Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)

[maverick180]

I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

[Massive Attack]

“Loser Lop” wins another game.
COYI won’t be seen for a while.

Hopefully he'll fuck off to KUMB for good along with so many of the other know nothing muppets on there so desperate for Lopetegui to fail  such was their Moyes derangement syndrome going on...

"BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR, WEST HAM FANS!"

[goose]

“Loser Lop” wins another game.
COYI won’t be seen for a while.

[Massive Attack]

Not quite sure what Leicester have been expecting as a newly promoted side with a new manager from last season
Was reading they talked to Potter when they decided on Cooper & might go back to him

And if they did turn to Moyes, the quality of Football would still be the same as under Cooper there. It was identical shit pragmatic defensive Football but about their level. 

[Fauxstralian]

Not quite sure what Leicester have been expecting as a newly promoted side with a new manager from last season
Was reading they talked to Potter when they decided on Cooper & might go back to him

[nychammer]

Strange move by Leicester after 12 games. Where did they expect they’d be exactly ? You can’t compare their situation and ours. Our expectation is top half and we’re failing miserably, we’d be well justified acting in January if we’re in the bottom 6, at Leicester you’d have given cooper more time 

[Keep dreaming]

Would absolutely take Cooper.

Really?
What about him replacing JoL then?

[,]

Decisive by Leicester versus procrastination and dithering as usual by Sullivan.  

Proaction vs reaction. History shows waiting too long normally spells disaster.  


 

Sir Alf, how far up the league does a team need to be before you think there is no need for a knee jerk manager/coach replacement?

Should all the teams below us be changing?

[Pshyco scored all 4]

Id rather dig up Tommy cooper.     At some point the fanbase has to have more ambition. it's playing into the dwarfs little hands .

[Sir Alf]

Decisive by Leicester versus procrastination and dithering as usual by Sullivan.  

Proaction vs reaction. History shows waiting too long normally spells disaster.  

 

[Mad Ferret]

Would absolutely take Cooper.

[goose]

Will be interesting to see what happens if Leicester approach Terzic.

[northbankboy68]

You can bet your money on Leicester acting to sign a new manager before we do.  We will let them have first pick of replacements - you watch.

[,]

Steve Cooper is now free to take over from jalopy.  

[Pshyco scored all 4]

Nope he's going to act . The new premier league regulator coming  is going to force him out . He needs to ensure whufc is still a club worth  about £1 billion . Would be worth way more under proper ownership.  

[Manuel]

''Journalists ask those questions for the top clubs but not for us.''


Yea, I've noticed that too. I suppose it's just a lack of interest, i.e your average journo won't care why Antonio starts instead of Ings, or why Rodders is starting ahead of Soucek.

[threesixty]

But I fear we will lose and we won’t have better football. He lost the players by consistently getting the tactics wrong and now it’s too late no matter what he tries. 

I dunno, I'm not sure anyone would change our fortunes tbh. He's probably the person we would have got in to fix what is going on now anyways. I think Moyes really fucked up this club in a lot of ways tbh. He managed to pick the most "non footballing" footballers week in and week out and embedded a shitty type of football that any coach will struggle to get rid of in a few months.

I think I'd be prepared to stick with him and give him a Jan window to fix our problems with his preferred players and only panic if in Feb we look like we could get relegated. I dont believe Potter because what happened at Chelsea showed me he cant do the work under pressure. Terzic is more of the same Moyes stuff its seems, defensive blah blah

Maybe Will Still or some young coach he believes in possession and wants to make a name for themselves may work. Dont want to go back to bad football.

I just want to know who made the decision to get Fullkrug instead of Duran and then ended up using Antonio instead of Ings to deputise for Fullkrug? Like, who planned that shit?

This is exactly the point - it Lotepegue’s call to use the hapless Antonio rather than Ings. His call to use Paqueta too far up the field where his usefulness is minimised. His call to give sides the run of the deep flanks and his call to play a high line without using the available space or closing down the opposition quick enough. While watching the Moyes sides was mind-numbingly bad, this cսnt has actually contrived to make it worse. And it’s going to get even worserer! 

yeah, fair point. He had made some baffling decisions for someone who has watched the squad for months and had a preseason. I just wish journalists would ask him to explain why? So maybe I can give him the benefit of the doubt as I could understand what was going on in is head.

If I was Roshane at the Athletic I'd simply ask if Lopetgui considers Ings is a more similar player to Fulkrug, and if we expect to play Fulkrug if he is fit, why isnt he Ings playing as deputy? Antonio is a completely different type of player to both Fulkrug and Ings. So what is your preferred style of play?

