NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[Far Cough UKunt]

I pulled this from Wiki about the old Vikings coach, Bud Grant:

Grant required outdoor practice during the winter to get players used to the cold weather and did not allow heaters on the sidelines during games. As per the latter practice it goes that Grant posited that with the heaters present on the sidelines the players would gather around the source of the warmth but if the heaters were not present the players would be paying attention to the game.

That would be at the old Met stadium, not to be confused with the Metrodome which was an indoor stadium.

[southbankbornnbred]

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Steelers/Browns in that blizzard looked wild. Love that kind of game!

Screw all those fairy-weathered Californians and Floridians.



 

YES, the old black and blue division was like that.

Some mad games at Soldier Field, Green Bay, the old outdoor Vikings and Lions stadiums (pre-80s?). Absolute carnage in the snow. Love it.

[Far Cough UKunt]

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Steelers/Browns in that blizzard looked wild. Love that kind of game!

Screw all those fairy-weathered Californians and Floridians.


 

YES, the old black and blue division was like that.

[southbankbornnbred]

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Steelers/Browns in that blizzard looked wild. Love that kind of game!

Screw all those fairy-weathered Californians and Floridians.

[southbankbornnbred]

Yeah, it’s remarkable how - for such a physical and intense sport - NFL players and coaches generally accept the refs’ decisions/flags etc.

It’s not perfect by any means - some clashes do take place. And you do get some very dubious calls by officials (often on pass interference). But generally these 300lb lunatics respect the decisions.

Proper football, which is still the better sport, and it’s prima donnas, could learn a lot from the NFL.

 

[Far Cough UKunt]

Just a general question, when a yellow flag is throw for a foul,infringement etc, has the offending players/ coaches ever acted like a 3 year old kids, as in football, because to me it seems everybody just accepts the refs decision and gets on with it. 

Generally it's accepted but Jerry Glanville the old Houston Oilers coach, used to get into the official's face at times. There's probably others as well, Mike Ditka?

[Gaffer58]

Just a general question, when a yellow flag is throw for a foul,infringement etc, has the offending players/ coaches ever acted like a 3 year old kids, as in football, because to me it seems everybody just accepts the refs decision and gets on with it. 

[Takashi Miike]

[southbankbornnbred]

FWIW, Joe Douglas wasn't the worst GM around and neither was he a good GM. Bang average. We've had worse.

With the exception of the now-infamous Zach Wilson pick, he drafted reasonably well. People keep saying there is talent on the roster. Well, that was the GM's job.

But people keep saying that talent is woefully coached. And they're also saying that the skills position talent is fine - but asking where are the hard mo-fos who dominate in the trenches? And that failure is on the GM, too.

[southbankbornnbred]

The Jets have just fired GM Joe Douglas, btw.

There'll be nobody left in the building soon! Maybe Rodgers is next.

Maybe this is an elaborate experiment, Belgium-style, without any form of leadership?! It can't be any worse than what we had.

[southbankbornnbred]

The field goal fumble against Seattle is a great Romo/Dallas moment.

Don't get me wrong: while I thought he did well for an undrafted free agent, I still wanted Dallas to lose every game they played with him as QB. It's the Jerry Jones factor!

In fact, when Jones later threw that six-year $100m contract at Romo, I felt Jones' mentalism had reached its zenith. Then along came Dak Prescott.

[El Scorchio]

For me he was lauded far far beyond his actual abilities purely because of the team he played for and that he almost always had a stacked offense to work with- particularly a top top O line. No way was he worth the hype. Looks like s stupid grinning shaved monkey as well. He's only got his commentating gig because of who he played for and he cannot help shilling for them every single time. It is true to say that he did a better job than a number of joke players they had in the role prior to him.

Dak Precott is exactly the same. Pretty much bang average but ridiculously talked up because he's a cowboy.

This is my fondest memory of Tony Romo.



 

Scorch - I’ve said this before on this very thread. That was my first ever NFL game live and I was surrounded by all the Cowboys fans I worked with that we’d flown up with, confirmed me as a Seahawk for life. Bought my, now framed, Walter Jones shirt on the way out

That, sir is a wonderful story! I love it.

[Joe C]

For me he was lauded far far beyond his actual abilities purely because of the team he played for and that he almost always had a stacked offense to work with- particularly a top top O line. No way was he worth the hype. Looks like s stupid grinning shaved monkey as well. He's only got his commentating gig because of who he played for and he cannot help shilling for them every single time. It is true to say that he did a better job than a number of joke players they had in the role prior to him.

Dak Precott is exactly the same. Pretty much bang average but ridiculously talked up because he's a cowboy.

This is my fondest memory of Tony Romo.


 

Scorch - I’ve said this before on this very thread. That was my first ever NFL game live and I was surrounded by all the Cowboys fans I worked with that we’d flown up with, confirmed me as a Seahawk for life. Bought my, now framed, Walter Jones shirt on the way out

[El Scorchio]

For me he was lauded far far beyond his actual abilities purely because of the team he played for and that he almost always had a stacked offense to work with- particularly a top top O line. No way was he worth the hype. Looks like s stupid grinning shaved monkey as well. He's only got his commentating gig because of who he played for and he cannot help shilling for them every single time. It is true to say that he did a better job than a number of joke players they had in the role prior to him.

