Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)

[maverick180]

I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

[Lee Trundle]

He's a bang average Premier League centre back.

£40m was always too much.  Giving him a 7 (SEVEN) year contract is mental.

[southbankbornnbred]

Couple of mates have pointed out that while I'm critical of Kilman, a few of the other summer signings have been far worse. This is true. Guilherme (simply not ready), Rodriguez, Fullcrock (so far). We wasted a huge amount of money on transfers, wages and signing-on fees by our standards.

For the record, I think Kilman is "OK" and he definitely has decent games (as well as poor games where his lack of pace is exposed). I just don't think he's worth close to the £40m we paid. But that's on Lopetegui.

 

[Ron Eff]

Ron Eff

Your’s is a shit argument you mean. One bad transfer window that cost us 3 or 4 league places and your only answer is to fire the manager? A manager that has been giving you European football?  We still finished with  52 points, let’s see how many we get under your master plan?
You have no idea what happened during the disastrous January window and have no idea who is to blame for what happened.

And to try and swerve full responsibility because they didn’t select the manager you wanted is even more disingenuous. 
You wanted Moyes out at all costs, it was never conditional.
 


Do fuck off!

 

 

What are you talking about you idiot?

I wanted Moyes out for a couple of reasons. One, as a paying punter, I had lost all enthusiasm to even go such was the entertainment value. Two, you might accept point one of the results were good, but they were atrocious. 

I didn’t want him sacked when the results were ok. So it was conditional. 

I have no idea what you are banging on about with the transfer window. All I know is he achieved his three year obsession of signing Kalvin Phillips.

Don’t pretend the results were only bad for 5 months. 

[Any Old Iron]

Whenever I see El Lop now I’m reminded of Nigel Farages insult to the president of the EU having ‘all the charisma of a damp rag’. 
The bloke has nothing about him that smacks of leadership.  Fuck knows why Sullivan hired him. 
I think we should hand over the choice of next manager to the ‘Czech sphynx’. With Sullivans terrible record he couldn’t make a worse job of it.

[stubbo]

Rossal,
People wanted Moyes out no matter what, why are you lying?

 

 

I'd certainly agree that some did for sure. Not all but plenty did.

Frankly if we finished 17th, playing as we did last night, and then strengthened again to give more the players needed to play his way, I'd take that over having kept Moyes. We played football last night you'd never have seen under Moyes. But our defence is appalling.

I think this is all mostly down to not having the midfield he needs to control the game. Maybe a club at our level can't get the level of players required for that? Or maybe he needs another Summer window to bring in the type of player needed.  Not convinced we have time to find out, but Nothing would make me want Moyes of the last 24 months of his reign back. 

[Rossal]

Rossal,
People wanted Moyes out no matter what, why are you lying?
 

Yeah and they were right to think that.  34 defeats in 72 league games 

tactics and coaching shit 

leaking goals 

shite football to watch 

took the team backwards  

can go on and on....

[Nutsin]

Rossal,
People wanted Moyes out no matter what, why are you lying?

[Rossal]

Ron Eff

Your’s is a shit argument you mean. One bad transfer window that cost us 3 or 4 league places and your only answer is to fire the manager? A manager that has been giving you European football?  We still finished with  52 points, let’s see how many we get under your master plan?
You have no idea what happened during the disastrous January window and have no idea who is to blame for what happened.

And to try and swerve full responsibility because they didn’t select the manager you wanted is even more disingenuous. 
You wanted Moyes out at all costs, it was never conditional.
 


Do fuck off!

But thats the whole point, this isnt anyone but Sullivans 'master plan' 

Fans wanted Amorim, fans wanted Potter, fans wanted Will Still, fants wanted Thomas Frank 

All of which would be light years ahead of Moyes and Lopetegui in every department. Its really not hard to see. 

[Mad Ferret]

[Rossal]

i'd say the league form across a two year period is the proof.

 

 

 

And the throwing of cups, Liverpool away at Anfield with 6k up there 5 days before Christmas was unforgiveable. 

Then he followed that up few weeks later letting Bristol City knock us out of the FA Cup. 

Conference bought him way to much time, the last two seasons were fucking painful. 

Nutsin talks about 'up until Christmas' well why not discuss after it when talking about if his time was up.  6 against Arsenal, 5 against Palace, 5 against Chelsea, 4 up at Toon. 

