The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Hammer and Pickle]

This is what actually happened as re. the PNL campaign - it was a hashtag hijacked to benefit the Kremlin accessory Georgescu. If you are interested, you can see some nice gaslighting from the usual WHO bullshit source as well.

https://www.politico.eu/article/investi ... georgescu/

[Nutsin]

The same reason we throw the tennis ball for the spaniel, or buy toys for our pet cats.

Good answer! Ag ag ag!

[riosleftsock]

The same reason we throw the tennis ball for the spaniel, or buy toys for our pet cats.

[Nutsin]

Rios,
why are you wasting your time? When ultimately you prove him wrong he’ll threaten shutting down the site again. That’s his mantra, it’s what he does, so why bother? Ignore the horrible cսnt!

[riosleftsock]

Stop voting for it then, you have nothing to lose but your shell-suit, greasy hair and long neck.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Sorry, I’m tired of this idiotic bollocks - you’re totally full of shit as usual.

[riosleftsock]

I haven't argued that.  Which losing candidate asked the constitutional court to open the investigation?  You can google this

[Hammer and Pickle]

Yes, you’re actually trying to argue the PNL initiated and steered the constitutional court’s investigation into meddling you believe was in fact its own. 

Double think is of course a feature of the gamma brain.

[riosleftsock]

Well done, you managed to either misunderstand all the evidence I showed you, or you are being deliberately ignorant.

Who asked the constitutional court to investigate Georgescu's campaign?

[Hammer and Pickle]

No.

The Romanian Liberal Party did not meddle in the presidential election on behalf of Georgescu. The constitutional court did not point to them and there is no investigation into the PNL's social media activities.

You very, very silly person.

[riosleftsock]

Pickle, it was the liberal party who called for an investigation into the social media campaign that they paid for via a third party consultancy.

They were trying to move votes away from the social democrats and massively miscalculated.  Stop looking for Russians everywhere, be more vigilant with martial arts instructors.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Maybe you should reach out to your vast network of Romanian friends and relative to get you some background and a better translation on this "news" item?

[Hammer and Pickle]

"It turns out an investigation carried out after this decision, by the Romanian tax authority found that the PNL party paid something like 1m USD to Kensington Consulting to carry out a social media campaign on behalf of Georgescu to peel voters away from PNL's opposition"

What, the Romanian National Liberal Party were also using these methods to campaign for Georgescu? How devilishly cunning of them.

[riosleftsock]

Not the best using google translate, but its on here and other sites

https://snoop.ro/anaf-a-descoperit-ca-p ... pe-tiktok/

[riosleftsock]

It's a good thing for Romania that their consitiutional court has looked at the evidence of social media meddling and has made its ruling. However, the political establishment in Romania is, by all accounts, seriously in need of a proper kick up the arse. It's just that becoming a satellite of the Kremlin is not going to deliver the required results.

https://www.ifes.org/publications/roman ... -integrity

Is this another article that you haven't actually read properly, but posted because the headline seemed to support your argument?

I'm off to bed soon, is it ok if I make you look an idiot tomorrow?

No. It supports my position just fine. 

"Historically, annulments have typically been associated with clear procedural errors or fraud, but the Romanian ruling signifies an important shift; the court’s decision highlighted the impact of the extensive deployment of artificial intelligence (AI), automated systems, and coordinated information integrity campaigns on electoral integrity, among other findings of interference. The Court determined that these actions skewed voter perceptions, deprived candidates of equitable opportunities, and violated voters’ rights to make informed choices."

You make me look like an idiot just by having to treat with you; but its a job that has to be done or else you'll spam the site down to your level in no time. 

Pickle, the cancelled/annulled the election claiming russian interference/finance and undue influence via tiktok etc.  It turns out an investigation carried out after this decision, by the Romanian tax authority found that the PNL party paid something like 1m USD to Kensington Consulting to carry out a social media campaign on behalf of Georgescu to peel voters away from PNL's opposition.

It will go to court shortly, but this is nothing like democracy, its using lawfare to change the results of elections that the system does not like.

