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I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask
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Takashi Miike" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 16:44 anyone seen Graham? has he made his decision yet? 😂
My guess is he's still far too busy kissing himself in the mirror at home whilst his mobile rings off the hook in the background. 
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anyone seen Graham? has he made his decision yet? 😂
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I embarrassed admitting to others that I support this morally bankrupt club.
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A masterclass from the Circus on how not to treat people. In the summer we were shopping in John Lewis for a decent manager. It appears that Sullivan slipped out the tradesmen's exit and sneaked into a charity shop with predictable results.
Lopetegui had to go, he wasn't up to the job. But, he never has been. Clearly little to no objective criteria applied to appointing Lopetegui so will objective criteria be used this time? Doubt it. 
Lopetegui doesn't, however badly he has performed as a tactician and man manager, deserve to be treated in this shameful way. He should be fucked off out of it with dignity, not led to the pillories in this manner, prior to a very slow and public execution. 
Most businesses boards set the tone for how they behave and are perceived. 
As supporters we have an idealised view of what our club is and what it means to us. What we are witnessing, however, is the real West Ham as it actually is under this bunch. It isn't pretty.
Good luck to Potter if he takes the job but, honestly, looking at how the board is behaving, why would he take it? 
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I find myself in a wholly unpleasant situation of having to agree with Gank entirely. 

if you know the way broadly you will see it in all things

I choose to interpret that as being honourable and respectful (the way) in all aspects of my life (all things). Our Chairman has a different interpretation with his way involving disrespect and penny pinching. He nails the second part though as this approach permeates everything he does and everything he says. Just ask the fans of Birmingham FC, Bruno de Carvalho, Martin O'Neil, Jhon Duran, Julen Lopetegui etc. 

Our club is rotten, and will remain rotten until the man who sets the moral tone is usurped. 
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Gank wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 15:14
Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:50
Django wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:42
 
Have to agree. It’s not been ideal at all but he’s done very little to warrant vast amounts of sympathy. It’s not just the poor tactics and signings. He hardly mentions fans, he doesn’t wear the badge, if his touch line antics are from a passion - then it’s very poorly directed, the language issue shouldn’t be barrier to connect with our fans - see bielsa. 
More myths...

It doesn’t matter who he is, or if he was ever any good at his job, this is an horrible way to treat an employee and none of us with more ordinary jobs would ever accept such treatment.

It is wholly irregular even in football for this to happen and that’s down more to decency and good practice as well as professional reputation. Doesn’t West Ham have an HR team?
 
 
 
 
Damn right, Gank fella.

I'm not a huge fan of Lopetegui as a manager. But he's a decent man and, like any employee, should be treated with some dignity and respect. I think it would be right to remove him - he isn't a fit with West Ham. But that mistake was the board's. They should not make the situation worse like this.
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I'd take Billic over Potter, I'd even take on Pardew rather than Potter.
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simons wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 16:04 Potter stalling over the contract deal.

Who never saw that coming? 🙈
 
 
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Au3DrNK1N/

Jordan sussed Graham Guardiola out and why I said yesterday he's taking the piss by dragging it all out with 2 Clubs fawning over him whilst 2 managers continue to carry on in limbo. The narcissism of the bloke is certainly 'next level'.
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Bilic is out of work, at the moment. I'd be quite happy giving him a short term contract for the rest of the season and then go from there.
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Potter stalling over the contract deal.

Who never saw that coming? 🙈
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Just in case you missed it 1st time Django, I'll dig out the exact quote for you, as I wouldn't want you to miss it again...

“Above all, for our fans, we are very disappointed. We had 6,000 fans that travelled. They are going to travel a lot of hours now, maybe tomorrow they are going to work. “It is a pity, because we would have liked to give them one win. But that’s why we say ‘so sorry’ to them and be ready to do our best in the next match against Brentford [in the Premier League on Saturday]. It’s going to be a very important match for us.

 
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Sullivan allegedly is not a fan of Potter. Brady obviously is as she’s done extensive searches and data analysis of his tactics, systems, how they fit to the players at the Swedish? Club he got promted and won a cup with, Swansea who wanted to renew his contract but Brighton paid compo for him and at Brighton and Chelsea. Just kidding, he’s a mate of her hubby and her from their days at Brum. Iron cast guarantee of success. Sullivan was at Brum and not keen on him?  Seems like the ideal choice after considering that? 
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Django

You mean managers like this who also don't wear Club badges and colours on the touchline...

