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"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?
"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"
"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"
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Pentonville wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025, 14:10 Hello ladies and gents. Loooooong story. Let's get spurs out the way and ill tell all. Its been madness. As always. Wish u all love and health
Well! Spring, sprang & sprong!
Good to see you posting.
Good to see you posting.
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Hello ladies and gents. Loooooong story. Let's get spurs out the way and ill tell all. Its been madness. As always. Wish u all love and health
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It’s been very quiet on here it seems of recent , me I’m personally trying to keep my addictions at reasonable levels , making sure I have scripts on 3 continents for my late night Anxiety & Insomnia so I can function as normally as possible ( enjoying life like I’m a 40 year old ) .
I have not heard from Penters for a few months just hope / pray he’s somewhere safe .
Big Shout out to anyone going through IT
I have not heard from Penters for a few months just hope / pray he’s somewhere safe .
Big Shout out to anyone going through IT
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Hello chaps, I hope that you are all okay, and those that aren't okay are still clinging on to this big chunk of rock hurtling through space?
We're (mainly) out of those miserable slate-grey skies and I am hoping you're getting at least 10 minutes a day with the sun on your face.
Just checking in really to wish sincerely that you are okay and if you are not, using this forum as a completely non judgemental place to get some of this shit off of your shoulders and maybe talk to people, your/my peers who are in the same kind of place, and let's face it, you only have to watch the news to see it's just one fucking thing after another.
As Churchill famously said, 'when you are going through hell, keep going'!
Spring's here so give yourself a little pat on the back for making it through another shitty winter. I honestly wish you all the best. We're all West Ham and we're all in this together.
We're (mainly) out of those miserable slate-grey skies and I am hoping you're getting at least 10 minutes a day with the sun on your face.
Just checking in really to wish sincerely that you are okay and if you are not, using this forum as a completely non judgemental place to get some of this shit off of your shoulders and maybe talk to people, your/my peers who are in the same kind of place, and let's face it, you only have to watch the news to see it's just one fucking thing after another.
As Churchill famously said, 'when you are going through hell, keep going'!
Spring's here so give yourself a little pat on the back for making it through another shitty winter. I honestly wish you all the best. We're all West Ham and we're all in this together.
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Big head, that's fucking rough and I wish you and your missus all good things in the future.
Bill, yes okay there are always going to be people you feel are worse off than yourself but that in no way negates the pain YOU feel inside. It's not a race to the bottom after all. You have carried your loss now for more years than I care to remember. Your missus wouldn't like to see you struggle - in her heart of hearts she'd only want the best for you. It's a mistake to pine away to nothing because you are a loyal and loving bloke.
I'm pretty sure she'd tell you to grab at life as we've got so little time on this Earth. If you are a believer you'll have plenty of time on the other side to be together anyway so why not use the time you have on this plane in the pursuit of happiness?
Whatever, bless every one of you struggling to make sense of it all. Good luck x
Bill, yes okay there are always going to be people you feel are worse off than yourself but that in no way negates the pain YOU feel inside. It's not a race to the bottom after all. You have carried your loss now for more years than I care to remember. Your missus wouldn't like to see you struggle - in her heart of hearts she'd only want the best for you. It's a mistake to pine away to nothing because you are a loyal and loving bloke.
I'm pretty sure she'd tell you to grab at life as we've got so little time on this Earth. If you are a believer you'll have plenty of time on the other side to be together anyway so why not use the time you have on this plane in the pursuit of happiness?
Whatever, bless every one of you struggling to make sense of it all. Good luck x
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Two miscarriages is rough. I feel for you. That's the trouble with these things. You have problems yourself and you try and resolve or at least understand and work as well as you can and then you read something like that and you think 'Quit moaning there are people a lot worse off'. I wish you well.
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Good to see this thread still going well.
Had a rough year, 2 miscarriages.
But we keep going. Failure is not an option.
