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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
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Have listened to a lot of programmes on the radio, and with some of those in both the police and social services, who tried to raise the issues and get something done about it were silenced and in some cases forced to leave their jobs. So the ones who did actually try to prevent it all happening further, in quite a few cases got in trouble, damaged their careers, or lost their jobs completely. What a beyond sad state of affairs, particularly given the crimes involved.
Noticeable also how on all of the BBC radio programmes about this, the presenters keep trotting out the “people seem to have forgotten about the victims”, “it’s become political”, “agenda driven”, blah, blah, blah.
I’d suggest that people have NOT “forgotten about the victims” at all and very much the opposite. The ‘people’ for the large part know that for a victim of any crime, it’s paramount that those who committed the crimes are brought to proper and full justice, and that applies equally to those who were in responsible positions, who could have stopped it, but chose for whatever reasons not to, and to allow it to continue for years.
Those people HAVE to be named and made accountable, THAT will help the victims, not all, but some even and they absolutely deserve that. Also naming the people involved and the positions they are in will assist in the process of ensuring that nothing like this happens again, because this is not the Victorian age, (not that it would be ‘acceptable’ even then), but the 2000s.
A modern civilised society should NEVER accept the systematic abuse of the vulnerable as has happened, and the enablers should be called out and shamed straight away, every single time.
Noticeable also how on all of the BBC radio programmes about this, the presenters keep trotting out the “people seem to have forgotten about the victims”, “it’s become political”, “agenda driven”, blah, blah, blah.
I’d suggest that people have NOT “forgotten about the victims” at all and very much the opposite. The ‘people’ for the large part know that for a victim of any crime, it’s paramount that those who committed the crimes are brought to proper and full justice, and that applies equally to those who were in responsible positions, who could have stopped it, but chose for whatever reasons not to, and to allow it to continue for years.
Those people HAVE to be named and made accountable, THAT will help the victims, not all, but some even and they absolutely deserve that. Also naming the people involved and the positions they are in will assist in the process of ensuring that nothing like this happens again, because this is not the Victorian age, (not that it would be ‘acceptable’ even then), but the 2000s.
A modern civilised society should NEVER accept the systematic abuse of the vulnerable as has happened, and the enablers should be called out and shamed straight away, every single time.
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Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑09 Jan 2025, 01:05Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:08Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:02Champion didn't and still doesn't do nearly enough.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.Strong enough to call it out nationally when no other cսnt would in Politics way back in 2017.She knew the FULL SCALE of what was going on .and imo she didn't do enough, and still doesn't .
where is she now?...still has it's nose in the trough
STRAW was home secretary and MP for Blackburn .
I've e-mailed both over the yrs with no actual replies.
Just generic bs.
My local MP masquerades as a Tory...he's a liberal
We're heading for a war in our land ...and it will be bloody.
Agree with all that, still doesn't alter the fact both Oliver and Champion were banging on about this year's ago when most the establishment were burying their heads in the sands not acknowledging it, or possibly worse in Starmers case seemingly covering it up if that was what was going on. Like you I also want to see a proper inquiry.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑08 Jan 2025, 22:31 Goodness me. Even the BBC's left wing Political Editor is beginning to see the light:
Is Starmer leaving the door open to an abuse inquiry? - BBC News
I Would like to see the thousands of victims having their voices heard warts and all.
and all those that failed them held to account.
because for me, they are even worse than the vermin they protect.
and all those that failed them held to account.
because for me, they are even worse than the vermin they protect.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:08Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:02Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown.Champion didn't and still doesn't do nearly enough.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.Strong enough to call it out nationally when no other cսnt would in Politics way back in 2017.
She knew the FULL SCALE of what was going on .and imo she didn't do enough, and still doesn't .
where is she now?...still has it's nose in the trough
STRAW was home secretary and MP for Blackburn .
I've e-mailed both over the yrs with no actual replies.
Just generic bs.