[Nutsin]

Ron Eff

Your’s is a shit argument you mean. One bad transfer window that cost us 3 or 4 league places and your only answer is to fire the manager? A manager that has been giving you European football?  We still finished with  52 points, let’s see how many we get under your master plan?
You have no idea what happened during the disastrous January window and have no idea who is to blame for what happened.

And to try and swerve full responsibility because they didn’t select the manager you wanted is even more disingenuous. 
You wanted Moyes out at all costs, it was never conditional.
 


Do fuck off!

[Tomshardware]

No-one cares what you have to say goose, you’re one of the fuckwits.This one is for all the retired fuckwits.

where were Westham in the table last Christmas Eve?

Ill wait for an honest answer to my question.

Then look at the points tally compared to what we have today and for fun we can also look at it again Christmas Eve for a comparison.

we can also look at the points we had at the end of last season  and compare to what we have at the end of this season too if you like.

We have taken a massive step backward. I can’t make it any easier for you retards. It is obvious that getting rid of Moyes was a mistake. So quick to demonize the man that brought us the only success in 50 years you fucking bunch of thick cunts.

 

you cant just pick a point midway through last season as your proof he should have stayed. There was a second half to the season which he was also responsible for.

Over two full seasons we just weren't very good. That's why he was let go.

No point trying to reason with someone who still wants Moyes.

[twoleftfeet]

I keep logging just to see if this thread has been updated to

Lopetegui - gone, confirmed

I live in Hope.

[Ron Eff]

I wish the two things were spoken about in isolation. I’m sick the death of talking about Moyes but there are still abject pundits and braindead West Ham fans that feel the need to compare like it was a choice of one or the other. 

In isolation, an absolutely shit start to the season with a manager who looks like he’s lost the plot. Well done to those who predicted it, a shame for those who, while he wasn’t their first choice, were hopeful (desperate?) for it to be a success. Of which I’m probably one. 

Also in isolation, an absolutely shit last season+. Especially the back end of last season. Abysmal. European competitions papered so many cracks. 

If we must compare, 4 wins in the last 19 league games last season from January onwards, 6 goals conceded to Arsenal, 5-apiece shipped to Chelsea and Palace, 4 to Newcastle, 3 to Man United. Draws with two of the relegated clubs. Versus a fairly similar situation this season with 4 wins in the first 14 games. 

We also went out of the cup to Bristol City during that period.

Changing manager was right. The replacement was wrong. It’s as simple as that. Reinventing history with a positive outlook on Moyes form and his defensive solidity is the mark of a moron. You just need to look at some data to realise it’s a shit argument. 

[goose]

No-one cares what you have to say goose, you’re one of the fuckwits.This one is for all the retired fuckwits.

where were Westham in the table last Christmas Eve?

Ill wait for an honest answer to my question.

Then look at the points tally compared to what we have today and for fun we can also look at it again Christmas Eve for a comparison.

we can also look at the points we had at the end of last season  and compare to what we have at the end of this season too if you like.

We have taken a massive step backward. I can’t make it any easier for you retards. It is obvious that getting rid of Moyes was a mistake. So quick to demonize the man that brought us the only success in 50 years you fucking bunch of thick cunts.

 

 

you cant just pick a point midway through last season as your proof he should have stayed. There was a second half to the season which he was also responsible for.

Over two full seasons we just weren't very good. That's why he was let go.

[fraser]

No-one cares what you have to say goose, you’re one of the fuckwits.This one is for all the retired fuckwits.

where were Westham in the table last Christmas Eve?

Ill wait for an honest answer to my question.

Then look at the points tally compared to what we have today and for fun we can also look at it again Christmas Eve for a comparison.

we can also look at the points we had at the end of last season  and compare to what we have at the end of this season too if you like.

We have taken a massive step backward. I can’t make it any easier for you retards. It is obvious that getting rid of Moyes was a mistake. So quick to demonize the man that brought us the only success in 50 years you fucking bunch of thick cunts.

[Nutsin]

And Moyes was right to blame some of the fuckwit fans. 

[Nutsin]

No-one cares what you have to say goose, you’re one of the fuckwits.This one is for all the retired fuckwits.

where were Westham in the table last Christmas Eve?

Ill wait for an honest answer to my question.

Then look at the points tally compared to what we have today and for fun we can also look at it again Christmas Eve for a comparison.

we can also look at the points we had at the end of last season  and compare to what we have at the end of this season too if you like.

