The Next West Ham Manager.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Well, El Flop needs fucking off tonight.

Sergio Conceicao isn't working, worth a go?

[RootsRadical]

Oh FFS I'd almost forgotten about Southgate.
Was bad enough him managing England, we'd be the laughing stock of the country.
Think it might just kill my enthusiasm entirely.
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This is why I'm hoping Loppy is given time and will come good.
Failing that I'd accept Potter, he took Brighton as far as any other of their more heralded managers have and started the ball rolling there after they fired Houghton.

 

[stubbo-admin]

Next time is the one time I think we could see Sullivan push for an 'in-work' manager as he'll be feeling like he's fucked up, or push the boat out and go for an actual 'glamour' name (not some faux-glamour name that his new-money psyche can't resist).

But yes, otherwise it will clearly be Southgate.

[WHUDeano]

I might be making this up, but I’m almost certain I have read in the past that it was Gold who pushed for Allardyce & Moyes, where as it was Sullivan who went in for Uncle Avram, Bilic & Pellegrini. In short, Gold was the pragmatist one who chose the old school Englishman, Sullivan was the one who pushed for the foreign glamour name. 

Now obviously there is no Gold, so I’m guessing Sullivan is feeling a bit lost. Who would his old mate have chosen? Southgate I’m guessing would be number 1 choice. Potter would be crazy as his record is actually pretty poor, 30% win record generally in English football (which is why he’s been unemployed for so long - he thinks he’s better than he is). 

Looking at our managerial history, the next choice will be a safe pair of hands (in the eyes of Sullivan), and will obviously be currently without a club. Potter or Southgate, 

it will be Southgate. 

[Takashi Miike]

that would then open the door for Moyes Mk3, the little midget cսnt's ultimate kick in the bollocks, bringing back the jock fraud

Jim White exclusive interview "I never wanted to get rid of David, the fans forced me to"

[RBshorty]

Arsenal’s technical director Edu is off to Forest. They are eyeing Tim with a £90 million cherry on top called Mo Kudus.! And our Glorious Leader is rubbing his mitts. With opportunity of killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

[Massive Attack]

 "high aggression, 'get after them and have a war if needed' football"
We desperately need a couple of these type of players on the pitch, it is a massive problem the lack of leadership on the pitch. 

 

 

 

 

When we do that, they keep getting sent off. 




Fucking north London fanny's.

[claypole]

 "high aggression, 'get after them and have a war if needed' football"
We desperately need a couple of these type of players on the pitch, it is a massive problem the lack of leadership on the pitch. 

[RM10]

Why has he not got a job?

[LJC]

Reading up on Terzic by people that have watched/followed him a lot more than I would ever do, they seem to think he would be a good fit for us in more ways than one…

[stubbo-admin]

He’s gonna go with Terzic.  

Bling factor of having managed a big German club Dortmund and in the Champs league etc. No research into the fan dissatisfaction and Hummels publicly calling out Terzic’s tactics as embarassing and Terzic only getting the gig by default etc

Not that I want a change yet, but Terzic is actually a decent manager. He can also get the best out of top talent and work fine with them beyond Hummels having a sissy fit in winning with young players like Bellingham, Sancho and Haaland. More respected than is bing made out by the bitter old boy Hummels. For another time, maybe he could be worth a realistic try.

Terzic was groomed by Dortmund from a long way out to become their manager.  His style is more 'pragmatic' but that is in reference to the opposition and adapting how aggressive a style to play based on the opponent.

You're also starting to see football move back in this direction.  As we're seeing against us, and the teams that do well vs Spurs...direct counter attck football is the direct antidote to this high line squeeze the pitch keep possession strategy.

My belief is 'West Ham' as a collective don't really care about possession...but want the team to be aggressive out of possession, and direct and thretening in possession, with a sprinkling/smattering of 'flair' along the way.

It's why players like Dicks and Bonds are as reverred as Di Canio and (formerly) Payet.  The Moyes of the first 18-20 months delivered this....we worked hard, ran a lot, and attacked at pace and with strong intention.  He then lost his bottle and became an Alamo merchant.  The snake at itself.

But Lopetegui even when he gets his system right.

