Jean Clair Todibo...

[stubbo]

Supposedly told the Club via Scarf that he's off if Lopetegui remains.

Given how coveted a player he was, and the fact we're committed to spending 40m on him, I'd suggest that adds more leverage than it should (lose 20m binning off an unhappy player or 10m binning off the manager whose underperforming anyway).

Would love to be a fly in the wall in the board meeting when Steidten present what is no doubt some kind of 'get rid' dossier.

Omnishables.

 

[SUM A DING WONG]

Jean Clair To be sacked  or not to be sacked.

That is the question.

That's a case for Inspector Jacques Clouseau.

Now I’m picturing Todibo squaring up to JL and saying.

’gaffer, your fly is undone.’

[Manuel]

Jean Clair To be sacked  or not to be sacked.

That is the question.

That's a case for Inspector Jacques Clouseau.

[SUM A DING WONG]

Jean Clair To be sacked  or not to be sacked.

That is the question.

[Massive Attack]

Jules is beside his old man whilst his Dad uses his sister's as make shift boxing gloves. Todibo is picking on the wrong family!

[Manuel]

Fwiw, I doubt it is true, for a player to literally smack his manager at this level in football is practically unheard of, you'd have to be borderline insane and I doubt Todibo is.

[Massive Attack]

For what it's worth I think Lopetegui is solid for his age and could handle himself if needs be, just that he had more class than to start swinging if it got that bad.

Comes from similar stock to his body building stone lifting chanpion father who brought him up in Basque country where they don't take any shit. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3% ... _Lopetegui

[fraser]

It also smacks of Todibo being a bully. The worst kind of human being. Fancy being a 6ft 4, 24 year old lump and lamping a puny 58 year old guy who is three inches shorter than you.

I am no fan of 'loser Lop' but they need to get this prick Todibo out of the club.

You're so desperate for it to be true aren't you, so that you can say you called it. But whether it is or not you didn't. You said he was bombed out because he was shit. You're now saying you called it him being a problem.. Yet all your old posts are there to see. 

This from Itbs 

As for the punch up between Toddy and Loppy, there was no such thing, just a verbal disagreement and a bit of a squaring up ... 

[Come On You Irons]

It also smacks of Todibo being a bully. The worst kind of human being. Fancy being a 6ft 4, 24 year old lump and lamping a puny 58 year old guy who is three inches shorter than you.

I am no fan of 'loser Lop' but they need to get this prick Todibo out of the club.

[fraser]

Look at fraser making excuses for a loose canon of a player and trying to change the narrative.

Todibo should be bombed out of the club for gross misconduct for lamping his manager.

Have you seen it then? 

I've been told they had words, he lumped him and he didn't even sub him. You have no idea what happened do you, the same as me and everyone else. 

[Massive Attack]

Jean-Clair Torpedo out the Club?

[SUM A DING WONG]

“Jean-Clair Taekwando“

I’m thinking more - Jean Claude Van DAMME why did he have to go and whack the manager and cause all this bollocks.


 

[Come On You Irons]

Look at fraser making excuses for a loose canon of a player and trying to change the narrative.

Todibo should be bombed out of the club for gross misconduct for lamping his manager.

[fraser]

Bottom line is you cannot have players going around chinning managers ffs, can't believe anyone would say otherwise. Not even Messi can get away with that, let alone some two bob CB who most people have never even heard of.

Definitely, but we don't know definitely if he chinned him. 

[Manuel]

Bottom line is you cannot have players going around chinning managers ffs, can't believe anyone would say otherwise. Not even Messi can get away with that, let alone some two bob CB who most people have never even heard of.

[fraser]

Fair enough. I thought Council Scum I think it was that confirmed he walloped him. Tomorrow nights line-up will be interesting.

That may also be true, both parties hearing stuff from somebody they know who they'll tend to believe. Can't both be right though. Sometimes duff information is given and passed on. 

So like I said we don't know the facts. 

[Massive Attack]

Fair enough. I thought Council Scum I think it was that confirmed he walloped him. Tomorrow nights line-up will be interesting.

[fraser]

Someone on. Itbs has said they just had words, nobody knows wtf has happened... So a bit early to be making assumptions based on not the facts. 