We have taken a massive step backward. I can’t make it any easier for you retards. It is obvious that getting rid of Moyes was a mistake. So quick to demonize the man that brought us the only success in 50 years you fucking bunch of thick cunts.

[goose]

i'd say the league form across a two year period is the proof.

[Nutsin]

No his time was not up. Says who you?

Sorry Alf, you are dead wrong.

There is obvious something off at Wedt Ham and it obviously wasn’t Moyes.

stop being stuck on stupid! Didn’t hear you main when we were winning in Europe.

Why are you so stunningly stuck on your obviously wrong opinion? What is it with you? How can you come on here and claim you were right ffs! Where is your proof?

we are worse off for it,  are you mental?

[fraser]

Here they are, the fuckwits biting on my previous post. 

we had a good first half last year and we’re doing well in the league at Christmas, things went down hill last year after the Jan window which you all decided Moyes was to blame.
no evidence though just whispers of what you’ve heard from some other fuckwit.

Say what you want about Moyes but he had us going on European runs which is a far cry from where we are now.
 
What we have all learned is that it was a big fucking mistake and we are a lot worse off for it. 

Now we are stuck with this moron in charge who doesn’t have a fucking clue. 

what a shit show Moyes is twice the manager J Lo will ever be even on his worse day.

Now you are all coming on here trying to hide the egg on your face, you bunch of retarded fuckwits.  With your repetitive tired same old bullshit on why Moyes had to go for a far worse option. Now we all have to watch the unbaterable garbage that we’ve become. Not sure what’s worse reading you fuckwits spout bollox every week or watch this pathetic team under this clueless manager try to string a few passes together.


Ebery last one of you has been exposed for the clueless fuckwits you are. Get a clue and shut the fuck up you boring, repetitive morons! You were all dead fucking wrong!



 

I got to "we had a good first half last year" and then had the reality smack me in the face.  Barely any difference in the meat and bones (goals conceded, shots, etc) of that,

So quite similar, the only difference being that our new one isn't blaming the fans, players everyone but himself while disrespecting the club like a classless cսnt. 

[Sir Alf]

No point wasting time with revisionist thinking on Moyes. He did ok for 2 seasons of his 4 in the league and won a euro cup. Great West Ham manager by our standards but his time was up and in the league we were going backward or stagnated at best.  Still better than the current coach but too low a bar to think he deserves another contract or spell in the managers seat.  

But with our owner, Moyes is about the best we can get. Sullivan will wait and wait and them look to repeat his Moyes “safe hands” appointment. steidten will be gone and we will be back where we always end up. A squad of mediocre players, relegation worries every season, an old outdated operational model and continuing to wait for new ownership with nous and ambition.

Sullivan ‘s shadow extinguishes all hope Im afraid

[Lee Trundle]

Here they are, the fuckwits biting on my previous post. 

we had a good first half last year and we’re doing well in the league at Christmas, things went down hill last year after the Jan window which you all decided Moyes was to blame.
no evidence though just whispers of what you’ve heard from some other fuckwit.

Say what you want about Moyes but he had us going on European runs which is a far cry from where we are now.
 
What we have all learned is that it was a big fucking mistake and we are a lot worse off for it. 

Now we are stuck with this moron in charge who doesn’t have a fucking clue. 

what a shit show Moyes is twice the manager J Lo will ever be even on his worse day.

Now you are all coming on here trying to hide the egg on your face, you bunch of retarded fuckwits.  With your repetitive tired same old bullshit on why Moyes had to go for a far worse option. Now we all have to watch the unbaterable garbage that we’ve become. Not sure what’s worse reading you fuckwits spout bollox every week or watch this pathetic team under this clueless manager try to string a few passes together.


Ebery last one of you has been exposed for the clueless fuckwits you are. Get a clue and shut the fuck up you boring, repetitive morons! You were all dead fucking wrong!


 

I got to "we had a good first half last year" and then had the reality smack me in the face.  Barely any difference in the meat and bones (goals conceded, shots, etc) of that,

[fraser]

Blimey Nutsin, stop crying son. 

Getting rid of Moyes was definitely the right decision. He was finished after 2 years of losing every other game in the league. He actually had a worse start to the season a couple of years ago with Rice in his team.. 

[Takashi Miike]

bang on crack cocaine? no shock you agree with him. another clueless cսnt