Journalists ask those questions for the top clubs but not for us. I dont ever understand press conferences before matches because they never ask any serious questions.

[Hammer and Pickle]

If we see any evidence of better more fluid football, but still lose, do we still want to get rid of him?
Or if we win playing counter attack football with low possession and low block etc, will we say we have turned the corner?

But I fear we will lose and we won’t have better football. He lost the players by consistently getting the tactics wrong and now it’s too late no matter what he tries. 

I dunno, I'm not sure anyone would change our fortunes tbh. He's probably the person we would have got in to fix what is going on now anyways. I think Moyes really fucked up this club in a lot of ways tbh. He managed to pick the most "non footballing" footballers week in and week out and embedded a shitty type of football that any coach will struggle to get rid of in a few months.

I think I'd be prepared to stick with him and give him a Jan window to fix our problems with his preferred players and only panic if in Feb we look like we could get relegated. I dont believe Potter because what happened at Chelsea showed me he cant do the work under pressure. Terzic is more of the same Moyes stuff its seems, defensive blah blah

Maybe Will Still or some young coach he believes in possession and wants to make a name for themselves may work. Dont want to go back to bad football.

I just want to know who made the decision to get Fullkrug instead of Duran and then ended up using Antonio instead of Ings to deputise for Fullkrug? Like, who planned that shit?

This is exactly the point - it Lotepegue’s call to use the hapless Antonio rather than Ings. His call to use Paqueta too far up the field where his usefulness is minimised. His call to give sides the run of the deep flanks and his call to play a high line without using the available space or closing down the opposition quick enough. While watching the Moyes sides was mind-numbingly bad, this cսnt has actually contrived to make it worse. And it’s going to get even worserer! 

[nychammer]

We will be beaten witthout a whimper Monday and Sullivan will do nothing.  The only certainty.  We all know it ?

One hundred percent. Won’t do anything this side of Christmas and even so we’d have to be looking fit for the drop for Sullivan to act, otherwise cannot see it 

[nychammer]

We take the same approach with signing up players and managers. Sound out the decent ones, then once engaged duly piss them off with BS and hard ball negotiation tactics and subsequently end up paying over the odds for misfits, lesser talents or out of work mercenaries who need a pay day. Amorim and Duran spring to mind. 

[threesixty]

If we see any evidence of better more fluid football, but still lose, do we still want to get rid of him?
Or if we win playing counter attack football with low possession and low block etc, will we say we have turned the corner?

But I fear we will lose and we won’t have better football. He lost the players by consistently getting the tactics wrong and now it’s too late no matter what he tries. 

I dunno, I'm not sure anyone would change our fortunes tbh. He's probably the person we would have got in to fix what is going on now anyways. I think Moyes really fucked up this club in a lot of ways tbh. He managed to pick the most "non footballing" footballers week in and week out and embedded a shitty type of football that any coach will struggle to get rid of in a few months.

I think I'd be prepared to stick with him and give him a Jan window to fix our problems with his preferred players and only panic if in Feb we look like we could get relegated. I dont believe Potter because what happened at Chelsea showed me he cant do the work under pressure. Terzic is more of the same Moyes stuff its seems, defensive blah blah

Maybe Will Still or some young coach he believes in possession and wants to make a name for themselves may work. Dont want to go back to bad football.

I just want to know who made the decision to get Fullkrug instead of Duran and then ended up using Antonio instead of Ings to deputise for Fullkrug? Like, who planned that shit?

[goose]

All things considered I'd offer it to Potter, anyone who we can attract will be a risk to an extent, but see him as the least. if we fuck the next one up we could be truly fucked for years.

That's why we should have stuck with Moyes - safe pair of hands!

What exactly was safe about 4 wins in his last 19 games and 74 goals conceded in 38 games?

[Sir Alf]

We will be beaten witthout a whimper Monday and Sullivan will do nothing.  The only certainty.  We all know it ?

[Hammer and Pickle]

If we see any evidence of better more fluid football, but still lose, do we still want to get rid of him?
Or if we win playing counter attack football with low possession and low block etc, will we say we have turned the corner?

But I fear we will lose and we won’t have better football. He lost the players by consistently getting the tactics wrong and now it’s too late no matter what he tries. 

[threesixty]

If we see any evidence of better more fluid football, but still lose, do we still want to get rid of him?
Or if we win playing counter attack football with low possession and low block etc, will we say we have turned the corner?

[Ladysmith]

All things considered I'd offer it to Potter, anyone who we can attract will be a risk to an extent, but see him as the least. if we fuck the next one up we could be truly fucked for years.

That's why we should have stuck with Moyes - safe pair of hands!