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I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask
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twoleftfeet wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 07:45 In some defence apparently his father is really ill so maybe he will make the decision before Sullivan.
So fucking what, everyone's parents get sick when a child reaches Lop's age. Just fuck the fraudster off.
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southbankbornnbred wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 07:43
Massive Attack" wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 06:32
Texas Iron" wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 04:04 Lopetegui has no idea how to set up for each opponent and game situation…

Initial setup has been wrong in most games and he changes it every time.

Seems like he has little knowledge of his opponents before the game starts…

Sullivan has landed a dud and could be disastrous…

Hopefully he can scrape up an average of a point a game to keep us in the Prem…

And to think we might have had Amorim…
This is what's fucked me off most about Lopetegui and his persistent changing of the Formation and Team. Now I can excuse some of his changes that are forced upon him but other times I can't. 

Up at Newcastle he finally settled on a convincing 433 Formation that suited his style and the player's we have. It worked so well by making us a lot more solid at the back giving us a foothold in the game, before then being able to play on the ball as well as we did. We won the midfield by being compact. Then he goes and plays a 4231 which just doesn't suit us with gaps all over the park when we aint attacking. He should have stuck to what worked.

You can't then blame the player's for being so confused when everything keeps changing, especially when we get suspensions and injuries to key player's. 

The other thing I don't like is this suicide highline when you've got a changing makeshift defence. Mavropanos is a constant liability getting caught out time and again, Wan-Bissaka had to play in Emersons position due to carrying a knock and yet he sets us up with a high line up to the halfway line giving them little chance to prevent counters in behind. The balance up at Newcastle was just about right. 

And yes, Amorim was the one we should have got all along but Sullivan can't help himself dicking about. 


Also, don’t rule out just how poor Newcastle were, Massive. A colleague of mine is a Geordie, and said that’s the worst they’ve played at home for a couple of seasons. They had a terrible day against us, including playing a couple who were limping along with injuries.
Who was limping along with injuries? Not that we haven't ourselves with the likes of Todibo regularly pulling up himself during games, including at Newcastle. Newcastle had also just come off the back of convincingly beating Arsenal, Chelsea and Forest before playing us.

 By all means criticise when we do get it wrong but not when it does go right by making excuses it was down to the opposition, not us.
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I wouldn’t let him anywhere near another transfer window. He shouldn’t have been anywhere near the job in the first place. I could think of 100 managers I’d have turned to before Lopetegui.
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In some defence apparently his father is really ill so maybe he will make the decision before Sullivan.
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Lopetegui is a bottom half manager signing bottom half players for over-inflated prices. It’s that simple.
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Massive Attack" wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 06:32
Texas Iron" wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 04:04 Lopetegui has no idea how to set up for each opponent and game situation…

Initial setup has been wrong in most games and he changes it every time.

Seems like he has little knowledge of his opponents before the game starts…

Sullivan has landed a dud and could be disastrous…

Hopefully he can scrape up an average of a point a game to keep us in the Prem…

And to think we might have had Amorim…
This is what's fucked me off most about Lopetegui and his persistent changing of the Formation and Team. Now I can excuse some of his changes that are forced upon him but other times I can't. 

Up at Newcastle he finally settled on a convincing 433 Formation that suited his style and the player's we have. It worked so well by making us a lot more solid at the back giving us a foothold in the game, before then being able to play on the ball as well as we did. We won the midfield by being compact. Then he goes and plays a 4231 which just doesn't suit us with gaps all over the park when we aint attacking. He should have stuck to what worked.

You can't then blame the player's for being so confused when everything keeps changing, especially when we get suspensions and injuries to key player's. 

The other thing I don't like is this suicide highline when you've got a changing makeshift defence. Mavropanos is a constant liability getting caught out time and again, Wan-Bissaka had to play in Emersons position due to carrying a knock and yet he sets us up with a high line up to the halfway line giving them little chance to prevent counters in behind. The balance up at Newcastle was just about right. 

And yes, Amorim was the one we should have got all along but Sullivan can't help himself dicking about. 


Also, don’t rule out just how poor Newcastle were, Massive. A colleague of mine is a Geordie, and said that’s the worst they’ve played at home for a couple of seasons. They had a terrible day against us, including playing a couple who were limping along with injuries.
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Eight goals conceded in two games?

Sullivan, you cսnt, fuck him off now and when he fucks off, you can fuck off as well.

 
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Coufal is a shocking footballer, I can't believe the level of hero worship he gets. How many times when going forward does he stop, cuts back and plays the ball to a central defender. He was wide open for their 2nd goal, he's so fucking slow in his head. Looks about 50 to boot
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I expected the bloke to be shit, but not this level of shit. 

He'll likely win against Wolves and limp on a little longer. 

He's lost the away support now though. I thought he may last the season but I reckon I might have that wrong 
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If he was so fixated on resting Emerson, it was the perfect game to bring in Scarles but no. Instead he puts possibly our most in form player out of position at LB, then has a slow Coufal up against Leicester's quickest winger. At one stage he sat on the bench with his head in his hands, he's supposed to be inspiring the players, not fucking depressing them
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Texas Iron" wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 04:04 Lopetegui has no idea how to set up for each opponent and game situation…

Initial setup has been wrong in most games and he changes it every time.

Seems like he has little knowledge of his opponents before the game starts…

Sullivan has landed a dud and could be disastrous…

Hopefully he can scrape up an average of a point a game to keep us in the Prem…

And to think we might have had Amorim…
This is what's fucked me off most about Lopetegui and his persistent changing of the Formation and Team. Now I can excuse some of his changes that are forced upon him but other times I can't. 

