Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)

[maverick180]

I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

[LJC]

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Weird rumour doing the rounds on the cardigan wearing site that one of their ITKs reckons that Tim is on the verge of leaving but no because of results, recruitment or being pushed out just that he is on the verge and the bloke can’t say anymore than that due to legal reasons.

Yeah I don’t get it either.

Replacing Edu?

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That would have been my guess but they are hinting at something bigger/outside of football but take it all with a pinch of salt. Just thought it was worth mentioning as they all seem to hang on the itk word. Mind you, didn’t they do that with Jinxed or whatever his name was.

[Lee Trundle]

That was almost 10 years ago, scott_d.  I wouldn't be holding my breath if I were you.

For his time at Porto, but the time he last did well was only 2 years ago when he was in a title race with Sevillaz after winning the Europa League Trophy. 

His body of decent work spans 15 years since the days he won shit with Spains youths.

Given the time and lengths you go to to try and prove you're right, I wasn't trying to change your mind there.

[onsideman]

Weird rumour doing the rounds on the cardigan wearing site that one of their ITKs reckons that Tim is on the verge of leaving but no because of results, recruitment or being pushed out just that he is on the verge and the bloke can’t say anymore than that due to legal reasons.

Yeah I don’t get it either.

 

 

Replacing Edu?

[Massive Attack]

That was almost 10 years ago, scott_d.  I wouldn't be holding my breath if I were you.

For his time at Porto, but the time he last did well was only 2 years ago when he was in a title race with Sevillaz after winning the Europa League Trophy. 

His body of decent work spans 15 years since the days he won shit with Spains youths.

[Lee Trundle]

That was almost 10 years ago, scott_d.  I wouldn't be holding my breath if I were you.

[scott_d]

I've noticed a trend with Lopetegui that's followed him during his career in Club management and that is he always starts off with his poorest form at the beginning of his reign before eventually putting together a string of decent results and performances over the course of a full season.

Porto 1st season

- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2 ... rto_season  

Sevilla 1st season
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2 ... _FC_season  

It shows his methods take time to bed in but once they do they produce quality Football and results over the remainder of the season. Sevilla in his 1st season in charge went on to win the Europa League in style whilst beating Roma, Man Utd and Inter Milan in the Final, as well as get them regualrly qualifying for the Champions League in 4th and in a title race in his last full season in charge until injuries hit scuppering his chances. 

Same again in his Porto 1st season, he starts off slow before eventually picking it up 2nd half of the season narrowly missing out on a League title (Porto have only won it 3 times in the past 11 seasons), as well as get knocked out the Champions League Quarter-Final to Guardiolas side, even though he won the 1st Leg tie and reaching the League Cup Semi's.  

So pretty much in every new season he begins, he starts off slowly but once the season progresses, the quality of Football significantly improves, as does the results.  

All I'm saying is give the geezer space and time to sort out what he sees going wrong and to finally mould it into a Team both he and the fans ultimately want which is entertaining quality Football with decent results to go with it.

 

 

Good post MA.
Let's hope it is just taking him time to acclimatise.
Generally happy to give him a bit more time even if it's a bit of a frustrating watch right now.

[Lee Trundle]

I would hope we look for a replacement.

Otherwise we're fucked with Sullivan and Silkman.

[LJC]

Weird rumour doing the rounds on the cardigan wearing site that one of their ITKs reckons that Tim is on the verge of leaving but no because of results, recruitment or being pushed out just that he is on the verge and the bloke can’t say anymore than that due to legal reasons.

Yeah I don’t get it either.

[Russ of the BML]

Maybe as another poster said before we mellow with age Tom.
ALl said that doesn't mean he is above criticism from me and hasn't made mistakes.
I think he's tried to run before he can walk and should have been a bit more pragmatic at first, got to know the squad, get a bit of consistency, build confidence and team spirit and earn their respect.
We're way too open and exposed and it's making some players especially Alvarez look terrible.
We need to be more compact, work harder and stick to the basics, we have enough quality to get results from a solid base.
Then he can gradually implement a different style if he wants to or adapt tactics to suit the opposition. 
Also thought he would have made Kilman captain seeing as he bought him at any cost, not Bowen
I've never been a fan of the best player automatically being the captain, especially if they're an attacker.

