NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[southbankbornnbred]

Hahaha, I loved Jerry Glanville, what a character he was. 

That's the trouble these days, no characters.

Then you had Glanville, Ditka, the Icky shuffle bloke, I forget his name, also you had Neon Deion, there must be others?

Cough - that era had some huge characters. Like most sports, it has all become so professional now. But the mavericks and lunatics made for great viewing. Randall Cunningham (not the very best QB, but certainly the most entertaining: anything could happen), LT etc, the Sack Exchange (a little earlier) etc.

[southbankbornnbred]

Hahaha, I loved Jerry Glanville, what a character he was. 

That's the trouble these days, no characters.

Then you had Glanville, Ditka, the Icky shuffle bloke, I forget his name, also you had Neon Deion, there must be others?

Glanville was batshit. But I did like watching his sides - the no-huddle "run and shoot" offense was a thing of beautiful chaos! Might work, sometimes didn't - but when it worked, the gains in yardage were often spectacular! Helped to have Warren Moon, who had an arm like a cannon.

[Far Cough UKunt]

Hahaha, I loved Jerry Glanville, what a character he was. 

That's the trouble these days, no characters.

Then you had Glanville, Ditka, the Icky shuffle bloke, I forget his name, also you had Neon Deion, there must be others?

[southbankbornnbred]

Have to say, of those sides, I'd like to see the Lions win it.

That place would go nuts if they won the lot. It would also send a good message to sides like the Jets and Browns: that you can get your act into gear - and change doom-laden cultures - if you make the right choices and appointments.

But I fear they are a high-scoring side that a Superbowl-standard defence will take down. In that respect, they remind me of Glanville's Houston Oilers (led by Warren Moon) in the 1980s: on their day they could blow you away, but just a little too inconsistent to land the big prize.

[southbankbornnbred]

The Chiefs do look excellent right now. But the play-offs are always a step up and some other sides are just hitting their stride while the Chiefs are getting a bit banged up (even though they are winning). The Eagles look strong. The Bills are up and down, but their best performances are high quality. Vikes and Lions are not to be sniffed at.

And there will be a late bloomer in the season. There always is. The Rams this year?

[RBshorty]

Would love to see either the Bills or Lion’s take home a Vince. But like Far. Can see the Chiefs winning it. Without even getting out of 2nd gear.!

GO G MEN.!

[Far Cough UKunt]

Obviously I'd love the Vikings to win it all at the fifth time of trying but I can't see anyone beating Taylor Swift's Chiefs?

[Nutsin]

Seeing as my Niners have collapsed I’m hoping for a high draft pick so my attention will now be more on the prospects for the upcoming draft.

As for the rest of the season I’d like to see the Vikes win it all. I like Jefferson great player and if u listen to him speak you can’t help but like him.
also Darnold grew up and went to San Clemente high school. My son’s schools big rival. Good to see him doing so well finally.

I think it’ll be Vikes v Bills in the Super Bowl which will be a great game to watch for the neutral fan.

[Far Cough UKunt]

Interesting all white uniforms worn by the Vikings against the Bears.

[southbankbornnbred]

Goes to show how bad the Jets have been at QB for so long now: I'd bite your arm off for a mid-ranking QB! If we had the 13th or 14th best QB in the league, it would be a significant upgrade on where we have been since Pennington (the aging Favre and Rodgers aside: both too expensive and fragile at their ages when we brought them in).

[southbankbornnbred]

the 49ers have proved you don't need a superstar at QB to succeed if you have a strong running game, your rookie was a much better college QB than Purdy. the Lions bloke also loves making the passing game work off the run, so Breece Hall and the other youngster you drafted would thrive under Johnson. It's just what team can attract him to leave? maybe the giants will also be looking for staff, along with quite a few other teams

Yeah, definitely think that's the way the Jets should go. Travis would be a risk at QB, because of his bad injury (it must have been worse than people thought because he's still not back). But you have to take a risk once in a while. If he worked out next season - even if it looked like he'd be a mid-ranking (by NFL standards) QB for us - we could sign him to a multi-year deal after that and focus on building a strong team around him. With Bell and Allen in the backfield, we already have two excellent running backs who just need a good line in front of them.

[Takashi Miike]

the 49ers have proved you don't need a superstar at QB to succeed if you have a strong running game, your rookie was a much better college QB than Purdy. the Lions bloke also loves making the passing game work off the run, so Breece Hall and the other youngster you drafted would thrive under Johnson. It's just what team can attract him to leave? maybe the giants will also be looking for staff, along with quite a few other teams

[southbankbornnbred]

SB, saying that. If you go and get the Lions OC in the offseason, it may work. I think he'll be very much in demand for head coach jobs. He bottled coming to us, but another year down the line may be ready to step up

Yeah, I like the look of Ben Johnson at Detroit. But he's going to be the most coveted co-ordinator likely to move up in January - and many big franchises (including the Jets) will be after him. There's talk of Dallas spending silly Yankee money to land him.

More likely the Jets will end up with Detroit's defensive co-ordinator, Aaron Glenn, who has done a solid job for them under Dan Campbell. He's an ex-Jet pro-bowler, of course, and remains a big fan of the franchise. Many people think he's probably more likely to end up in New York than Johnson. He seems ready to step up, but I have no idea if he'd be a success. It would depend on who he appoints around him - and which GM oversees the whole shitshow.

