Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)

[maverick180]

I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

[Sir Alf]

If we were not losing by 4 or 5 against all the better teams and giving so many chances away and conceding mostly poor goals in all games ( although yesterday strangely not that many but still conceded 4 poor goals ), we might actually be more patient. Yes we do not have many wins but if we saw more stability we might give Lop more time. But it looks like a coach who is tactically inflexible imposing a system on a squad thats not suited to it.  

Just as we knew Moyes could not adapt to play a more progressive game ( which is why he always went for slow, solid experienced players for his low block) , Lop cannot or will not adapt some of his tactics to be more compact, solid and dare I say Moyesesque.  Try “walking before we run” ( irony again as our midfield literally looks like it walks ).

Would have happened by now if it was going to happen so not expecting anything to change. We will stumble on, hopefully get the 15 points we need ( although not even certain of that). Sullivan will via Salthouse, bring in a few signings and waste money in Jan.

Lop goes when compensation not required, Sullivan recruits another wrong coach / manager, we recruit by committee or just Sullivan choses who we get from recommended options from Steidten or new “Tech Director” ( not a DOF ) and the whole cycle of confusion and underachievement continues until Sullivan dies. 

[Steady]

Sullivan is probably letting the tough run of games pass first, get Liverpool, City and Villa out the way which we’ll lose and then fire Lop. No point bringing in a new manger for those games who would get off to a bad start. Hopefully we have Potter or an interim manager in for the Fulham home match

[Russ of the BML]

Its all so very predictable. Lope's time in charge is like looking out to sea and predicting the weather. Its easy. 

For anyone who reads my two pennies worth, I said weeks back that there has not been one player that's improved under Lope and week after week we look just as dumb and confused as we did in his first games in charge. And I predicted, rather easily, that we won't see any improvement because the players do not like him, understand him or want to play for him. The same problems still exist that existed at the very start of the season. Lope has done nothing to change it. 

I predicted we would not beat Bournemouth and Brighton. Did not have a clue what we would do a Soton (good result but questionable performance). And so it came to pass. I said we would get beat comfortably by Liverpool and predicted 6. I said we would get beat comfortably by City and predicted 5-0 which almost came to pass. I also said in the week we would get beat comfortably by Villa in the cup and predicted 3-0. This doesn't make me some specialist or some clever bastard. Quite frankly, we are so poor a fucking child could predict we would get beat. And that, I am afraid, is the legacy of a coach that is obviously totally out of his depth. 

The only positive from yesterday is that we should've been 1 up and the most blinkered West Ham fans would argue 2-0 up. But then we revert to type. 

The problem, that I also called in the week, is that Liverpool and City were free hits. Lope has reduced expectations to such a low level, people do not even expect us to get nil. He is not going to be sacked after losing to Liverpool and City. I also said that I doubt he will get sacked if we get beat by Villa in the cup. Lope is riding a wave of unbelievable goodwill from Sulli. But it is not genuine goodwill. It is goodwill shadowed by a fear of being proven wrong. The egomaniac will tell all that he doesn't like to sack managers, but deep down, it is not liking to be made to look a fool. 

So my prediction is beaten 3-0 by Villa. Then we move into two huge games at home to Fulham and Palace. Sadly, I predict we get beat by Fulham, but Sullivan will then have no choice but to jettison Lope. But if we do, against all odds, turn up and beat Fulham Lope will go into the Palace game...... Then, who know's?

[Nick QQQ2]

Wow. Just wow.  Teletext fan 

[Mike Oxsaw]

I suspect that all the manager was tasked to do in his first season here was to just make sure we don't drop out of the PL - Sullivan's BAU approach.

We won't go anywhere meaningful in the FA Cup and if we do I strongly suspect Sullivan to throw a spanner in the works (It's HIS club, HE can do what he likes, innit?) and derail us.

Two more losses for each of the Bottom 4 sides will all but guarantee our survival for next season, and probably that of the manager; in fact, all we really have to do is keep pace with Everton and/or Man United and we'll be safe.

Mind you, as for what that bodes on the pitch next term I'm not so sure; we still need a major clear-out/rebuild whatever - and whoever - is managing the team next season. I've really not seen enough of a consistent improvement to fully believe Joe Loss is flexible and adaptable enough at this level - as for the players? Old dogs/new tricks; you know the score there.

