any club.
Fucking around with a back three when he has no history of it in England: he had absolutely no idea what he was doing with the defence and, lo and behold, they didn’t have a clue what they were doing as players.
They’ve given the job to a clueless clown who can’t communicate with his players effectively and who seems to think he’s playing a computer game (by changing line-ups and formations on a whim, with little practice).
I’ve never been more more certain that we need to ditch a manager so quickly. It probably won’t happen, because the league is quite poor in the bottom half this season. But he could easily relegate this side.
He should never have got the job. Those who appointed him need to ask themselves some serious questions.
Lopetegui is so out of his depth that it’s genuinely shocking. He’s one of the most over-rated managers I’ve ever seen at any club.
Fucking around with a back three when he has no history of it in England: he had absolutely no idea what he was doing with the defence and, lo and behold, they didn’t have a clue what they were doing as players.
They’ve given the job to a clueless clown who can’t communicate with his players effectively and who seems to think he’s playing a computer game (by changing line-ups and formations on a whim, with little practice).
I’ve never been more more certain that we need to ditch a manager so quickly. It probably won’t happen, because the league is quite poor in the bottom half this season. But he could easily relegate this side.
He should never have got the job. Those who appointed him need to ask themselves some serious questions.
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That is a very plausible scenario Gank sadly.
young Sullivan will have never been told of his limitations and likely has been very spoilt. No boundaries or disappointments or mistakes and screw ups alliwed to hapoen or been acknowledged for Dave’s spawn. So no learning experiences or humility or understanding of limitarions. Like Dad probably no “willingness to be wrong” as I suspect they too are sub consciously deeply insecure just like Dad.
Will Salthouse and other agents like Mackay are “family friends” and young Sullivan will, like his Dad, seek fan approval with populist signings and no long term planning or strategy or use od qualified football experts.
Poor old Noble’s “ this club aint a circus anymore” comment will hang over us like a dark cloud for another few decades.
good news is a lot of us will peg it in that time and be put out of our misery. Memories of the cup wins in the 60s and 70s faded to nothing and just a 2 -3 season high spot with a 3rd tier euro trophy and a dozen enjoyable european games
young Sullivan will have never been told of his limitations and likely has been very spoilt. No boundaries or disappointments or mistakes and screw ups alliwed to hapoen or been acknowledged for Dave’s spawn. So no learning experiences or humility or understanding of limitarions. Like Dad probably no “willingness to be wrong” as I suspect they too are sub consciously deeply insecure just like Dad.
Will Salthouse and other agents like Mackay are “family friends” and young Sullivan will, like his Dad, seek fan approval with populist signings and no long term planning or strategy or use od qualified football experts.
Poor old Noble’s “ this club aint a circus anymore” comment will hang over us like a dark cloud for another few decades.
good news is a lot of us will peg it in that time and be put out of our misery. Memories of the cup wins in the 60s and 70s faded to nothing and just a 2 -3 season high spot with a 3rd tier euro trophy and a dozen enjoyable european games
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*Danny Ings waves frantically whilst limbering up on the touchline wearing a sandwich board in bold red capitals declaring - I'M FUCKING RIGHT HERE YOU BLIND CUNTS!!*
Won't pretend he's amazing or the like but fuck me the geezer has a long track record of regularly performing and scoring in the Premier League and 1 that is very professional who can be relied upon. We seriously need to start him and give him a proper go now and it should have actually happened long ago now.
Getting to bizarre levels when we keep overlooking him for say a past it make shift Striker in Antonio or a makeshift poor Striker (as in played as a No. 9) Bowen, especially when he just makes positive limited impacts like against Man Utd, Fulham or against Burnley and Sheffield United before this season. Nope, back to the bench to rot, you go Danny Boy....
Won't pretend he's amazing or the like but fuck me the geezer has a long track record of regularly performing and scoring in the Premier League and 1 that is very professional who can be relied upon. We seriously need to start him and give him a proper go now and it should have actually happened long ago now.
Getting to bizarre levels when we keep overlooking him for say a past it make shift Striker in Antonio or a makeshift poor Striker (as in played as a No. 9) Bowen, especially when he just makes positive limited impacts like against Man Utd, Fulham or against Burnley and Sheffield United before this season. Nope, back to the bench to rot, you go Danny Boy....