My local MP masquerades as a Tory...he's a liberal
We're heading for a war in our land ...and it will be bloody.
where is she now?...still has it's nose in the trough
STRAW was home secretary and MP for Blackburn .
I've e-mailed both over the yrs with no actual replies.
Just generic bs.
My local MP masquerades as a Tory...he's a liberal
We're heading for a war in our land ...and it will be bloody.
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Goodness me. Even the BBC's left wing Political Editor is beginning to see the light:
Is Starmer leaving the door open to an abuse inquiry? - BBC News
Is Starmer leaving the door open to an abuse inquiry? - BBC News
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My firend has spend most of week speeking with halal butcher abowt converting to Islam but he have such low testorone that he have zero chance of growing beard and zero chance of not drinking alkohol so it look like he stay woke alkoholik
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Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑08 Jan 2025, 21:06 Goose - it was Donald Rumsfeld, Vladimir Putin and the Pope. Of course.
Sounds like an epic NYE!
Rumsfeld, Putin & the Pope do Milan 2024.
Rumsfeld, Putin & the Pope do Milan 2024.
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Goose - it was Donald Rumsfeld, Vladimir Putin and the Pope. Of course.
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Usual suspects at it again……… Pickle will be on to defend their actions shortly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Milan.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Milan.html
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:08Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:02Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown.Champion didn't and still doesn't do nearly enough.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.Strong enough to call it out nationally when no other cսnt would in Politics way back in 2017.
Ann Cryer was one of the firsts, Nick Griffin back in the Day
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I read somewhere that the suppressions of action and information came from bigwigs in the Civil Service. It rings similar to their response to Covid. They want to massage culture for certain groups and fuck the rest.
Tgere are plenty of people who believe the civil service is long past its sell by date.
Tgere are plenty of people who believe the civil service is long past its sell by date.
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I love the way that the BBC when having phone-ins and discussions on this topic, keep using the phrase ‘political capital’. IIRC it’s also a favourite of Pickles.
Why shouldn’t political capital be made out of this, especially if it be used to ensure that this disgraceful set of affairs is never allowed to happen again?
or should everyone be satisfied with a couple of ‘lessons learned’ sessions?
Why shouldn’t political capital be made out of this, especially if it be used to ensure that this disgraceful set of affairs is never allowed to happen again?
or should everyone be satisfied with a couple of ‘lessons learned’ sessions?
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Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 02:02Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown.Champion didn't and still doesn't do nearly enough.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.
Strong enough to call it out nationally when no other cսnt would in Politics way back in 2017.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 23:56 Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown.
Champion didn't and still doesn't do nearly enough.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.
She talks the talk but does fuck all in reality.
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A lazy spoilt middle England population who need to take a Long hard look in the mirror.
But they won't .of course they won't ..until it effects them.
If these children were named Penelope from Thame it would have been dealt with very differently .
But they won't .of course they won't ..until it effects them.
If these children were named Penelope from Thame it would have been dealt with very differently .
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Sarah Champion and Maggie Oliver were both well ahead of the curve on all this and were brave enough to whistle blow about it all years ago which just so happened to be on, yep you guessed it, Starmers watch at the CPS. He's got to be one of the worst Prime Ministers we have ever had and that'll take some doing amongst the likes of Truss and Brown.
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:53Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:41Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 18:42Good Lord! Islam is just a religion like any other. Are you part of the Spanish fucking Inquisition, you daft cսnt?There you go again part of the problem. Pakistani rape gangs targeted young white girls specifically, why? Because they were "white trash" in their words. You and your comrades help cover it up as you know full well it exposed the flaws in multiculturalismNo. The grooming was covered up because the local police and authorities knew they would not get the support they needed to deal with it in the face of the backlash. This is perfectly obvious and this is why, as I live and breath, I will not let this become a political groomer’s site. I have been accused of being a friend of the groomers for this and that itself is evidence enough there are proper groomers allowed to operate on here in plain sight.
Yh you are one. They covered it up in the name of PC, multiculturalism as it would expose the flaws in their project.