The manager that most fits our 'ideals' IMO is Klopp (and Bielsa would have been a close second), and we should be looking for someone that plays that 'style'...not a Pep, slow build dup, Tiki Taka disciple.  High octane, high aggression, 'get after them and have a war if needed' football.

[Massive Attack]

He’s gonna go with Terzic.  

Bling factor of having managed a big German club Dortmund and in the Champs league etc. No research into the fan dissatisfaction and Hummels publicly calling out Terzic’s tactics as embarassing and Terzic only getting the gig by default etc

Not that I want a change yet, but Terzic is actually a decent manager. He can also get the best out of top talent and work fine with them beyond Hummels having a sissy fit in winning with young players like Bellingham, Sancho and Haaland. More respected than is bing made out by the bitter old boy Hummels. For another time, maybe he could be worth a realistic try.

[Texas Iron]

Sullivan…

Once a Barrow Boy Porno…

…always a Barrow Boy Porno mentality…

[Sir Alf]

He’s gonna go with Terzic.  

Bling factor of having managed a big German club Dortmund and in the Champs league etc. No research into the fan dissatisfaction and Hummels publicly calling out Terzic’s tactics as embarassing and Terzic only getting the gig by default etc

[Sir Alf]

His fellow shareholders? Wonder what they know about Sullivans role in appointments and player transfers etc ( agents like Salthouse). Wonder if Kretinski, Tripp, Golds are comfortable with “Napolean” calling the shots and wasting their investments? Or perhaps they just accept that running football clubs is high risk and “these things happen”?  

[GBHammer63]

Sullivan appointed Lopetegui, and it’s not Sullivans money that’s been spent it’s the clubs.

[Sir Alf]

While Sullivan runs the show we’re fvcked. The unadulterated truth. 

[Manuel]

If we're not getting a manager on the up, which we'll have to pay for, then I'd just carry on with the bloke we've got now and save the money.

Yep, may as well as we won't go down anyway. As I've said it use to really irritate me when people use to say who will we get, who would come in, etc, but I can see it's merit now. We ain't going anywhere fast and are competing with Fulham/Palace and Brentford, instead of Spurs/Arsenal and Chelsea.

[Lee Trundle]

If we're not getting a manager on the up, which we'll have to pay for, then I'd just carry on with the bloke we've got now and save the money.

[stubbo-admin]

Sullivan will never hire Potter.  He's (through the usual mouthpieces) been open about the fact he doesn't rate him or his body of work.

There was some talk a week or two back that we were 'sounding out' an unnamed in-work manager via intermediaries, who would be more 'manager' than 'head coach'.  Surely one of Frank or Silva...suspect Frank would be the cheaper of the two.

Other than that you're looking at out of work exclsuing Potter:

- Southgate...even Sullivan would see through the England stuff and look at Middlesbrough I suspect
- Terzic...I suspect would depend if Steitden survives the Lopetegui thing.  Got a feeling Sullivan will throw the baby out with the bathwater, and bin him at the same time as Lopetegui.  He's a blame-layer and deflector after all.
- Conceiceo...no chance.  "No Premier League Experience".
- Moyes...stranger things have happened...but I'd fucking hope not.

He clearly hasn't given the full reigns to Steidten, or this would be a conversation about when Steidten pulls the trigger, not Sullivan.  So would be no surprise to see him throw out the whole model as a failure.  Am sure it will then swiftly follow that Steidten had all manner of deals for players lined up with them being blocked firts by Moyes, and then by Sullivan.  

But remember in all this....Sullivan never takes or accepts blame.  He always looks for a scapegoat.  In this instance, it will be Steidten's recruitment being unsuited to Lopetegui, and as a result him having to change both for a manager that can work with the squad Steidten left behind.  You know it's coming.
 

[Takashi Miike]

Potter is another disaster, for me. Silva or Frank, or just stick with the current clown. With the midget continuing to interfere, it's pretty much irrelevant who's in charge. He's fucking in charge, let the midget be the manager with his lapdog Noble as No2

[Lee Trundle]

Potter has been out of football for over a year and a half.

I wouldn't touch him.