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As for not apologising to the fans vs Teams like Liverpool...



https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 84202.html

Any more myths that need busting..
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Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:50
Django wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:42
Russ of the BML" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:14
 
I am not sure I fully agree. These blokes earn an absolute fortune. They know its a results business. They know that the tide can turn very quickly and time waits for no man. That's why they earn so much as it can be unpredictable. Whilst, on a human level, I feel for him with his dad, he's not the first bloke his age who's dad has passed. Life can be cruel but you have to wade on. Unfortunately, for me, Lope didn't earn enough credit for this issue to be a consideration. And, Antonio, unfortunate yes, but to Lope its only really like your striker getting injured. It's happened to thousands of managers before him. 

I agree with your sentiments on Sullivan and the club is a circus. It's embarrassing. Sullivan has no place in the modern game. But, let's be honest, regardless of all the outside factors, Lope has been a terrible, terrible appointment and needs to go. The club have to talk to other managers before they push the button. 
 
Have to agree. It’s not been ideal at all but he’s done very little to warrant vast amounts of sympathy. It’s not just the poor tactics and signings. He hardly mentions fans, he doesn’t wear the badge, if his touch line antics are from a passion - then it’s very poorly directed, the language issue shouldn’t be barrier to connect with our fans - see bielsa. 
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It doesn’t matter who he is, or if he was ever any good at his job, this is an horrible way to treat an employee and none of us with more ordinary jobs would ever accept such treatment.

It is wholly irregular even in football for this to happen and that’s down more to decency and good practice as well as professional reputation. Doesn’t West Ham have an HR team?
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Fonseca? For fucks sake.
We really are the most pathetic amateurish clown club in the world. Thanks again porn dwarf
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Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:50
Django wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:42
Russ of the BML" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:14
 
I am not sure I fully agree. These blokes earn an absolute fortune. They know its a results business. They know that the tide can turn very quickly and time waits for no man. That's why they earn so much as it can be unpredictable. Whilst, on a human level, I feel for him with his dad, he's not the first bloke his age who's dad has passed. Life can be cruel but you have to wade on. Unfortunately, for me, Lope didn't earn enough credit for this issue to be a consideration. And, Antonio, unfortunate yes, but to Lope its only really like your striker getting injured. It's happened to thousands of managers before him. 

I agree with your sentiments on Sullivan and the club is a circus. It's embarrassing. Sullivan has no place in the modern game. But, let's be honest, regardless of all the outside factors, Lope has been a terrible, terrible appointment and needs to go. The club have to talk to other managers before they push the button. 
 
Have to agree. It’s not been ideal at all but he’s done very little to warrant vast amounts of sympathy. It’s not just the poor tactics and signings. He hardly mentions fans, he doesn’t wear the badge, if his touch line antics are from a passion - then it’s very poorly directed, the language issue shouldn’t be barrier to connect with our fans - see bielsa. 
More myths...

Fuck me. I mean during the games. And he’s never apologised to fans following the various dickings! See Liverpool away in the cup where so many traveled. 
I get that you like him, you don’t need to labour the point.
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John Coffey" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:18
Russ of the BML" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:08 I think Potter will go to Everton. And that will simply be that they will offer him more than a six month contract. If I was Potter I would be wondering why it is only a six month contract and asking for more. I suppose it depends on the content of the conversation Tim and Potter had. Was it just to finalise terms? Was it just to finalise transfer budget and plans for the squad? If it was Tim begging him to come and work for that horrible little odious dwarf, then I fear it won't happen. 

Would I be annoyed at losing Potter now? I suppose I would. There are better coaches available out there. But I do think he would be a good fit and it would mean longer to endure Lope. 

They should've offered Potter a longer contract, got it sorted and sacked Lope. 
I agree. But, if as you say, Potter met Steidten to iron out details of transfer budgets and squad plans, then surely by that point the details of the contract offered would have been known? And if as people are saying it’s only 6 months, and Potter wanted longer (and no one could blame him), why was that meeting held? 
 
