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We'll give this as go as a single thread this time and see what preference is:


Match Centre:



Odds:

West Ham: 19/20

Draw: 29/10

Wolves: 3/1


Pre-Match Press Conference:

https://www.youtube.com/live/HSpgiiXnx1M

Tactical Preview: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbCANrPY8M


Watch-along:

https://www.youtube.com/live/gUHRhZoBgYI


Streams:


https://sporthd.live/match/slg-onl-West ... q5XimsdogT


(With all live streams be mindful they can carry viruses etc.  Don't click on any ads and use a VPN).

  

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I do, it's you that seriously needs to. He predominantly played as a right or left Forward. 

You are asking for him to play alongside Alvarez and Paqueta in Midfield. 
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Pretty much every game when Benrahma, Antonio and Bowen started with him. Do your own research.
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 18:13
Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 18:11
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 18:07 “Lambs to the slaughter defensively” my hairy arse. Kudus knows his business in a midfield three and showed his defensive capabilities when played there last season plenty of times - it was an aspect of his game that many noted and found impressive. As for Soucek holding Alvarez’s hand - now you really are having a bubble son.
You haven't got a clue. He never played in Midfield last season. It was always along the Forward line or up front. 
Absolute nonsense
Ok then, how many and which games was he starting in our Midfield?
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Massive Attack" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 18:11
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 18:07 “Lambs to the slaughter defensively” my hairy arse. Kudus knows his business in a midfield three and showed his defensive capabilities when played there last season plenty of times - it was an aspect of his game that many noted and found impressive. As for Soucek holding Alvarez’s hand - now you really are having a bubble son.
You haven't got a clue. He never played in Midfield last season. It was always along the Forward line or up front. 
Absolute nonsense
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 18:07 “Lambs to the slaughter defensively” my hairy arse. Kudus knows his business in a midfield three and showed his defensive capabilities when played there last season plenty of times - it was an aspect of his game that many noted and found impressive. As for Soucek holding Alvarez’s hand - now you really are having a bubble son.
You haven't got a clue. He never played in Midfield last season. It was always along the Forward line or up front. You may be confusing his defensive work because Moyes asks every fucking player to sit deep even our Centre Forwards!
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“Lambs to the slaughter defensively” my hairy arse. Kudus knows his business in a midfield three and showed his defensive capabilities when played there last season plenty of times - it was an aspect of his game that many noted and found impressive. As for Soucek holding Alvarez’s hand - now you really are having a bubble son.
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 17:58 If Kudus had played in a midfield three with Paqueta and Alvarez and had Bowen and either of Ings and Fullkrug ahead of him, he would have been used to his full potential and might have scored a brace. But Soucek is undroppable in this clown’s “system” so Kudus had to fit in, a casualty of a lack of basic common sense and craft.
Kudus and Paqueta in midfield would leave us like lambs to the slaughter defensively with the disciplinary case a ticking time bomb from another lengthy suspension. I trust Soucek more than Alvarez the more I see of Alvarez. I like him but only when he's bang on form. When he's not like the start of this season, he's a liability and needs Soucek there to hold his hand. He needs to sort his discipline out and I mean that positionally, not just in the Refs book.

For now, I'd leave him on the bench. 

I actually liked Kudus in the Forward line where I think he belongs like I asked for pre-game. He was a constant thorn in Wolves side, doing all his best work in their final third and was little unlucky not to score once, let alone twice. 
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If Kudus had played in a midfield three with Paqueta and Alvarez and had Bowen and either of Ings and Fullkrug ahead of him, he would have been used to his full potential and might have scored a brace. But Soucek is undroppable in this clown’s “system” so Kudus had to fit in, a casualty of a lack of basic common sense and craft.
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Takashi Miike" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 17:50 I can accept the Big Man playing if he has two more technical players with him. It fails when he puts Alvarez or Rodriguez in the three with him, much like if those two start together. It's why Rodriguez wasn't needed, especially when we had Flynn and some very decent young CMs. 
I too prefer it when he's flanked by the likes of Paqueta and Soler. Alongside another Defensive Midfielder is overkill like last night. Up at Newcastle with him at the heart of our Defensive Midfield we create a shit load of decent opportunities as a Team. Apparently it wasn't possible, but it clearly is.
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I can accept the Big Man playing if he has two more technical players with him. It fails when he puts Alvarez or Rodriguez in the three with him, much like if those two start together. It's why Rodriguez wasn't needed, especially when we had Flynn and some very decent young CMs. 
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kylay wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 17:43 Soucek has his limitations but sadly he is our joint-leading goal scorer. Given where we are, we're going to need scrappers like him.
I'm not sad, I'm fucking buzzing we have a highly dependable combative Defensive Midfielder who is currently on the same goals as the excellent Bowen. Lucky to have him.
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Keep dreaming" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 17:31 To claim Soucek being undroppable because he scored yesterday is just silly.
Who knows what would have happened IF he was replaced with a striker or another midfielder.

It's pure speculation.
What isn't speculation is the fact that apart from being an aerial threat, he is pretty slow and add nothing in the buildup play.
 