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Gank wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 09:45 Sir Alf, if you think it’s bad under Sullivan now, wait until he dies and his moron son inherits the shares. The little half wit has already tried playing Football Manager with the club by taking over the women’s team and ruining them, he’ll be a lot more “hands on” than his father and we already know that whenever he interferes things get worse - the new idiot will interfere a LOT more frequently.
Bang. On. The. Money. Gank.
It’ll be a clusterfuck.
It’ll be a clusterfuck.
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Sir Alf, if you think it’s bad under Sullivan now, wait until he dies and his moron son inherits the shares. The little half wit has already tried playing Football Manager with the club by taking over the women’s team and ruining them, he’ll be a lot more “hands on” than his father and we already know that whenever he interferes things get worse - the new idiot will interfere a LOT more frequently.
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Problem is Massive that when we lose it trying to pass thru midfield ( partly because we dont have a fast, central striker who can hold it and/or pass it accurately or run a channel ) we have to be able to mount an effective recovery or counter press. But IMO we simply do not have the players with the speec and “legs” to get about the pitch to do that. We have uet to press any team effectively. So that means we have to play a bit deeper with 2 central midfielders and one if not both full backs no longer so advanced. That then blunts our ability to further to create overloads and stretch teams. So we would have to start to sliding back to being a more low block and counter attacking team again.
But its clear to me that we are simply missing 3 or so players with pace, strength, stamina ( legs ) to press and stretch teams that would allow us to dominate possession and create chances by passing out from the back and thru midfield which Loppy is trying to get us doing. We dont even have a striker to hold it up to allow us to go more direct.
Recruitment next summer has to prioritise central midfield. A couple of real athletes but with good technical attributes. They should be where a lot of the budget goes imo. A player with the profile of a Caicedo, Bissouma, Gravenburch, etc and they aint cheap unless the supposed “pearl diver” can fund someone unknown but even thats harder now with every club scouring the world for youmg players. A striker too wont be cheap. And then there is Sullivan interfering with Salthouse clients being purchased every year.
This season? Its written off for me already. Sullivan wont act, we are claiming we’re broke again and the above issues with Lops tactical approach will not be rectified without expensive recruitment. Staying above relegation troubles is about the most we can hope for. Harsh but true imo based on what we are seeing and the aforementioned squad deficiencies and their mismatch to the system and tactics being used.
It will likely see Loppy gone just after Xmas if things go really pear shaped. If we make mid table and avoid flirting with relegation, Sullivan will give him a second season and second transfer window. But the very mention of Sullivan being in the mix means its almost certain whatever plays out will not see much of an upturn in our fortunes. Sullivans record in the football sense is abject failure. The only success he got was an unexpected “surprise” when Moyes inherited a squad and implemented “Moyesball” low block tactics that were well suited. The advent of COVID and no crowds helped too but credit where its due, for 2 seasons it got good results. The Prem teams then worked out how to handle Moyesball and seasons 3 and 4 we stopped getting the results and the abject football on display was no longer acceptable. The Euro adventures masked the issues in seasons 3 and 4 though because unlike the Premiership, European teams were not used to facing teams who were happy with 25% and 10 behind the ball and hitting them with fast, direct counter attacks using a battering ram central striker.
In summary, its going to be another grim season. And highly unlikely anything will change with the ownership we have in place.
*** Alf listens to his favourite hymn “glad that I live am I” ***
But its clear to me that we are simply missing 3 or so players with pace, strength, stamina ( legs ) to press and stretch teams that would allow us to dominate possession and create chances by passing out from the back and thru midfield which Loppy is trying to get us doing. We dont even have a striker to hold it up to allow us to go more direct.
Recruitment next summer has to prioritise central midfield. A couple of real athletes but with good technical attributes. They should be where a lot of the budget goes imo. A player with the profile of a Caicedo, Bissouma, Gravenburch, etc and they aint cheap unless the supposed “pearl diver” can fund someone unknown but even thats harder now with every club scouring the world for youmg players. A striker too wont be cheap. And then there is Sullivan interfering with Salthouse clients being purchased every year.