Other being talked about include the usual suspects: Vrabel etc. Rex is still deluding himself! But I'd wait for a while because there will be the usual merry-go-round of HCs, OCs and DCs in the weeks after the season ends. The Jets have tended to thrive when they opt for an older, hard-bitten and grizzled fucker at HC (Parcells, Ewbank etc) with younger coaches around him (Belichick under Parcells, for example, before the betrayal!).

[southbankbornnbred]

South. Being a Jets fan. You really wouldn’t want to do a trade like that. You be looking at Herschel Walker level’s of being screwed over. Sure. We all know the Jets are more than capable for pulling the trigger on a deal like that. But it’s more the Talkin Heads trying too steal a living. You look like being too far down the pecking order for a quality QB in the draft. Maybe you get someone in free agency too fill you over next season.? But reaching for Lawrence ain’t the solution.

GO G MEN.

Oh, I don't think we should touch it with a bargepole, RB! But our owner is fucking bonkers and the sort of loopnut who might try it.

[southbankbornnbred]

at his wage, and from what I've seen, I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. I watched quite a bit of that successful clemson run where he (like ladies man watson) thrived because of the system in place. No, if you really need to change I think you look elsewhere or use that good youngster in a bridge year, giving him a chance to shine. Your main priority should be getting the front office and coaching staff sorted first, before paying out another fortune for a QB

 

 

Totally agree, TM.

Unfortunately, because the last (current) "rebuild" was an empire built on sand, the Jets will now have to spend yet another two-year loop developing or identifying genuine talent in the trenches, which is where every good side should start. So I'd happily try out the kid Travis for a year at QB, providing that he is fit and strong enough to start next season.

The boring focus of the next off-season has to be sorting out the offensive line, which has been a shambles for a few years because the likes of Woody went all in on big-name skills positions like Rodgers, Adams, Lazard etc. You can't throw the ball, or run it, if you can't protect your QB or open up running lanes. So the dull focus has to be the 320lb monsters, and a proper centre, next year. Build a "you don't want to fuck with us" offensive line and run the ball again but with Travis at QB. I read this week that the sacked GM (Douglas) really wanted to do that but was overruled by the Rodgers-obsessed Woody.

And the D-line needs someone straight down the middle who actually pushes back the opponents o-line. We've had little penetration this season.

Unfortunately, Rex Ryan was right when he said the Jets' blocking has been atrocious and sub-professional. Bad coaching all round.

[RBshorty]

South. Being a Jets fan. You really wouldn’t want to do a trade like that. You be looking at Herschel Walker level’s of being screwed over. Sure. We all know the Jets are more than capable for pulling the trigger on a deal like that. But it’s more the Talkin Heads trying too steal a living. You look like being too far down the pecking order for a quality QB in the draft. Maybe you get someone in free agency too fill you over next season.? But reaching for Lawrence ain’t the solution.

GO G MEN.

[Takashi Miike]

SB, saying that. If you go and get the Lions OC in the offseason, it may work. I think he'll be very much in demand for head coach jobs. He bottled coming to us, but another year down the line may be ready to step up

[Takashi Miike]

at his wage, and from what I've seen, I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. I watched quite a bit of that successful clemson run where he (like ladies man watson) thrived because of the system in place. No, if you really need to change I think you look elsewhere or use that good youngster in a bridge year, giving him a chance to shine. Your main priority should be getting the front office and coaching staff sorted first, before paying out another fortune for a QB

[southbankbornnbred]

Lots of speculation that the Jets might trade for Trevor Lawrence if they do (as seems likely at this stage) part ways with Rodgers after the season. But most of the speculation comes from people in New York and they have clearly not been looking hard at where that would leave Jacksonville.

The Jags paid some huge upfront bonuses against their (current and future) salary cap when negotiating Lawrence's huge contract through to 2030. If another side came in for Lawrence, they'd get little of that money back. It would accelerate a cap charge spread over the next three or four seasons of around $130m extra and, reportedly, leave around $115m in dead money on the Jags' books. Bizarrely, they're in a position where keeping him makes more sense economically than moving on.

A buying side would have to be foolish to offer the Jags a way out of that, however highly they rated Lawrence. But then again, we are the Jets...

[Far Cough UKunt]

Seven straight wins, tempered by the news that Randy Moss has revealed he has cancer.

[southbankbornnbred]

Finally, a stumbling win for the Jets at the weekend, albeit only against the Jags. All too late for Rodgers and Adams to save their seasons, and most likely won't save their Jets careers (not that they'll be bothered, which has been part of the problem).

Seen a few Jets fans moaning that we won, because it sets us back in the draft. As though that franchise is currently organised enough to know what it's doing in the draft! Exactly where we sit in the draft is FAR less important than making the right appointments at GM, HC, OC, DC, and elsewhere in January. A strong set of coaches, managers and scouts, who actually know what they're doing and haven't been over-promoted to their precise position...worth far more than three or four places up the draft board.

[Far Cough UKunt]

Sorry Joe, we have the Lions to face yet and can't allow any misfires, if we want an "easy" path in the playoffs. Having said that, we are capable of spoiling our own party, so it's not beyond our capabilities of losing to the Seahawks who are a very good team.

We face the Bears tomorrow night at home, which on paper should be an easy Vikings win but as we all know, games are not played on paper.

[Joe C]

The Vikes clinch a playoff spot. 

Which was nice.

Any chance you can rest, I dunno, maybe all your starters this coming weekend?  My run of victories at Lumen Field is under threat here

[Far Cough UKunt]

The Vikes clinch a playoff spot. 

Which was nice.

[Joe C]

If Geno’s done his knee and Howell is our starting QB for the rest of the season then that’s that. Ah well, I shall enjoy my trip over for this next game regardless