Up at Newcastle he finally settled on a convincing 433 Formation that suited his style and the player's we have. It worked so well by making us a lot more solid at the back giving us a foothold in the game, before then being able to play on the ball as well as we did. We won the midfield by being compact. Then he goes and plays a 4231 which just doesn't suit us with gaps all over the park when we aint attacking. He should have stuck to what worked.

You can't then blame the player's for being so confused when everything keeps changing, especially when we get suspensions and injuries to key player's. 

The other thing I don't like is this suicide highline when you've got a changing makeshift defence. Mavropanos is a constant liability getting caught out time and again, Wan-Bissaka had to play in Emersons position due to carrying a knock and yet he sets us up with a high line up to the halfway line giving them little chance to prevent counters in behind. The balance up at Newcastle was just about right. 

And yes, Amorim was the one we should have got all along but Sullivan can't help himself dicking about. 


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I didn’t have a clue what he was saying when interviewed afterwards .
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So fucking depressing this club. 2 years of dogshit football under Moyes, we eventually have a chance to appoint someone to take us forward, and our cսnt of an owner completely fucks it up, and brings in someone even worse. 
We need Lopetegui gone. He was totally uninspiring and the wrong choice, thanks to Sullivan. 
Problem is, who actually thinks he is capable of finding the right manager/coach now? Not me. 
We should be sacking Lopetegui now, and fuck bringing in some short term replacement. Bring in a younger, forward thinking man now, give him the rest of the season, and 2 transfer windows plus a full pre season to get us ready for next season. But we all know that this won’t happen because it will cost money to sack Lopetegui and Sullivan won’t pay it. So we’re stuck with this fucking imposter. 
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Texas Iron" wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 04:04 Lopetegui has no idea how to set up for each opponent and game situation…

Initial setup has been wrong in most games and he changes it every time.

Seems like he has little knowledge of his opponents before the game starts…

Sullivan has landed a dud and could be disastrous…

Hopefully he can scrape up an average of a point a game to keep us in the Prem…

And to think we might have had Amorim…
We'll NEVER have the right man because the right men cost money and the dipstick at the top wont pay top money for players or managers. If Lop goes then who? knowing Sullivan it'll be another yes man like Steve Bruce. SULLIVAN is our real problem and until he goes it wont matter much who the manager is. 
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Lopetegui has no idea how to set up for each opponent and game situation…

Initial setup has been wrong in most games and he changes it every time.

Seems like he has little knowledge of his opponents before the game starts…

Sullivan has landed a dud and could be disastrous…

Hopefully he can scrape up an average of a point a game to keep us in the Prem…

And to think we might have had Amorim…
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Appointing a temp is essentially writing the season off, but since we are firmly entrenched in the bottom half and have Villa away in the FA cup, the season is all but done anyway. We used to come down with the decs, now we don't even reach that long sometimes.
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Sydney_Iron wrote: 04 Dec 2024, 00:15 Bilic or anyone on a temp won't happen and maybe a pointless thing to do anyway, also factor in the board had how long to find a replacement for Moyes? 



 
 
 
Sullivan the stupid dithering cսnt fucked up the Amorim appointment when he wanted to come.
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bilic is probably the worst option that i'd actually be really happy with despite the absolute certainty that it would end in him getting bird for assaulting a billionaire pensioner.
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Bilic or anyone on a temp won't happen and maybe a pointless thing to do anyway, also factor in the board had how long to find a replacement for Moyes? And still managed to fuck it up with this Spanish fraud! A temp won't help the search they surely have candidates available now, Potter for example.

All very depressing really, but let's hope he's gone soon, every man and his dog can see his time is up, but will the board???

 
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Like Slav the man but he has no track record of success does he? Hardly an up and coming. appointment. Oh wait,,, Sully might be interested then
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stubbo-admin wrote: 03 Dec 2024, 23:21
wils wrote: 03 Dec 2024, 23:16
goose wrote: 03 Dec 2024, 22:39 They’ve already started working on his replacement, it’ll be Terzic I’m sure.
Heard Bilic warned him off becuase of Sullivan.
Who did you hear that through Wils?
Heard it word of mouth to be fair, but having just googled it I can see it's off the social media rumour mill. So yeah, pinch of salt.
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Sydney_Iron wrote: 03 Dec 2024, 23:09
Manuel wrote: 03 Dec 2024, 22:17 He's gone and he knows it.

Would anyone take Bilic until the summer?
Bilic is an interesting suggestion, I do like him and was a shame it went pear shaped with us, but im IN on Bilic as a temporary appointment, if it works then would not be adverse to him getting the job again.

Wont happen though🤤
No it won't.
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Terzic has only had success at Dortmund hasnt he?  Ok its something but arent they one of the stronger outfits in Germany over recent years anyway?  We need someone who shows they can turn struggling teams into much better ones?  That said, Sullivan knows him so that will be enough to approve his appointment and the bling of managing Doetmund makes it a “shoe in”.  Razzle dazzle !!!
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wils wrote: 03 Dec 2024, 23:16
Heard Bilic warned him off becuase of Sullivan.
 
 
 
That doesn't make sense as Terzic was Bilic's assistant when he was at West Ham and would know first hand about what Sullivan is like.
 
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stubbo-admin wrote: 03 Dec 2024, 23:21
wils wrote: 03 Dec 2024, 23:16
goose wrote: 03 Dec 2024, 22:39 They’ve already started working on his replacement, it’ll be Terzic I’m sure.
Heard Bilic warned him off becuase of Sullivan.
Who did you hear that through Wils?
The voices in his head.
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