This season? Its written off for me already. Sullivan wont act, we are claiming we’re broke again and the above issues with Lops tactical approach will not be rectified without expensive recruitment. Staying above relegation troubles is about the most we can hope for. Harsh but true imo based on what we are seeing and the aforementioned squad deficiencies and their mismatch to the system and tactics being used.
It will likely see Loppy gone just after Xmas if things go really pear shaped. If we make mid table and avoid flirting with relegation, Sullivan will give him a second season and second transfer window. But the very mention of Sullivan being in the mix means its almost certain whatever plays out will not see much of an upturn in our fortunes. Sullivans record in the football sense is abject failure. The only success he got was an unexpected “surprise” when Moyes inherited a squad and implemented “Moyesball” low block tactics that were well suited. The advent of COVID and no crowds helped too but credit where its due, for 2 seasons it got good results. The Prem teams then worked out how to handle Moyesball and seasons 3 and 4 we stopped getting the results and the abject football on display was no longer acceptable. The Euro adventures masked the issues in seasons 3 and 4 though because unlike the Premiership, European teams were not used to facing teams who were happy with 25% and 10 behind the ball and hitting them with fast, direct counter attacks using a battering ram central striker.
In summary, its going to be another grim season. And highly unlikely anything will change with the ownership we have in place.
*** Alf listens to his favourite hymn “glad that I live am I” ***
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Sir Alf" wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 08:37 Sullivan will die in the next 10 years and that will be how he leaves....
In the immediate term ( this season ) the exising mess will continue with a coach who is trying to implement tactics and a style he doesnt have the squad for. The poor recruitment and squad management and one tactic under Moyed ( Moyesball low block) has left a long shadow that will take a while to shake off without a coach who knows this league well enough to work with the Steidten and get the recruitment right. We did a half arsed job in the summer and the Moyes legacy held us back too as we could not get any money for 3 or 4 of his duds.
...Every cloud.
As for the Moyes Squad/style of Football legacy, if I was Lopetegui I would threaten them by asking if they'd rather go back to playing with only 25% possession of the ball, or fix up and start playing like they actually want to play with the cunting thing. Put bluntly in those terms there shouldn't be anyone putting up their hand wanting to go back that way of playing. But unless they shake that shit culture out of their collective system, then that's as much as they can handle right now which is a sorry state of affairs when you consider the Squad consists of Bowen, Kudus, Paqueta, Emerson with new recruits added to it like Summerville and Soler who all have ability on the ball.
As for recruitment, this is how I currently view it being a success/failure:
Quality signings -
Kilman
Todibo
Wan-Bissaka
Summerville
Unsure yet -
Fullkrug
Guilherme
Soler
A rotten stinking fanny -
Rodriquez
There's still time for that to improve the longer the season goes on but a lot hinges on Fullkrug and Soler working out before the season is out. Otherwise it'll look a very average recruitment which needed to be better if they don't come good and a missed opportunity to kick on.
I do think even at the time we missed a trick getting in a new younger Striker and was encouraged we at least went for Duran but ultimately failed and ended up panic buying for an extortionate injury prone old biddie at the last minute which stank of desperation. Also thought we shoukd have gone all out for a new young quality Keeper as Fabianski is on borrowed time and I never believed in Areola being the quality we want to really improve greatly. We failed on that basis alone which I weren't happy about. I was very happy with the new look Defence though, just needs time to settle down and become more familiar with one another and suss exactly what the manager is trying to instill.
As for the Moyes Squad/style of Football legacy, if I was Lopetegui I would threaten them by asking if they'd rather go back to playing with only 25% possession of the ball, or fix up and start playing like they actually want to play with the cunting thing. Put bluntly in those terms there shouldn't be anyone putting up their hand wanting to go back that way of playing. But unless they shake that shit culture out of their collective system, then that's as much as they can handle right now which is a sorry state of affairs when you consider the Squad consists of Bowen, Kudus, Paqueta, Emerson with new recruits added to it like Summerville and Soler who all have ability on the ball.
As for recruitment, this is how I currently view it being a success/failure:
Quality signings -
Kilman
Todibo
Wan-Bissaka
Summerville
Unsure yet -
Fullkrug
Guilherme
Soler
A rotten stinking fanny -
Rodriquez
There's still time for that to improve the longer the season goes on but a lot hinges on Fullkrug and Soler working out before the season is out. Otherwise it'll look a very average recruitment which needed to be better if they don't come good and a missed opportunity to kick on.