[Sir Alf]

Terzic Im not feeling confident about. Fans were not impressed despite a couple of trophies. Didnt like the football and Hummels called him out on it. Also Dortmund are a “big fish in a smaller bowl” of the Bundesliga. Premiership is a different animal, far more competitive, no easy games, fasyer, more intense, better players due to the money it attracts.

Potter they will go for imo. Not sure about him either but Loppy has lowered the bar so far now he has a half decent chance of being better

[Manuel]

I am not a massive lover of Sullivan and Co. But some people need to get a grip and give him a break.

He has taken some good managers, rightly or wrongly, but they weren't cheap options and has backed them.

TBF Since the Allardyce days they have kept mainly out of the media as well. remember those early days it was like mouth-a-vision, albeit on twitter and talksport

Saturday we lost due to having no back bone and spine, if the manger recruited those players then his fault. But a world cup winning player not able to play a 20 yard pass and putting it out of play just ebfore their goal. Then an absolute cսnt of a mexican running 40 yards away from goal to scythe down someone that was always 5 yards in front of him is just ludicrous.

Say what you like about the way we are playing but I don't think it is fair right now to put that on Sullivans shoulders. Director of football and buying what we all thought was decent summer transfer with close to £200 mill spent, getting a what has been decentish manager then keeping your mouth shut. He has done better than put his money where his mouth now isn't.

 

 

A fair enough post, easy fella. I've never been a Sullivan hater, aside from the ground move (and even that may turn out to have been the right thing to have done) he has always backed managers and been an OK owner in my book. I think only one season outside the top flight, plus a trophy under his stewardship. BUT he had Amorin in his office, fact, and if it's true, and it probably is, he wouldn't stump up the extra for Duran, both of these acts are pretty much unforgiveable, this season and most likely beyond is totally fucked now and I do blame him for it.

[Sir Alf]

Silva would inherit the same squad and deficiencies. But is he more pragmatic and willing to play a less risky system / tactics? Probably but its all academic, Sullivan elevates himself ( as he has no doubt tried to do every second he’s been conscious if his stature ) to some moral or ethical “high ground” insisting that he wont out of “principle” pay conpensation for a manager at another club.   Like he claims the high ground for not sacking managers unless he really has to.

The bloke is the master of self harm. Can anyone list footballing decisions he has got right ( we know he’s done the right thing financially for himself ).  Maybe Lanzini and getting a player or two via Salthouse and agents? I think his mate Mackay ( agent ) helped in getting Kudus ( although he will be gone in the summer)?  But they are not necessarily his choices. So many other punts he made were disaster. And all his managerial preferences have been awful. 

We cannot, its impossible, for sustained, any success under this little man Sullivan. The only success we got was unintended when Moyes was brought in to save us from relegation but achieved a 2 season unexpected run of results which facilitated a 3rd season conference lge trophy (?albeit league form had gone pear shaped early in season 3 as his success was petering out ).

Sullivan is the biggest part of the problam. Its not so much a financial backing thing now. He with Kretinski loans and backing has made good money available. He just cannot keep his hands out of the footballing side of things. Salthouse and Mackay were telling him Duran was not worth the 40 million iirc? And probably that Amourim was a risk and besides he does not pay for managers

Sullivans like the Cearns are the biggest barrier to progress and will probably mean most of us never seeing a sustain period of success. When Sullivan croaks we get Jack and his bro !!  

 

[madeeasy]

I am not a massive lover of Sullivan and Co. But some people need to get a grip and give him a break.

He has taken some good managers, rightly or wrongly, but they weren't cheap options and has backed them.

TBF Since the Allardyce days they have kept mainly out of the media as well. remember those early days it was like mouth-a-vision, albeit on twitter and talksport

Saturday we lost due to having no back bone and spine, if the manger recruited those players then his fault. But a world cup winning player not able to play a 20 yard pass and putting it out of play just ebfore their goal. Then an absolute cսnt of a mexican running 40 yards away from goal to scythe down someone that was always 5 yards in front of him is just ludicrous.

Say what you like about the way we are playing but I don't think it is fair right now to put that on Sullivans shoulders. Director of football and buying what we all thought was decent summer transfer with close to £200 mill spent, getting a what has been decentish manager then keeping your mouth shut. He has done better than put his money where his mouth now isn't.