Dak Precott is exactly the same. Pretty much bang average but ridiculously talked up because he's a cowboy.

This is my fondest memory of Tony Romo.

 

[southbankbornnbred]

I had to whisper it, but I liked Romo purely as a QB.

It was based entirely on the fact that he was an undrafted free agent who had a long and relatively impressive NFL career. Which, let's face it, is quite unusual for a QB these days.

I enjoyed it all the more because the Girls had tried in vain to spend big money on QBs and needless draft picks after Aikman (Bledsoe, Carter, Hutchison, Henson, Testaverde etc) - and the only relatively reliable guy they found was an undrafted bloke who had the luxury of spending a couple of years on the sidelines, in obscurity, learning the playbook etc. In that respect, he's the antithesis of a Jerry Jones player.

Don't get me wrong, he's turned into an enormous jock. And he was never a top-notch QB - always falling short when it mattered. I just liked the fact that Jones tried and failed to buy in another Aikman repeatedly (usually by going after QBs more suited to baseball), and then got shown how to do it by some untried bloke.

[southbankbornnbred]

Jerry Jones' ego is the problem for them and the blessing for everyone else. Bloke wants the be the centre of attention all the time- weekly appearances on the radio station he owns etc. His ego couldn't handle Jimmy Johnson being the hero and he's never recovered from that act of hubris.
I love that they believe their own hype year after year and it always ends in failure.

No moment sweeter than in 2008 when out of arrogance he left the 2 NFC championship game tickets in each of his players lockers prior to the game before, when they thought they were a cert to beat the Giants at home in the divisional round. He admitted he cried after the game.



Also TO crying in his press conference afterwards when before the game he'd said 'get your popcorn ready', and Wade Phillips not even learning his lesson by saying in the following offseason 'get your ring fingers ready' before they missed the playoffs.

They are the gift that keeps on giving.

Oh and Tony Romo was a cսnt and is still a fucking nauseating homer cսnt on commentary

All this and more. 

[El Scorchio]

Jerry Jones' ego is the problem for them and the blessing for everyone else. Bloke wants the be the centre of attention all the time- weekly appearances on the radio station he owns etc. His ego couldn't handle Jimmy Johnson being the hero and he's never recovered from that act of hubris.
I love that they believe their own hype year after year and it always ends in failure.

No moment sweeter than in 2008 when out of arrogance he left the 2 NFC championship game tickets in each of his players lockers prior to the game before, when they thought they were a cert to beat the Giants at home in the divisional round. He admitted he cried after the game.



Also TO crying in his press conference afterwards when before the game he'd said 'get your popcorn ready', and Wade Phillips not even learning his lesson by saying in the following offseason 'get your ring fingers ready' before they missed the playoffs.

They are the gift that keeps on giving.

Oh and Tony Romo was a cսnt and is still a fucking nauseating homer cսnt on commentary

[Joe C]

The guy is the most toxic owner in the NFL. Not the worst - that's now the reserve of our genuinely clueless lot - but certainly the most toxic.


 

Browns fans will tell you they have both.  Admittedly you need to find one

[Takashi Miike]

that recent story about Ceedee Lamb not being able to see the ball because of the stadium design letting in light, I noticed that years ago. It's a circus

[RBshorty]

Everybody loves Jones. The owners do. Because he show them how too fleece the fanbase for as much as possible. The media love him. Because he guaranteed to get eyes on screen's. And his own fans love him because it's all Razzle, Dazzle. Long may he rein.!


Go G Men.!

[Far Cough UKunt]

I really liked Tom Landry when he was there, proper old school coach, with a titfer.

[southbankbornnbred]

his son or daughter takes over if and when he goes, so nothing changes for a long time yet. I just don't see any other league GM/Owner behaving this way, constantly wanting to be the centre of attention, then handing over $60m a year to that QB

Haha! The Prescott contract was astonishing for a QB who is so bang-average.

That's what I love about the Girls under Jones: they massively overspend on underachievers. Keeps them down!

[Takashi Miike]

his son or daughter takes over if and when he goes, so nothing changes for a long time yet. I just don't see any other league GM/Owner behaving this way, constantly wanting to be the centre of attention, then handing over $60m a year to that QB

[southbankbornnbred]

This is the guy who, through pure unadulterated ego and nothing else, got rid of an excellent head coach, Jimmy Johnson, who'd turned the Cowboys from perennial 1980s failures into a dominant force.

We don't want that again.

Let Jones keep going. I'm going to write to him to say how great he is...and that I hope he finds the fountain of youth...

[southbankbornnbred]

I genuinely don't want Jerry Jones to stop doing what he does.

The guy is the most toxic owner in the NFL. Not the worst - that's now the reserve of our genuinely clueless lot - but certainly the most toxic.

Just let him keep over-interfering: it ensures the 'Girls remain woeful!

"Keep going, Jerry: you're doing great..."