I do think even at the time we missed a trick getting in a new younger Striker and was encouraged we at least went for Duran but ultimately failed and ended up panic buying for an extortionate injury prone old biddie at the last minute which stank of desperation. Also thought we shoukd have gone all out for a new young quality Keeper as Fabianski is on borrowed time and I never believed in Areola being the quality we want to really improve greatly. We failed on that basis alone which I weren't happy about. I was very happy with the new look Defence though, just needs time to settle down and become more familiar with one another and suss exactly what the manager is trying to instill.
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Come On You Irons
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I wouldn't be so sure and cocky about that. It smacks of arrogance.
We are only ten games into the season and there is nothing to say the likes of Wolves and Ipswich won't pick up. Southampton and Palace both have a win now and have won only two fewer games than West Ham.
I firmly believe West Ham is in a relegation battle under 'loser Lop'. Big game next Saturday coming up against a relegation rival in Everton.
The one thing we all know though is that a board still largely dominated by Sullivan would never pull the trigger and get rid of a failing manager until we are bang in trouble in and around the bottom three.
We are only ten games into the season and there is nothing to say the likes of Wolves and Ipswich won't pick up. Southampton and Palace both have a win now and have won only two fewer games than West Ham.
I firmly believe West Ham is in a relegation battle under 'loser Lop'. Big game next Saturday coming up against a relegation rival in Everton.
The one thing we all know though is that a board still largely dominated by Sullivan would never pull the trigger and get rid of a failing manager until we are bang in trouble in and around the bottom three.
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Sullivan will die in the next 10 years and that will be how he leaves. Salthouse and several agents will increase their influence by advising Jack and the other son. The club will continue to underachieve as it always has.
In the immediate term ( this season ) the exising mess will continue with a coach who is trying to implement tactics and a style he doesnt have the squad for. The poor recruitment and squad management and one tactic under Moyed ( Moyesball low block) has left a long shadow that will take a while to shake off without a coach who knows this league well enough to work with the Steidten and get the recruitment right. We did a half arsed job in the summer and the Moyes legacy held us back too as we could not get any money for 3 or 4 of his duds. But, as mentioned, summer recruitment had to be perfect and wasnt in terms of how Lopetegui sets up his teams and the tactics employed.
In my opinion, Wan Bassaka ( wrongly used), Todibo, Kilman and Summerville were good recruits. The young Brazilian was a luxury for us right now. We needed players now even though he might end up being a shrewd buy longer term.
The areas we recruited wrongly and poorly for were central midfield and central striker. To play a game with overlapping, high positioned wing backs and back line, you need legs, pace and strength in central midfield. We dont have a player in the squad with those attributes or that profile. Its the heart of a lot of the problem and why we are regularly conceding 2 or more goals a game. Even yesterday, Wood’s goal is in part due to Mavropanus being matched up against the quick wide man Moreno. Wan Bassaka would have very likely stopped that cross coming in . The poor marking of Woods didnt help but that cross ( yet again a fast counter after Summerville attempted a poor pass outside their box)
Add to that no outlet up front again with pace and strength and allows Bowen to go wide right where he is effective.
obvious to many fans and not rectified intil summerbwhen we will likely have a new coach that Sullivan appoints
. Which means high risk we get it wrong yet again
In the immediate term ( this season ) the exising mess will continue with a coach who is trying to implement tactics and a style he doesnt have the squad for. The poor recruitment and squad management and one tactic under Moyed ( Moyesball low block) has left a long shadow that will take a while to shake off without a coach who knows this league well enough to work with the Steidten and get the recruitment right. We did a half arsed job in the summer and the Moyes legacy held us back too as we could not get any money for 3 or 4 of his duds. But, as mentioned, summer recruitment had to be perfect and wasnt in terms of how Lopetegui sets up his teams and the tactics employed.
In my opinion, Wan Bassaka ( wrongly used), Todibo, Kilman and Summerville were good recruits. The young Brazilian was a luxury for us right now. We needed players now even though he might end up being a shrewd buy longer term.