Had a rough year, 2 miscarriages.
But we keep going. Failure is not an option.
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Tell me more Gank. I assume you have some experiencing with this bird for one reason or another? I'm not being facetious either, genuinely curious.
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Billy Blagg" wrote: ↑21 Dec 2024, 22:48 Blimey Pub, that sounds a lot like me. I'm Intrigued as to how you eventually got diagnosed. I had a wealth of issues when I was younger that I never spoke about and few people knew existed. I think the work I was doing kept things under control and my wife - one of the few who knew the whole story - helped me (often when she didn't even know she was helping). When she died in 2018 a lot of them resurfaced and I still struggle with them now.
Not a formal diagnosis. It all started with a video on ADHD that I came across and it rang alarm bells. I'd never looked into it before, but post that video I that started to do some research. It ended up with a couple of online therapy sessions (fuck me that sounds mincey!), where the therapist said I was showing signs of ADHD, my medical doctor concurred, people I work with who are diagnosed agree still, but the most compelling evidence was from AI.
I use AI in my job and personal life, and feeding information into Claude AI really cemented that it's more likely than not that I do have ADHD, more precisely ADD. Claude will ask probing questions back, and based on that information it gave an opinion (not diagnosis).
Official diagnosis is required by a psychiatrist, and they're always fully booked and cost a fucking bomb.
Learning that I have a neurological issue makes sense, but it's a fucking prick of an issue to have.
I wish you well in your journey mate.
I use AI in my job and personal life, and feeding information into Claude AI really cemented that it's more likely than not that I do have ADHD, more precisely ADD. Claude will ask probing questions back, and based on that information it gave an opinion (not diagnosis).
Official diagnosis is required by a psychiatrist, and they're always fully booked and cost a fucking bomb.
Learning that I have a neurological issue makes sense, but it's a fucking prick of an issue to have.
I wish you well in your journey mate.
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Blimey Pub, that sounds a lot like me. I'm Intrigued as to how you eventually got diagnosed. I had a wealth of issues when I was younger that I never spoke about and few people knew existed. I think the work I was doing kept things under control and my wife - one of the few who knew the whole story - helped me (often when she didn't even know she was helping). When she died in 2018 a lot of them resurfaced and I still struggle with them now.
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Pub Bigot" wrote: ↑17 Dec 2024, 18:25 Discovered I have ADHD as an adult. Explain a lot and learning to manage it now, more thanks to AI than medical assistance.
Anyone else got this mongy neurological issue on here and what do you do to manage it?
I've discovered I'm high on the autism spectrum which has explained a lot of things.
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Pub Bigot" wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 13:50Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 12:42Pub Bigot" wrote: ↑17 Dec 2024, 18:25 Discovered I have ADHD as an adult. Explain a lot and learning to manage it now, more thanks to AI than medical assistance.
Anyone else got this mongy neurological issue on here and what do you do to manage it?Is that like a compulsive disorder? I used to insist all my 1000+ albums were on the shelf in alphabetical order and just walking past them could tell if someone had removed one and placed it back somewhere different. Seem to have carried that across to my digital music collection as well.
Maybe many of those that feel the world doesn't understand what they're going through are not so "off field" as they believe, and there are rather a lot of us with similar, but often less debilitating, issues.Here's a definition for you and highlighted where I feel the most impact.
ADHD, or Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, is a neurodevelopmental condition characterised by persistent patterns of inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity that can impact daily life. It often presents as difficulty maintaining focus, managing time, and regulating emotions, along with a tendency towards restlessness or impulsive actions. While it is commonly associated with children, ADHD frequently continues into adulthood, with symptoms sometimes becoming more subtle but still significant. Although it can pose challenges, such as difficulties with organisation or sustaining routines, individuals with ADHD often have strengths like creativity, intense focus on areas of interest, and adaptability.
So I'm thick and lazy if you didn't want to read all that, but not by choice.