If we do get a(nother) new manager in, it needs to be as soon as we're safe, to at least give him (or her, it is 2025, after all, and Sullivan does like the ladies, I'm told) the chance to assess the players in proper competition games.

[goose]

Yeah, but I think that by winning 6 and drawing 1 in 7, including winning 5 in a row, between game days 12 and 18 Iraloa probably convinced the board and the fans that he knew what he was doing.

If only, eh?

Exactly this!!

Theres zero progress here. 

[Manuel]

I'd love to know how advanced any talks were with Potter. If he's just sitting there waiting for the call then this makes no sense at all as it's as clear as day we are going nowhere under Lop. I don't buy the pay off thing, it's about 3 mil in prize money per finishing position in the PL.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

 

25 points and 39 goals conceded. Losing to Man City 6-1, Arsenal 0-4, Everton 3-0, Liverpool 0-4

https://www.11v11.com/teams/afc-bournem ... 24/comp/1/

incorrect

https://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/ ... ieltag/20/

'Back-to-back defeats leave Bournemouth in 12th on 25 points. '

Source: Premier League

https:/www.premierleague.com/match/93522

After Bournemouth's 20th League game..

https://www.premierleague.com/tables?co=1&se=578&ha=-1

Apologies. That site is clearly incorrect.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

His racking up of yellow cards may seem irrelevant..but tells me everything.
a frustrated and out of his depth incompetent .
When your guvnor lacks discipline and authority...it always filters down.
tbf he hasn't offered out a female reporter yet..
​​​​​​but looking at the  state of him it won't be long

 

[Massive Attack]

I’d love to know how many points Bournemouth had after 20 games and how many goals they conceded.

This isn’t just a bad start. It’s an awful half a season and there’s no sign it will change.

 

25 points and 39 goals conceded. Losing to Man City 6-1, Arsenal 0-4, Everton 3-0, Liverpool 0-4

https://www.11v11.com/teams/afc-bournem ... 24/comp/1/

incorrect

https://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/ ... ieltag/20/

'Back-to-back defeats leave Bournemouth in 12th on 25 points. '

Source: Premier League

https:/www.premierleague.com/match/93522

After Bournemouth's 20th League game..

https://www.premierleague.com/tables?co=1&se=578&ha=-1

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

He won't be sacked .
Smurf will look at the next 3 games for the lopster to save his bacon through till February.
You know the rest

[nychammer]

If we were Ipswich / Soton / Leicester in our position I’d be delighted right now 

As it is, as an investor in our club and having pumped  in countless millions and to be going backwards I’d be very unhappy at this moment. We may be safe but I think there are only 4 teams (maybe 5) of those below us that are actually worse than us right now. As a business the returns on some poor investments are coming home to roost, but it’s not clear who is accountable. That is why all of Steidten, Loppy and Sullican still remain and can point fingers at each other while the club flounders on the pitch.

As others have said, don’t see this changing until the end of the season and as long as we look “safe” but sooner or later something needs to give. 

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

And yet Iraola also had a bad start to life at Bournemouth last season in line for the sack and now look at him/Bournemouth..

I’d love to know how many points Bournemouth had after 20 games and how many goals they conceded.

This isn’t just a bad start. It’s an awful half a season and there’s no sign it will change.

 

25 points and 39 goals conceded. Losing to Man City 6-1, Arsenal 0-4, Everton 3-0, Liverpool 0-4

https://www.11v11.com/teams/afc-bournem ... 24/comp/1/

incorrect

https://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/ ... ieltag/20/

[onsideman]

Yeah, but I think that by winning 6 and drawing 1 in 7, including winning 5 in a row, between game days 12 and 18 Iraloa probably convinced the board and the fans that he knew what he was doing.

If only, eh?

[Massive Attack]

It’s not just those two games though is it? Across 20 games it’s been nowhere near good enough - by any metric.

4th worst defence in the league 
6th worst attack 

only 6 games won out of 20 and almost half lost.
he’s giving Moyes a real run for his money in the shitty performances stakes as well.

And yet Iraola also had a bad start to life at Bournemouth last season in line for the sack and now look at him/Bournemouth..