The areas we recruited wrongly and poorly for were central midfield and central striker. To play a game with overlapping, high positioned wing backs and back line, you need legs, pace and strength in central midfield. We dont have a player in the squad with those attributes or that profile. Its the heart of a lot of the problem and why we are regularly conceding 2 or more goals a game. Even yesterday, Wood’s goal is in part due to Mavropanus being matched up against the quick wide man Moreno. Wan Bassaka would have very likely stopped that cross coming in . The poor marking of Woods didnt help but that cross ( yet again a fast counter after Summerville attempted a poor pass outside their box)
Add to that no outlet up front again with pace and strength and allows Bowen to go wide right where he is effective.
obvious to many fans and not rectified intil summerbwhen we will likely have a new coach that Sullivan appoints
. Which means high risk we get it wrong yet again
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I looked back on what kind of formations Lopetegui went with whilst managing Wolves and it's evident he does like to chop and change formations fairly regularly and mostly went with a 433, 4231 and a 442. But as far as I can see never bothered tinkering about with the backline from a back 4 to then playing 3 at the back.
For me he needs to stop fucking about with that for a start as he keeps flitting between the 2 which I never like to see. I think a back 4 works best for us out of the 2 styles then what he wants to do elsewhere fuck about with it. But the Defence (and the rest of the Team for that matter) needs to know what they're doing to get used to it and to build a strong foundation from it. Because so far it's simply not been good enough and he's failing miserably to get a grip of it till now.
The player's in general are not getting what he wants to do and it's clear in their body language, timidly jogging around like they're trying to avoid the missus hearing them get in after a night out on the piss with the lads.
Already Kudus, Alvarez and Paqueta are seriously letting him down after putting big faith in them and they either repay him back sharpish, or if it continues Lopetegui will be launched out the Club. Has Lopetegui been too nice to all of them up to this point, I wonder? Because the discipline, be it petulance or the way they are meant to play has been fucking shocking throughout the Team so far.
I'd give Alvarez, Rodriguez and Paqueta a prolonged stay on the bench and would rather start games with reliable grafters such as Soucek, Irving and Ings now.
I'm still for giving Lopetegui the full season because I'm just not a fan of chopping and changing so quickly after appointing a new manager and want to see it play out as much as possible to see if it does eventually click. Even more so because I just don't fear relegation with how bad the bottom 3 will be and only a change if it's totally fell apart around the turn of the year but we should be fine.
An example of persevering with it when it doesn't at all look good right now is what happened with Pochettino at Chelsea last season. Gash for around 3 quarters of the season then it suddenly clicked in to place and they motored up the League and in real style too. Getting someone in now just smacks of desperation and yet more upheaval to muddy the situation further.
Make no bones about it though, this ain't anywhere near good enough and I'm more of one of his backers. He either drags the player's back on side, or loses the dressing room completely, launched out the door banging on it asking if he can at least open up a new Paella stand outside the ground...
For me he needs to stop fucking about with that for a start as he keeps flitting between the 2 which I never like to see. I think a back 4 works best for us out of the 2 styles then what he wants to do elsewhere fuck about with it. But the Defence (and the rest of the Team for that matter) needs to know what they're doing to get used to it and to build a strong foundation from it. Because so far it's simply not been good enough and he's failing miserably to get a grip of it till now.
The player's in general are not getting what he wants to do and it's clear in their body language, timidly jogging around like they're trying to avoid the missus hearing them get in after a night out on the piss with the lads.
Already Kudus, Alvarez and Paqueta are seriously letting him down after putting big faith in them and they either repay him back sharpish, or if it continues Lopetegui will be launched out the Club. Has Lopetegui been too nice to all of them up to this point, I wonder? Because the discipline, be it petulance or the way they are meant to play has been fucking shocking throughout the Team so far.
I'd give Alvarez, Rodriguez and Paqueta a prolonged stay on the bench and would rather start games with reliable grafters such as Soucek, Irving and Ings now.
I'm still for giving Lopetegui the full season because I'm just not a fan of chopping and changing so quickly after appointing a new manager and want to see it play out as much as possible to see if it does eventually click. Even more so because I just don't fear relegation with how bad the bottom 3 will be and only a change if it's totally fell apart around the turn of the year but we should be fine.
An example of persevering with it when it doesn't at all look good right now is what happened with Pochettino at Chelsea last season. Gash for around 3 quarters of the season then it suddenly clicked in to place and they motored up the League and in real style too. Getting someone in now just smacks of desperation and yet more upheaval to muddy the situation further.
