Lee Bowyer

[LeroysBoots]

Great insight in to what a shocking set up we were under Glenn Roeder https://youtu.be/Ph2zqQo843I?si=0OKeUrFQGQdY-iI_

[frank_booth]

"His interview was great. I’m almost 50, quite forgetful. I remember wincing when he signed. Woke wanker I guess. Compared to some people today he was Peppa the Pig. Love the honesty."

[BubblesCyprus]

Good bloke IMO the day BC junior was matchday mascot Bowyer was injured and away from the ground Junior asked about him with organisers. About 2 weeks later back here received a handwritten note from Bowyer saying he was sorry he missed his big day as mascot.

[zico]

"I don't think Roeder was a bad coach, far from it, probably a very good coach, but many good coaches don't make good managers, the perfect examples all being at Man United under Fergie in McClaren, Kidd, Meulensteen and Phelan. All successful coaches under Ferguson but none successful as managers. You have to be able to ""manage"" players and have a ruthless streak. Harry had that when he kicked out the likes of long term Ronnie Boyce. Not nice to do, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't but you have to0 do it. Even Bonzo whilst not really management material had to end the careers of Parkesy, Dev and Tony Gale. Not easy when you have been team mates for years. I was watching the Overlap last night on You Tube with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Seemed quite affected by his Man United experience but you can just tell by listening he was in over his head dealing with boards and ego's."

[Fifth Column]

I played in the same football team as Lee Bowyer at start of secondary school. In fact I was the captain. But that's because I liked kicking people a lot and shouting rather than being very good.

[Northern Sold]

Far Cough 10:28 Thu Mar 7 Ha Ha ha ha... that's TWICE you've me made me LOL in the last few days... I like old krusty Cough... he's FUNNY!!! For newbies that don't know.... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/dailybung/5229931/Andrei-Arshavins-wife-in-WAG-heaven-at-Arsenal.html *does Telegraph 4 sign *

[lab]

Far Cough 10:28 Ag ! Plenty on here won’t know about a certain incident!

[Kaiser Zoso]

"Yeah that fits, Team H. It was so unbelievable that it smacked of a put up job."

[Far Cough]

What were you doing outside Harrods waiting for Mohamed Al-Fayed to throw you his shirt?

[Huffers]

"A couple of months after the protest, I saw the same ringleaders outside harrods protesting against fur."

[Hammer Oz]

Remember Joey Cole telling us how good he was...... prior to leaving.. So every time a player talks up a manager its bollocks as they will leave when it goes pear shaped

[chevy chase]

MaryMillingtonsGhost St Bernard’s Bethnal Green secondary was the toughest school. I went to an introduction day there before I left primary. Cousin in the playground said “don’t come here”. The school ended up closing down and they all got put in Phillip Howard/Blessed John Roche.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

"Dwight Van Mann 7:48 Bowyers old man, Dave (iirc) used to drink in the LP social club. Nice bloke, although had a dodgy tash."

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

"No. Sir Phillip Howard ran ‘the manor’. BB were never interested/never turned up, especially when LP had the annexe in Limehouse. I attended LP, 77-81."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Shame there wasn't the correction on Curbishley. Might have jogged a few memories. Saw an interview with Curbishley recently about his regret for leaving and his decision to reject any easy way back in to football. Was grateful to Sullivan sorting out his pay off quickly after G&S's takeover which held up any chances of getting back in initially.

[Pub Bigot]

"Bow Boys. Dump of a school, and not too many come away of made a success of themselves. The most famous person to come out of the place was Ashley Cole."

[only1billybonds]

Pub Bigot. Where in Bow did you go to school?

[chevy chase]

"Played Football with him as a kid. Can’t remember what team. Possibly Westward Boys. Jason Tindall, (Newcastle Assistant Manager) was in our team too."

[Tomshardware]

"Willtell what a disgusting post. Most people in the game held Roeder in high regard as a coach, he was involved with England. People like Defoe always talked highly of him. He maybe was out of his depth but have some respect."

[Pub Bigot]

Wankers went to Langdon. Bow run the manor. SWT!

[Dwight Van Mann]

nothing special in the school team at Langdon Park. Luckily his old man was involved at Charlton. Got to where he did through graft rather than ability. Good lad though

[REALGSA]

Was a fantastic player at Leeds. He had previous for bad behavour at Bow Mcdonalds and spouted something racist they said. Plus that fight in Leeds. Also that fight on the pitch vs he own teammate Dyer. But in his first spell I was dissapointed in his performances. The protest on his debut outside the ground I felt they were not even supporters just a rent a mob pitching up!

[REALGSA]

Was a fantastic player at Leeds. He had previous for bad behavour at Bow Mcdonalds and spouted something racist they said. Plus that fight in Leeds. Also that fight on the pitch vs he own teammate Dyer. But in his first spell I was dissapointed in his performances. The protest on his debut outside the ground I felt they were not even supporters just a rent a mob pitching up!

[Nagel]

"I seem to remember that in Roeder's first season, people involved at the club were saying that we were more professional than we'd been under Redknapp, which goes to show how bad it had been. This is one example, from an interview with Kanoute, a couple of months after Roeder started: ""It is more professional but it won't improve in one or two weeks - or two months. ""We have to wait for this way of working to settle; it will get easier but there is no secret, you have to work hard. Detailing the changes made under Glenn Roeder, he adds: ""It is the whole thing: eating well, having a good rest, getting the staff who look after us a little bit - this year it is much better. But he does not want to imply criticism of Harry Redknapp, and adds: ""I miss him a little bit because he was a nice man and I was happy with him too. ""But now it is different; the club wanted to change a little and now I am happy because everyone worked harder."""

[southbankbornnbred]

"Good chat with Bowyer, that. It's nothing we didn't know, of course, when it comes to Roeder and the 2002/03 season - but it is interesting hearing from people who came into the club mid-season just how bad things were on the training ground etc. That was on Roeder, of course. Because he simply wasn't a manager of any ability or standing. He was the man who put out the cones for Redknapp. He didn't know how to generate a professional culture like Bowyer was used to at Leeds. But the culture of West Ham by then had taken hold over a few seasons - and Redknapp (who I liked as manager in the 90s) has to take some responsibility for it, too. Towards the back end of the Redknapp era things started to get very lax - hence Di Canio was always mouthing off that the training wasn't intense enough etc. Interestingly, Kanoute and others have said that the culture at West Ham just slid behind other professional teams over a number of years - and the likes of Bowyer and Les Ferdinand spotted it the moment they walked through the gates. But that's when you need a good chairman and chief exec, as well as manager, because you have to have good people who know football and can take a step back from the day-to-day shit to assess where you are and whether you're doing the basics right. We had Terry Brown and his ill-informed acolytes overseeing Roeder and a deeply inexperienced coaching staff (no offence meant to Sarge, who I loved as a player, but he'd barely coached before he came in as assistant manager). What a shitshow."

[Willtell]

"I watched it this morning and it kept my attention for half an hour or so unlike so many other WH podcasts. He made me laugh about Newcastle being another country where it was so cold! Yes the Roeder comments were eye opening. I always said Roeder was a ""chinless wonder"" because that's how he looked. A school teacher more than a football manager. Yet everyone said he was a terrific coach. A bit like the media and ex-players all say the same about Moyes. Bowyer said Roeder asked him how they stopped giving away set piece goals at Leeds. His answer was we practice for them... Shouldn't speak ill of the dead but to go from Redknapp to Roeder was so backward looking but let's not forget what a wanker Terence Brown was in those days..."