If he's fallen out with other players too, and again that's an if. Surely that points more in his direction. 

Oh and COYI you didn't say he was a problem to get bombed out you said it was because he was a shit, now moving the goalposts to he was a problem. 

[Massive Attack]

Things we can reasonably take as true:

- The silly cսnt twatted the manager
- He did go back out and play the rest of the 2nd half with us not conceding. Wasn't fucked right off out of it the moment it happened
- Lopetegui has said he's been recovering from an ongoing injury which has also been true and left out of Leicester game because of it
- Played down issues in Press Conference so to clearly protect the players, including him when asked


It's not ideal and definitely ain't acceptable but it might not be an irreitrievable situation and could even be used to help galvanise spirit by not holding it against him, bring him back in the group. Heat of the moment shit that at least shows he cares deeply about the situation.

Off the back of what's happened to Antonio yesterday it may also have helped focus minds on what's really important and might help knock some sense into Jean-Clair Taekwando. And if it doesn't, then fuck me he really is an stubborn backward cսnt who needs fucking off pronto on the next Eurostar out of London until we can find him another Club...

His choice.

[cholo]

As pointed out, both absolute cunts for different reasons. But if I have to take sides, it'll be on the side of the potentially great player who we'll have to fork out for next summer rather than the dead man walking.

[stubbo-admin]

Bombing Todibo out isn't really an option. I mean we need to pay 40m for him assuming we don't get relegated. If others know we need to sell him straight away we'll be lucky to get 10m back.

However you look at it, whoever is in charge needs to get him playing and playing well, even if it is with a view to shipping him out for close to what we paid. That's modern player power for you.

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[Sir Alf]

Trouble is, its all speculation about Todibo, Steidtens role and process for identifying him etc.   A good coach, is one who usually understands the value of player psychology, works, develops, nutures players to get the best from them.  All I can see is that Todibo has the attributes to be our best CB. He is struggling to adapt to the intensity and speed of the Premiership but has been thrown into a tactical set up that is exposing a back 3 with wide men, attacking midfielders and forwards running through unopposed.   When teams are getting tonked by 3, 4, 5 goals every few weeks it makes for unhappy players at any level of the game especially when they see no end to it.

We need to change this high line, advanced wing backs tactic as we do not have the players to execute it and play deeper in a 4-3-3, players in their preferred positions and defend first again.  Todibo if he gets thru this ( most likely when Loppy goes ),  has great potential and I personally can see a very good player we could build around.  Could be wrong, might be proven so ( often am ).  Just my opinion.  Bombing him out after 10 games seem a tad premature ( again IMHO ) 

[stubbo-admin]

My point is that for far smaller clubs with far less resources they are run in a much more professional manner
Well structured, good managerial choices & astute recruitment 
Bournemouth for example are punching miles above where they should be in the league pyramid
Embarrassing that we are struggling to match them

Nothing fake about you. You are a genuine tedious cock jockey
An utter cսnt

Make you right. But they're also not run by a seemingly vile, alledged sex pestering, threatening,  former prostituting porn Goblin, in it mostly for the alledged benefits of dealing via favoured agents.

[Fauxstralian]

My point is that for far smaller clubs with far less resources they are run in a much more professional manner
Well structured, good managerial choices & astute recruitment 
Bournemouth for example are punching miles above where they should be in the league pyramid
Embarrassing that we are struggling to match them

Nothing fake about you. You are a genuine tedious cock jockey
An utter cսnt

[Manuel]

This Todibo geezer sounds like a right cսnt. I called out in the summer when we signed him there is clearly a reason he was bombed out from Barcelona.

Sounds like another entitled, arrogant, billy big bollocks cսnt like Reo-Coker, Morrison, Payet etc.

Almost makes one feel a tad sorry for 'loser Lop'.

Tbf I do recall you saying that. The fella looks like an absolute cսnt. French ain't he?? I'm backing the manager all the way over this wanker. And agree on the grinning scarf cսnt. Useless prick.

[Come On You Irons]

Well Fulham have been relegated from the Premier League since 2020 and they Bournemouth and Brighton have spent far fewer seasons in the Premier than West Ham since we got promoted in 2012.

What point are you actually trying to make? Fake Aussie cսnt.