I’d love to know how many points Bournemouth had after 20 games and how many goals they conceded.

This isn’t just a bad start. It’s an awful half a season and there’s no sign it will change.

 

 

25 points and 39 goals conceded. Losing to Man City 6-1, Arsenal 0-4, Everton 3-0, Liverpool 0-4

https://www.11v11.com/teams/afc-bournem ... 24/comp/1/

[Lee Trundle]

You're the only one who gives a fuck about how he did at other clubs, Massive Attack.

For us, he's a load of old shit.

Sorry, I meant to also add to that what other managers are doing at other clubs. 

He's still a load of old shit for us, though.

[collyrob]

As I already said, the Board will be happy to wait until after January to get rid so they don’t have to spend, happy in the knowledge that theres worse teams than us. 

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

It’s not just those two games though is it? Across 20 games it’s been nowhere near good enough - by any metric.

4th worst defence in the league 
6th worst attack 

only 6 games won out of 20 and almost half lost.
he’s giving Moyes a real run for his money in the shitty performances stakes as well.

And yet Iraola also had a bad start to life at Bournemouth last season in line for the sack and now look at him/Bournemouth..

I’d love to know how many points Bournemouth had after 20 games and how many goals they conceded.

This isn’t just a bad start. It’s an awful half a season and there’s no sign it will change.

12th 
28 points
-6 goal difference 
32 for 38 against

Considering 12th was their second best ever premier league position it’s a bit odd keep comparing Iraola and Bournemouth to us?

[Lee Trundle]

You're the only one who gives a fuck about how he did at other clubs, Massive Attack.

For us, he's a load of old shit.

[goose]

It’s not just those two games though is it? Across 20 games it’s been nowhere near good enough - by any metric.

4th worst defence in the league 
6th worst attack 

only 6 games won out of 20 and almost half lost.
he’s giving Moyes a real run for his money in the shitty performances stakes as well.

And yet Iraola also had a bad start to life at Bournemouth last season in line for the sack and now look at him/Bournemouth..

I’d love to know how many points Bournemouth had after 20 games and how many goals they conceded.

This isn’t just a bad start. It’s an awful half a season and there’s no sign it will change.

[Massive Attack]

It’s not just those two games though is it? Across 20 games it’s been nowhere near good enough - by any metric.

4th worst defence in the league 
6th worst attack 

only 6 games won out of 20 and almost half lost.
he’s giving Moyes a real run for his money in the shitty performances stakes as well.

And yet Iraola also had a bad start to life at Bournemouth last season in line for the sack and now look at him/Bournemouth..

[goose]

It’s not just those two games though is it? Across 20 games it’s been nowhere near good enough - by any metric.

4th worst defence in the league 
6th worst attack 

only 6 games won out of 20 and almost half lost.
he’s giving Moyes a real run for his money in the shitty performances stakes as well.

[factory seconds]

i'm not sure i care at this point. i don't think we're going anywhere, but unlike moyes he's not enough of a snide, self aggradising gaslighting prick for me to get worked up about it.

his main crime (beyond just being shit) is that he's sully's man. whoever comes next will also be sully's man, so it's hard to get excited about it.

[onsideman]

Sorry, but I think you're now a parody poster, Massive Twat

[Massive Attack]

Whilst Moyes had his supporters as well as his detractors I’m not sure this feller has a single West Ham supporter who wants him to stay.  I certainly don’t know any. So with around 99.9% of fans wanting him gone what the fuck is the clueless git still doing here.
if he carries on like he is then it’s most likely that he’ll drag us into a relegation scrap. He’s been called the Spanish Moyes. That’s wrong, at least Moyes had a plan. I’d say he’s more like the Spanish Roeder. And that’s very worrying.

For much of the reasons Gank gave earlier. It's not going to be a popular opinion but it's a fair and understabdable one considering everything he's had to contend with since taking charge and I mean everything in such a short space of time. Happy to list it if people really want a re-cap or if they want to pretend that everything has been rosey..

No one was going to sack him after a 4 game unbeaten run and nor should they after losing to Champions elect Liverpool or current Champions away Man City. Before we even mention key injuries to the likes of Bowen and Fabianski. They'll be other games people can demand for his head but none of what's just happened is a sackable offence.