No! no! Not lazy. Not at all.
A lot of what you posted up resonates with me, but for one reason or another I've (been lucky enough to have) followed a lifestyle many of those traits actually turned out to be positives, and I've managed (so far) to dodge situations where they could be problematic.
If that, then, is a relevant factor, then it suggests something in there that I share with many which, if I could identify, may prove useful to others.
A lot of what you posted up resonates with me, but for one reason or another I've (been lucky enough to have) followed a lifestyle many of those traits actually turned out to be positives, and I've managed (so far) to dodge situations where they could be problematic.
If that, then, is a relevant factor, then it suggests something in there that I share with many which, if I could identify, may prove useful to others.
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 12:42Pub Bigot" wrote: ↑17 Dec 2024, 18:25 Discovered I have ADHD as an adult. Explain a lot and learning to manage it now, more thanks to AI than medical assistance.
Anyone else got this mongy neurological issue on here and what do you do to manage it?Is that like a compulsive disorder? I used to insist all my 1000+ albums were on the shelf in alphabetical order and just walking past them could tell if someone had removed one and placed it back somewhere different. Seem to have carried that across to my digital music collection as well.
Maybe many of those that feel the world doesn't understand what they're going through are not so "off field" as they believe, and there are rather a lot of us with similar, but often less debilitating, issues.
Here's a definition for you and highlighted where I feel the most impact.
ADHD, or Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, is a neurodevelopmental condition characterised by persistent patterns of inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity that can impact daily life. It often presents as difficulty maintaining focus, managing time, and regulating emotions, along with a tendency towards restlessness or impulsive actions. While it is commonly associated with children, ADHD frequently continues into adulthood, with symptoms sometimes becoming more subtle but still significant. Although it can pose challenges, such as difficulties with organisation or sustaining routines, individuals with ADHD often have strengths like creativity, intense focus on areas of interest, and adaptability.
So I'm thick and lazy if you didn't want to read all that, but not by choice.
ADHD, or Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, is a neurodevelopmental condition characterised by persistent patterns of inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity that can impact daily life. It often presents as difficulty maintaining focus, managing time, and regulating emotions, along with a tendency towards restlessness or impulsive actions. While it is commonly associated with children, ADHD frequently continues into adulthood, with symptoms sometimes becoming more subtle but still significant. Although it can pose challenges, such as difficulties with organisation or sustaining routines, individuals with ADHD often have strengths like creativity, intense focus on areas of interest, and adaptability.
So I'm thick and lazy if you didn't want to read all that, but not by choice.
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Pub Bigot" wrote: ↑17 Dec 2024, 18:25 Discovered I have ADHD as an adult. Explain a lot and learning to manage it now, more thanks to AI than medical assistance.
Anyone else got this mongy neurological issue on here and what do you do to manage it?
Is that like a compulsive disorder? I used to insist all my 1000+ albums were on the shelf in alphabetical order and just walking past them could tell if someone had removed one and placed it back somewhere different. Seem to have carried that across to my digital music collection as well.
Maybe many of those that feel the world doesn't understand what they're going through are not so "off field" as they believe, and there are rather a lot of us with similar, but often less debilitating, issues.
Maybe many of those that feel the world doesn't understand what they're going through are not so "off field" as they believe, and there are rather a lot of us with similar, but often less debilitating, issues.
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Discovered I have ADHD as an adult. Explain a lot and learning to manage it now, more thanks to AI than medical assistance.
Anyone else got this mongy neurological issue on here and what do you do to manage it?
Anyone else got this mongy neurological issue on here and what do you do to manage it?
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Mike Oxsaw" wrote: ↑24 Sep 2024, 16:41 If you're still on here, Peckham, Starmer has just announced:
"Housing plans: The PM announced plans to house homeless veterans, care leavers and domestic abuse victims. It means those groups will be exempt from having to providing a local connection to the area they're applying to."