Sounds quite sensible. Just to think, some football managers earn millions for doing that. 

[Massive Attack]

He learnt that on kUMB before even they got sick of it and binned the pompous cսnt.

Ahh and as if by uncanny coincidence, the creepy stalker THUNDERCUNT arises.

Notice the deflection when he calls me " creepy stalker" but not a liar. Clearly Not wRong.

[Massive Attack]

I thought you'd appreciate the feedback, just some constructive criticism you lack of sense of humour cսnt  

 

 

Ta, I appreciate the valuable feedback. Although I'd much prefer to debate it. I don't mind a differing opinion and I'm fully aware I'm in the minority wanting him to carry on and just giving my side of the argument as to why. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

I've noticed a trend with your posts.. They're long preachy and boring HTHYC

He learnt that on kUMB before even they got sick of it and binned the pompous cսnt.

Ahh and as if by uncanny coincidence, the creepy stalker THUNDERCUNT arises.

Notice the deflection when he calls me " creepy stalker" but not a liar. Clearly Not wRong.

[fraser]

I thought you'd appreciate the feedback, just some constructive criticism you lack of sense of humour cսnt  

[Massive Attack]

 

I've noticed a trend with your posts.. They're long preachy and boring HTHYC

He learnt that on kUMB before even they got sick of it and binned the pompous cսnt.

Ahh and as if by uncanny coincidence, the creepy stalker THUNDERCUNT arises.

[THUNDERCLINT]

 

I've noticed a trend with your posts.. They're long preachy and boring HTHYC

He learnt that on kUMB before even they got sick of it and binned the pompous cսnt.

[Massive Attack]

I've noticed a trend with Lopetegui that's followed him during his career in Club management and that is he always starts off with his poorest form at the beginning of his reign before eventually putting together a string of decent results and performances over the course of a full season.

Porto 1st season

- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2 ... rto_season  

Sevilla 1st season
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2 ... _FC_season  

It shows his methods take time to bed in but once they do they produce quality Football and results over the remainder of the season. Sevilla in his 1st season in charge went on to win the Europa League in style whilst beating Roma, Man Utd and Inter Milan in the Final, as well as get them regualrly qualifying for the Champions League in 4th and in a title race in his last full season in charge until injuries hit scuppering his chances. 

Same again in his Porto 1st season, he starts off slow before eventually picking it up 2nd half of the season narrowly missing out on a League title (Porto have only won it 3 times in the past 11 seasons), as well as get knocked out the Champions League Quarter-Final to Guardiolas side, even though he won the 1st Leg tie and reaching the League Cup Semi's.  

So pretty much in every new season he begins, he starts off slowly but once the season progresses, the quality of Football significantly improves, as does the results.  

All I'm saying is give the geezer space and time to sort out what he sees going wrong and to finally mould it into a Team both he and the fans ultimately want which is entertaining quality Football with decent results to go with it.

I've noticed a trend with your posts.. They're long preachy and boring HTHYC

Block me then, you poor soul, who's incapable of any real meaningful debate ..

[fraser]

I've noticed a trend with Lopetegui that's followed him during his career in Club management and that is he always starts off with his poorest form at the beginning of his reign before eventually putting together a string of decent results and performances over the course of a full season.

Porto 1st season

- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2 ... rto_season  

Sevilla 1st season
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2 ... _FC_season  

It shows his methods take time to bed in but once they do they produce quality Football and results over the remainder of the season. Sevilla in his 1st season in charge went on to win the Europa League in style whilst beating Roma, Man Utd and Inter Milan in the Final, as well as get them regualrly qualifying for the Champions League in 4th and in a title race in his last full season in charge until injuries hit scuppering his chances. 

Same again in his Porto 1st season, he starts off slow before eventually picking it up 2nd half of the season narrowly missing out on a League title (Porto have only won it 3 times in the past 11 seasons), as well as get knocked out the Champions League Quarter-Final to Guardiolas side, even though he won the 1st Leg tie and reaching the League Cup Semi's.  

So pretty much in every new season he begins, he starts off slowly but once the season progresses, the quality of Football significantly improves, as does the results.  

All I'm saying is give the geezer space and time to sort out what he sees going wrong and to finally mould it into a Team both he and the fans ultimately want which is entertaining quality Football with decent results to go with it.