 
Oh no, definitely not. That's just 1 component of what he contributes well to our Team. The headers, blocks, tackles, interceptions, clearances, covering every blade of grass count just as much as the ridiculous amount of goals he scores as a Defensive Midfielder. That is why he's undroppable. And he has a European Cup and countless qualifications for Europe to prove his level of success at the Club whilst being a mainstay for 2 totally different style of managers now. 

Someone bet me earlier in the season that he definitely wouldn't get 10 Premier League goals this season and the total so far is up to 4 only 15 games in. That's how confident I was of his contribution to our Team when many were so quick to criticise him and wanted him gone. He's going nowhere, thank fuck.
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Soucek has his limitations but sadly he is our joint-leading goal scorer. Given where we are, we're going to need scrappers like him.
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To claim Soucek being undroppable because he scored yesterday is just silly.
Who knows what would have happened IF he was replaced with a striker or another midfielder.

It's pure speculation.
What isn't speculation is the fact that apart from being an aerial threat, he is pretty slow and add nothing in the buildup play.
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Mad Ferret" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 15:33
Rossal wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 15:28 Soucek just needs to be taken out the side for us to have any hope of progressing. 











 
You keep parroting this, but we'd be so much worse off without him.
Take him out the side last night, we dont score our important 1st goal! 😂 Still 1 of the first names on the Team sheet, so valuable to our Club. 36 goals and counting...

Lucky to win... 🤣

The catastrophizing at times is next level. We never looked like losing, we wouldn't have deserved to draw the game, always with our noses in front trying to win the game which we did. It wasn't great but fuck me it wasn't as bad as some think it was. We deserved the win, got the win in a high stakes, highly pressurised game, so it's understandable it wasn't a decent watch (for both sides). 3 deserved points and on to the next.
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Mad Ferret" wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 15:33
Rossal wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 15:28 Soucek just needs to be taken out the side for us to have any hope of progressing. 


 
You keep parroting this, but we'd be so much worse off without him.
That's the consensus, imo we really wouldn't 
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Rossal wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 15:28 Soucek just needs to be taken out the side for us to have any hope of progressing. 

 
You keep parroting this, but we'd be so much worse off without him.
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Not a great game, lucky to win. Summerville was bright. Soler desperately needs two ball playing midfielders with legs alongside him. Then we will have a decent side. 

The team simply doesnt know how to attack, the ball just gets farmed to either Summerville or Bowen out wide.....they have to beat a man or deliver a good cross and thats the only way we'll score from open play. 

There is no creativity or goal threat through the middle or from the midfield its painful. 

Alvarez needs to get back to his best, and Soucek just needs to be taken out the side for us to have any hope of progressing. 

Finally, can the full backs stop fucking cutting in when down the wing onto their weak foots....Ait Nouri gets fed the ball takes it on his left peg and bang goal. Emerson and AWB continously cryuff turn back inside for no fucking reason. 

Anyway, massively needed shithouse 3 points......onto Bournemouth monday 
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Re the "penalty" calls.  Wolves score a minute or two after one of them anyway ( the Emerson one? ). It probably did them a favour....
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The atmosphere when we played Leverkusen at home was one of the best I've been involved with.
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wils wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 11:40
southbankbornnbred wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 10:52 Yeah, much as it pains me to say it about the scousers, got to agree with that, Russ.

Anfield is a proper ground and atmosphere.


 
Last time I was up there it was pointed out to me that the chants and songs are piped out of their expensive sound system. You could hear chants coming from certain areas of the ground but when you scan the crowd where it is coming from you just see a bunch of bloke staring at their phones. Eventually some of them pick up the lead and join in.

I know we do the same with bubbles and crowd noise piped through the sound system at the LS at kick off and half time.. But they do it throughout the game.
Spurs do this too.
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The Anfield atmosphere is only good when they are doing well. I remember a 0-0 in the cup up there not that long ago, and it was an atrocious atmosphere.

They are the same as all other sets of supporters. Even the London Stadium has a good atmosphere on big nights. 
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Manuel wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 11:59 Have we started our own in house gossip about Bowen leaving, awww.

He won't be going to Liverpool.
Nobody said he's leaving, though, did they? We simply pointed out that he's coveted by Liverpool - which is well known. Klopp liked him and scouted him in detail when it looked like Salah might leave for Saudi Arabia. Now that Salah is coming towards the end of his contract, Slot is looking at potential replacements and likes several players. It is well known that Liverpool like Bowen and see him as a similar player to Salah who would fit in at Anfield.

So well known that even the New York Times has written about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/548166 ... owen-neto/

Doesn't mean he's going anywhere.
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Manuel wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 11:54
southbankbornnbred wrote: 10 Dec 2024, 10:52 Yeah, much as it pains me to say it about the scousers, got to agree with that, Russ.

Anfield is a proper ground and atmosphere.



 
It ''pains'' you to say that? Why are people so fucking cringe and moronic these days. 
It's a common turn of phrase, Manuel. Been around for centuries, like many current English phrases - particularly in east London, where this football club comes from. It simply means that it's something you say reluctantly because you'd rather not be in a position to say it. It's a reference to metaphorical pain, not physical. It comes from the Latin word "poena" if you didn't know - which was not a specific reference to physical pain.

If you're going to get het up about something like that that then you're going to struggle with much of life in general, fella.
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