If that's fast-tracked it may well help you. Might help if you "mail-bomb" your current local MP's inbox.
You are a good man Mike. Here is hoping. Chelsea FC have bought my Veterans estate in Fulham. 4 weeks I am possibly homeless.
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OX - I quite like Leo, or at least got use to it, it's the only Thai beer that I like, the rest are rotten and hangover gear. As you say, other (Western) shit is expensive, but OK once in while. A lot more craft beers here now, very expensive, but I don't like them anyway and wouldn't drink them even if they were free.
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chim chim cha boo" wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 20:15 Hello pals, I haven't really been around here much lately but thought I'd check in.
The nights are drawing in, we get too little sun already and it's suddenly dark and freezing at 4pm. Who the fuck over the age of 12 wouldn't find that depressing in itself, without adding in heading for a Christmas we can't afford where we all have to pretend we're jolly, illnesses 90% of people either think don't exist or have all the same problems, say 'oh poor you' when they should be saying 'me too'.
Chronic pain, mental illness, anxiety and depression are cunts, no two ways about it and although a lot of good people can sympathise, I don't think you can REALLY empathise unless you or someone you love have had a good dose of it yourself. That's the essence of this thread on this site. It really is the diamond in the dog-shit.
Good luck boys, winter will be behind us quicker than you think. So please, get through this winter.
Although apart from a bout of gout (did you see what I did there???), I can't claim to have, so far, experienced any debilitating chronic pain, but the long Covid (/ME) symptoms you (and others) describe are getting annoyingly familiar to me.
Having worked as a contractor (no work = no pay) for over 30 years, I managed to stay remarkably illness free...until I retired (once Covid was declared history).
Now, every so often (about once every month or two) whatever I'm doing, I suddenly get a wave of tiredness sweep over me and have to lie down and sleep for an hour or so before I can continue my day. As I'm retired, it's more of an annoyance, but the problem-solver in me still wants to identify the root cause to see if I can resolve/manage it better.
I'm narrowing down the possible causes and so far have got to:
Having worked as a contractor (no work = no pay) for over 30 years, I managed to stay remarkably illness free...until I retired (once Covid was declared history).
Now, every so often (about once every month or two) whatever I'm doing, I suddenly get a wave of tiredness sweep over me and have to lie down and sleep for an hour or so before I can continue my day. As I'm retired, it's more of an annoyance, but the problem-solver in me still wants to identify the root cause to see if I can resolve/manage it better.
I'm narrowing down the possible causes and so far have got to:
- Covid (but can't recall any symptoms at the time,
- The Covid vaccine (that will boil some people's piss, I'm sure, but that's their problem, not mine),
- Old age; Gotta face up to the fact,
- Retirement & lifestyle change (all my key drivers are now personal and self-derived),
- ME - no history of that, either personally or ancestrally,
- Atrial fibrillation & Atrial flutter (my doctor doesn't seem overly concerned that anything urgent is needed here),
- My anti-hypertension medication (often up 2 or 3 times a night for a piss, meaning I don't get a proper nights sleep).
- At one time I would have added beer, but my youthful indulgence in that has long passed, aided by the fact that all (ALL) beer in Thailand is either absolute shite or taxed into the upper levels of the stratosphere.*
Any/some/all of the above could be causing the symptoms I get, so it, at least, keeps me busy researching for an hour or so a day.
Those who are suffering though, for whatever reason, I wish you well and hope that you at least get closer to identifying your own personal cause and hopefully some sort of remedy.
Don't forget you can sound off on this thread if that releases some of your pressure; I'm sure nobody will hold you to account for doing so.
Those who are suffering though, for whatever reason, I wish you well and hope that you at least get closer to identifying your own personal cause and hopefully some sort of remedy.
Don't forget you can sound off on this thread if that releases some of your pressure; I'm sure nobody will hold you to account for doing so.