I've noticed a trend with your posts.. They're long preachy and boring HTHYC

[Massive Attack]

I've noticed a trend with Lopetegui that's followed him during his career in Club management and that is he always starts off with his poorest form at the beginning of his reign before eventually putting together a string of decent results and performances over the course of a full season.

Porto 1st season

- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2 ... rto_season  

Sevilla 1st season
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2 ... _FC_season  

It shows his methods take time to bed in but once they do they produce quality Football and results over the remainder of the season. Sevilla in his 1st season in charge went on to win the Europa League in style whilst beating Roma, Man Utd and Inter Milan in the Final, as well as get them regualrly qualifying for the Champions League in 4th and in a title race in his last full season in charge until injuries hit scuppering his chances. 

Same again in his Porto 1st season, he starts off slow before eventually picking it up 2nd half of the season narrowly missing out on a League title (Porto have only won it 3 times in the past 11 seasons), as well as get knocked out the Champions League Quarter-Final to Guardiolas side, even though he won the 1st Leg tie and reaching the League Cup Semi's.  

So pretty much in every new season he begins, he starts off slowly but once the season progresses, the quality of Football significantly improves, as does the results.  

All I'm saying is give the geezer space and time to sort out what he sees going wrong and to finally mould it into a Team both he and the fans ultimately want which is entertaining quality Football with decent results to go with it.

[goose]

Oh so now you’re going on what might have happened in some desperate attempt to be right?

[Come On You Irons]

You also said we’re gonna get relegated you utter spastic.

Wrong. I stated that we will be battling relegation as long as 'loser Lop' remains in post. I stand by that.

but we’re not battling relegation anymore than Manchester United are.
You also said we’d lose to Man United 4-1.

And we should have been 4-0 down at half time had Manchester United not squandered an array of golden opportunities, one on ones and open goals they created against our pathetic defence.

[Mad Dog]

Bowen as captain is another very poor choice.

He's a great example of hard work, seems to love the club and a good ambassador......

but hes not in the ref's ear, doesn't seem to gee up the players or put an arm around someone.  He didn't address the media after Saturday's shit show.

He's not a leader.

Captaincy isn't for him

[goose]

I can’t see him getting to the end of the season if we carry on the path we are on. Lose to Everton and I reckon he is gone. Rumours of having a manger lined up that is free and been here before but also ticks the glamour box for Sullivan seem to be being reported a little too much.

where would I see those rumours?

I’d say there’s a decent chance Everton turn us over.

[LJC]

I can’t see him getting to the end of the season if we carry on the path we are on. Lose to Everton and I reckon he is gone. Rumours of having a manger lined up that is free and been here before but also ticks the glamour box for Sullivan seem to be being reported a little too much.

[RootsRadical]

Maybe as another poster said before we mellow with age Tom.
ALl said that doesn't mean he is above criticism from me and hasn't made mistakes.
I think he's tried to run before he can walk and should have been a bit more pragmatic at first, got to know the squad, get a bit of consistency, build confidence and team spirit and earn their respect.
We're way too open and exposed and it's making some players especially Alvarez look terrible.
We need to be more compact, work harder and stick to the basics, we have enough quality to get results from a solid base.
Then he can gradually implement a different style if he wants to or adapt tactics to suit the opposition. 
Also thought he would have made Kilman captain seeing as he bought him at any cost, not Bowen
I've never been a fan of the best player automatically being the captain, especially if they're an attacker.

[Tomshardware]

If I mistook you for some other fool on here then apologies COYI.
Thing is you claimed Lop is a loser and a shit manager which judging by his record with Spain at 3 different levels, and his record at Sevilla, plus the job he did in not only keeping Wolves up but getting them above us from a position of rock bottom at Xmas says he isn't a loser.
Even if he fails with us which he hasn't yet it still doesn't mean he's a loser, it just means that it didn't work out with us.
There are plenty of very good managers who have failed at clubs, and plenty who have had one good or bad season followed by a bad or good one.
Even the greatest managers haven't got it right at every club they managed.
He's not going anywhere soon unless something dramatic happens so let's see where we are at the end of the season. 

Who do you think you are posting a sensible balanced post such as this?