 
All very fair points. 
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stewey wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:47 I think the hold up with potter iscc CV just the length of the contract
That's what the latest gossip is and doesn't sound too of the mark tbf, so maybe it will be two and a half years. Unlike some I don't see Potter at Everton.
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goose wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:54 According to Ex (yes I know) we enquired about Marco Silva but were put off by the £8m it would cost in compensation.
See also preferred Summer choice, Amorim. 
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According to Ex (yes I know) we enquired about Marco Silva but were put off by the £8m it would cost in compensation.
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Manuel wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:50 Fonseca now in the picture.
Brilliant. A team that can’t defend hires a manager who can’t defend. What could go wrong?

COYI will have a field day listing out the jobs he failed in & got sacked.
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Django wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:42
Russ of the BML" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:14
Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:04 Whatever anyone thinks of Lopetegui as a manager, this treatment of him is fucking disgusting. The commitment he has shown the Club, rushing back to work after his Father's funeral not hiding from his responsibilities (See Avram/Yom Kippur) to manage us through all the shit he's had to endure like Antonio's near death experience, as well as his Father's continued ill health yet never uses excuses and just gets on with it in dignity, only to be treated like a 2 bob cսnt. I wouldn't blame him if he now walked.

I hate that classless scumbag in charge of our Club like you wouldn't believe.

Fucking Circus. 🎪💩
 
I am not sure I fully agree. These blokes earn an absolute fortune. They know its a results business. They know that the tide can turn very quickly and time waits for no man. That's why they earn so much as it can be unpredictable. Whilst, on a human level, I feel for him with his dad, he's not the first bloke his age who's dad has passed. Life can be cruel but you have to wade on. Unfortunately, for me, Lope didn't earn enough credit for this issue to be a consideration. And, Antonio, unfortunate yes, but to Lope its only really like your striker getting injured. It's happened to thousands of managers before him. 

I agree with your sentiments on Sullivan and the club is a circus. It's embarrassing. Sullivan has no place in the modern game. But, let's be honest, regardless of all the outside factors, Lope has been a terrible, terrible appointment and needs to go. The club have to talk to other managers before they push the button. 
 
Have to agree. It’s not been ideal at all but he’s done very little to warrant vast amounts of sympathy. It’s not just the poor tactics and signings. He hardly mentions fans, he doesn’t wear the badge, if his touch line antics are from a passion - then it’s very poorly directed, the language issue shouldn’t be barrier to connect with our fans - see bielsa. 
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Fonseca now in the picture.
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I think the hold up with potter iscc CV just the length of the contract
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Russ of the BML" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:14
Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 14:04 Whatever anyone thinks of Lopetegui as a manager, this treatment of him is fucking disgusting. The commitment he has shown the Club, rushing back to work after his Father's funeral not hiding from his responsibilities (See Avram/Yom Kippur) to manage us through all the shit he's had to endure like Antonio's near death experience, as well as his Father's continued ill health yet never uses excuses and just gets on with it in dignity, only to be treated like a 2 bob cսnt. I wouldn't blame him if he now walked.

I hate that classless scumbag in charge of our Club like you wouldn't believe.

Fucking Circus. 🎪💩
 
I am not sure I fully agree. These blokes earn an absolute fortune. They know its a results business. They know that the tide can turn very quickly and time waits for no man. That's why they earn so much as it can be unpredictable. Whilst, on a human level, I feel for him with his dad, he's not the first bloke his age who's dad has passed. Life can be cruel but you have to wade on. Unfortunately, for me, Lope didn't earn enough credit for this issue to be a consideration. And, Antonio, unfortunate yes, but to Lope its only really like your striker getting injured. It's happened to thousands of managers before him. 

I agree with your sentiments on Sullivan and the club is a circus. It's embarrassing. Sullivan has no place in the modern game. But, let's be honest, regardless of all the outside factors, Lope has been a terrible, terrible appointment and needs to go. The club have to talk to other managers before they push the button. 
 
 
Have to agree. It’s not been ideal at all but he’s done very little to warrant vast amounts of sympathy. It’s not just the poor tactics and signings. He hardly mentions fans, he doesn’t wear the badge, if his touch line antics are from a passion - then it’s very poorly directed, the language issue shouldn’t be barrier to connect with our fans - see bielsa. 
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