* - alcohol is never the solution to a problem (except, maybe an unexpected minger next to you in bed), - trust me on that one, and, yes it's fun on the path to getting merry, but that's about it; It'll dull the symptoms for a few hours but never provide a resolution.
Stay strong; you're West Ham, after all.
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Hello pals, I haven't really been around here much lately but thought I'd check in.
The nights are drawing in, we get too little sun already and it's suddenly dark and freezing at 4pm. Who the fuck over the age of 12 wouldn't find that depressing in itself, without adding in heading for a Christmas we can't afford where we all have to pretend we're jolly, illnesses 90% of people either think don't exist or have all the same problems, say 'oh poor you' when they should be saying 'me too'.
Chronic pain, mental illness, anxiety and depression are cunts, no two ways about it and although a lot of good people can sympathise, I don't think you can REALLY empathise unless you or someone you love have had a good dose of it yourself. That's the essence of this thread on this site. It really is the diamond in the dog-shit.
Good luck boys, winter will be behind us quicker than you think. So please, get through this winter.
The nights are drawing in, we get too little sun already and it's suddenly dark and freezing at 4pm. Who the fuck over the age of 12 wouldn't find that depressing in itself, without adding in heading for a Christmas we can't afford where we all have to pretend we're jolly, illnesses 90% of people either think don't exist or have all the same problems, say 'oh poor you' when they should be saying 'me too'.
Chronic pain, mental illness, anxiety and depression are cunts, no two ways about it and although a lot of good people can sympathise, I don't think you can REALLY empathise unless you or someone you love have had a good dose of it yourself. That's the essence of this thread on this site. It really is the diamond in the dog-shit.
Good luck boys, winter will be behind us quicker than you think. So please, get through this winter.
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Actually really thought I was going to top myself today. Always worked bloody hard and looked after my family. Funds have run out and forced to apply for Universal Credit, after suffering with long covid for a year. They messaged me back, literally want mug shots of me holding my driving licence, like I'm some sort of criminal, then wern't satisfied with the photos. Apparently I'm a complete cսnt for getting ill. Went up the pub and got smashed. Back home now, only thanks to thinking of my wife and daughter first. I'm in horrible achey pain, 24/7 and it only gets worse.
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stubbo-admin wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 10:06Django wrote: ↑06 Nov 2024, 19:48 I feel at the end of my rope. I’ve been living with long covid for nearly 3 years. It’s taken everything - job, money, marriage and a lot of friends. I used to run and play a lot of sport. Now nothing. I have a daughter who is my protective factor - otherwise I’d probably have thrown the towel in. My existence feels very pointless now.Django, not sure if they're still up and running but these guys during COVID were pretty 'relevant' if you didn't just buy everything the MSM were purporting.
They had a treatment protocol for long COVID...might be worth looking at....think a lot of it can be adopted on an individual basis:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-cont ... -11-23.pdf
(Obviously not medical advice, do your own research etc etc)
Thanks mate. Appreciate that
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Django wrote: ↑06 Nov 2024, 19:48 I feel at the end of my rope. I’ve been living with long covid for nearly 3 years. It’s taken everything - job, money, marriage and a lot of friends. I used to run and play a lot of sport. Now nothing. I have a daughter who is my protective factor - otherwise I’d probably have thrown the towel in. My existence feels very pointless now.
Django, not sure if they're still up and running but these guys during COVID were pretty 'relevant' if you didn't just buy everything the MSM were purporting.
They had a treatment protocol for long COVID...might be worth looking at....think a lot of it can be adopted on an individual basis:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-cont ... -11-23.pdf
(Obviously not medical advice, do your own research etc etc)
They had a treatment protocol for long COVID...might be worth looking at....think a lot of it can be adopted on an individual basis:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-cont ... -11-23.pdf
(Obviously not medical advice, do your own research etc etc)
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Sounds very debilitating, what kind of treatments do they do in other countries?