[Hammer and Pickle]

It's a good thing for Romania that their consitiutional court has looked at the evidence of social media meddling and has made its ruling. However, the political establishment in Romania is, by all accounts, seriously in need of a proper kick up the arse. It's just that becoming a satellite of the Kremlin is not going to deliver the required results.

https://www.ifes.org/publications/roman ... -integrity

Is this another article that you haven't actually read properly, but posted because the headline seemed to support your argument?

I'm off to bed soon, is it ok if I make you look an idiot tomorrow?

No. It supports my position just fine. 

"Historically, annulments have typically been associated with clear procedural errors or fraud, but the Romanian ruling signifies an important shift; the court’s decision highlighted the impact of the extensive deployment of artificial intelligence (AI), automated systems, and coordinated information integrity campaigns on electoral integrity, among other findings of interference. The Court determined that these actions skewed voter perceptions, deprived candidates of equitable opportunities, and violated voters’ rights to make informed choices."

You make me look like an idiot just by having to treat with you; but its a job that has to be done or else you'll spam the site down to your level in no time. 

[riosleftsock]

It's a good thing for Romania that their consitiutional court has looked at the evidence of social media meddling and has made its ruling. However, the political establishment in Romania is, by all accounts, seriously in need of a proper kick up the arse. It's just that becoming a satellite of the Kremlin is not going to deliver the required results.

https://www.ifes.org/publications/roman ... -integrity

Is this another article that you haven't actually read properly, but posted because the headline seemed to support your argument?

I'm off to bed soon, is it ok if I make you look an idiot tomorrow?

[Hammer and Pickle]

It's a good thing for Romania that their consitiutional court has looked at the evidence of social media meddling and has made its ruling. However, the political establishment in Romania is, by all accounts, seriously in need of a proper kick up the arse. It's just that becoming a satellite of the Kremlin is not going to deliver the required results.

https://www.ifes.org/publications/roman ... -integrity

[riosleftsock]

Romania and Bulgaria were accepted into Schengen on 12th and the election is to be re-run. It is widely accepted that the evidence of massive Kremlin meddling is overwhelming so there has been very little real-world fallout.

More interesting is the diplomatic row between Budapest and Warsaw/Brussels following the granting of political asylum to a PiS MP charged with the embezzlement of vast amounts of public money. Like all Putin stooges, Orban is clearly incapable of distinguishing his political interest and that of the public and state. His mates in PiS are no different however much they froth and posture - they are all Kremlin operatives.

The evidence is so overwhelming they have failed to produce a single piece of it.  The wrong candidate won so they had to cancel the election result to save their shared democratic values and rule of law.

They tried the same schtick in Georgia too.

[Nutsin]

It was the shutdown of government that was narrowly averted despite Elon Musk and his leering lapdog Donald Trump.

I know that’s too much for you to process, braincell, but there it is.

Stop being a know nothing retard, it happens every time, it always gets approved last minute after a contentious debate. Fucking spastic, 

[Hammer and Pickle]

Romania and Bulgaria were accepted into Schengen on 12th and the election is to be re-run. It is widely accepted that the evidence of massive Kremlin meddling is overwhelming so there has been very little real-world fallout.

More interesting is the diplomatic row between Budapest and Warsaw/Brussels following the granting of political asylum to a PiS MP charged with the embezzlement of vast amounts of public money. Like all Putin stooges, Orban is clearly incapable of distinguishing his political interest and that of the public and state. His mates in PiS are no different however much they froth and posture - they are all Kremlin operatives.

[WHU(Exeter)]

Btw, what was the fallout from the Romanian, (or was it Hungarian) election? Had so much on these last few days, I haven’t had chance to catch up.

[WHU(Exeter)]

“And you won’t enjoy it”

Not very nice is it? You trying to ruin 1BBs Christmas or something?

[Hammer and Pickle]

If 'narrowly' means 85 to 11 votes in favour of approving the budget, thus avoiding a shutdown of government then I guess you have a point Celery neck.

Fucking desperate cսnt.

Problem is, however much you bluster, you and your handler “Sir Nige” are on the side that tried to make that 11 votes into a majority.

You are going to have to take responsibility for a lot more of this in the coming years. And you won’t enjoy it.

[only1billybonds]

If 'narrowly' means 85 to 11 votes in favour of approving the budget, thus avoiding a shutdown of government then I guess you have a point Celery neck.

Fucking desperate cսnt.