Make no bones about it though, this ain't anywhere near good enough and I'm more of one of his backers. He either drags the player's back on side, or loses the dressing room completely, launched out the door banging on it asking if he can at least open up a new Paella stand outside the ground...
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Mex Martillo
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Fucking desperate.
Clutching for straws. I would still prefer Lopetegui to sort it out, than the pain and mess of lossing more to force the remaining porno to finally act. The circus show goes on.
I wonder what Steidten makes of it all?
Clutching for straws. I would still prefer Lopetegui to sort it out, than the pain and mess of lossing more to force the remaining porno to finally act. The circus show goes on.
I wonder what Steidten makes of it all?
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Manuel wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 04:36 Maybe, the only possible hope we have of getting rid of this bloke is that it gets back to Sullivan that the players aren't motivated, can't understand him etc and it's very unlikely to turn around, or even maybe Lop himself hints this isn't a good fit for him, he walked from Wolves, albeit that was for different reasons of course.
A long shot admittedly, it's more likely we will beat Everton 1-0 and on we go.
I suspect that one of the only ways Sullivan will leave not on his own terms is if the authorities suddenly decide he's not "a fit & proper person" to own a PL football club.
But the authorities will only consider levelling such a charge if West Ham seriously challenge to replace one of the media darlings that are the Big 5/6.
It should be blindingly obvious to everybody now that continuing membership of the PL is enough to satisfy his needs/ego, so while that looks likely (for whatever reasons), he won't ditch his choice of manager.
But the authorities will only consider levelling such a charge if West Ham seriously challenge to replace one of the media darlings that are the Big 5/6.
It should be blindingly obvious to everybody now that continuing membership of the PL is enough to satisfy his needs/ego, so while that looks likely (for whatever reasons), he won't ditch his choice of manager.
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Maybe, the only possible hope we have of getting rid of this bloke is that it gets back to Sullivan that the players aren't motivated, can't understand him etc and it's very unlikely to turn around, or even maybe Lop himself hints this isn't a good fit for him, he walked from Wolves, albeit that was for different reasons of course.
A long shot admittedly, it's more likely we will beat Everton 1-0 and on we go.
A long shot admittedly, it's more likely we will beat Everton 1-0 and on we go.
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eusebiovic wrote: ↑02 Nov 2024, 23:16 Come on Vanessa! For the love of all things good sell 24% to Kretinsky thus making him 51% majority owner.
Do The Right Thing
Kretinsky can fuck off.
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Manuel
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The jury is no longer out, it's done, we're done. We didn't believe last weeks win was a turning point, but there was always hope that it may have been, now we know for sure we just lucked out and it's a one off result. Yesterday's first half performance was a disgrace, we didn't lay a glove on them, the side was all over the place with no desire or hunger, all after another full week on the training ground. Next week he will change it up again, Antonio and Soucek will be back and go back to a back 4. Rinse and repeat.
I wouldn't have this clown managing a load of hungover, fat cunts on a Sunday morning, absolutely clueless and way, way out of his depth. The fact that his English is worse than an immigrant who has just got off a boat doesn't help at all.
So that's it, we're fucked, you may as well thrown your season tickets in the bin 'coz nothing is changing under this fraudster. Over to Sullivan to do the right thing, but we all know how that works.
I wouldn't have this clown managing a load of hungover, fat cunts on a Sunday morning, absolutely clueless and way, way out of his depth. The fact that his English is worse than an immigrant who has just got off a boat doesn't help at all.
So that's it, we're fucked, you may as well thrown your season tickets in the bin 'coz nothing is changing under this fraudster. Over to Sullivan to do the right thing, but we all know how that works.
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Come on Vanessa! For the love of all things good sell 24% to Kretinsky thus making him 51% majority owner.
Do The Right Thing
Do The Right Thing
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The hope then is that Sullivan is fuming that he’s spent a fortune in the transfer window and we’ve become worse
Allowing Lopetegui to manage West Ham is like placing your cock and balls in the hands of a maniac with a pair of scissors
Allowing Lopetegui to manage West Ham is like placing your cock and balls in the hands of a maniac with a pair of scissors
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