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Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:59Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:53Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:41There you go again part of the problem. Pakistani rape gangs targeted young white girls specifically, why? Because they were "white trash" in their words. You and your comrades help cover it up as you know full well it exposed the flaws in multiculturalismNo. The grooming was covered up because the local police and authorities knew they would not get the support they needed to deal with it in the face of the backlash. This is perfectly obvious and this is why, as I live and breath, I will not let this become a political groomer’s site. I have been accused of being a friend of the groomers for this and that itself is evidence enough there are proper groomers allowed to operate on here in plain sight.If it falls to Pickle to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted posting on this football fan site with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of fair play, so be it. He is ready for the fight.
I’d have thought no “bent and twisted” was basic standard for any form of communication.
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:53Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:41Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 18:42Good Lord! Islam is just a religion like any other. Are you part of the Spanish fucking Inquisition, you daft cսnt?There you go again part of the problem. Pakistani rape gangs targeted young white girls specifically, why? Because they were "white trash" in their words. You and your comrades help cover it up as you know full well it exposed the flaws in multiculturalismNo. The grooming was covered up because the local police and authorities knew they would not get the support they needed to deal with it in the face of the backlash. This is perfectly obvious and this is why, as I live and breath, I will not let this become a political groomer’s site. I have been accused of being a friend of the groomers for this and that itself is evidence enough there are proper groomers allowed to operate on here in plain sight.
Why would there be a backlash for reporting the mass grooming and rape of young girls?
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:53Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:41Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 18:42Good Lord! Islam is just a religion like any other. Are you part of the Spanish fucking Inquisition, you daft cսnt?There you go again part of the problem. Pakistani rape gangs targeted young white girls specifically, why? Because they were "white trash" in their words. You and your comrades help cover it up as you know full well it exposed the flaws in multiculturalismNo. The grooming was covered up because the local police and authorities knew they would not get the support they needed to deal with it in the face of the backlash. This is perfectly obvious and this is why, as I live and breath, I will not let this become a political groomer’s site. I have been accused of being a friend of the groomers for this and that itself is evidence enough there are proper groomers allowed to operate on here in plain sight.
If it falls to Pickle to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted posting on this football fan site with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of fair play, so be it. He is ready for the fight.
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"This is perfectly obvious and this is why, as I live and breath, I will not let this become a political groomer’s site."
Hahaha. Just who the fuck does this narcissistic cսnt think he is?
He is slowly reverting back to the poster who lost his shit on a daily basis during the Brexit thread.
Tuesdays could get interesting again.
Hahaha. Just who the fuck does this narcissistic cսnt think he is?
He is slowly reverting back to the poster who lost his shit on a daily basis during the Brexit thread.
Tuesdays could get interesting again.
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Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:41Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 18:42Leavemyarcelona wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 18:29You constantly make exuses for islam, whenever they are caught out you deflect, comparing whitey and minimize atrocities they commit. You know you do so don't try and deny itGood Lord! Islam is just a religion like any other. Are you part of the Spanish fucking Inquisition, you daft cսnt?There you go again part of the problem. Pakistani rape gangs targeted young white girls specifically, why? Because they were "white trash" in their words. You and your comrades help cover it up as you know full well it exposed the flaws in multiculturalism
No. The grooming was covered up because the local police and authorities knew they would not get the support they needed to deal with it in the face of the backlash. This is perfectly obvious and this is why, as I live and breath, I will not let this become a political groomer’s site. I have been accused of being a friend of the groomers for this and that itself is evidence enough there are proper groomers allowed to operate on here in plain sight.
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Hammer and Pickle" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2025, 21:26 Yeah right.
I’d just like to say Islam is just another religion and the victims of the Bolton and Rotherham grooming gangs need proper social and economic support. The government that failed to provide it must be held responsible and Elon Musk is playing you like a fiddle because you can’t shoulder your part of the blame.
Yes I will engage with you.
He is helping shine a light on it by holding people to account