I want this costly clueless conniving cսnt gone. We have suffered persistent injuries to expensive key signings this season, as well as others who just don't cut it against Premier League opposition, or have suspect temperaments/injury records previously known and they're all his picks. He clearly doesn't do his due diligence well enough as one of the stories of the season has been us suffering injuries to key new signings..
Fullkrug £27M - Suspect Injury History
Todibo £34M (if avoid relegation) - Suspect Injury History/Suspect attitude problems at Barcelona
Mavropanos £19M - Just utter dogshit (and ironically probably now out injured as well due to concussion for 10 days like Fabianski)
Alvarez £35M - Nowhere near good enough for the money we spent on him looking lost and slow as arseholes against Premier League opposition
Kudus is just about the only costly signing that's come off that's genuine quality, although even he now has suspect temperament issues when getting himself a 5 match ban for fighting an entire Spurs Team in front of everyone. So fuck knows what he's also like behind the scenes..
Just sick of the persistent injuries to key players that has derailed our season and continues to do so on tonights evidence with Fullcrock, as well as all the unsettling bollocks behind the scenes. There's no smoke without fire and I now make that not 1 but 2 Managers in quick succession that allegedly told him to stay away from the Training Ground. It makes me wonder whether he is our Club Mole all along who has persistently leaked things out to the Media from either within the Dressing Room/Snaps with managers behind another managers back that then coincidentally get leaked at just the right time? A manager who was humiliated in the media for taking at least 2 Training sessions and possibly a 3rd on the last day he eventually got sacked and the whole thing was handled terribly which again points to Steidten and his breakdown in his 2nd relationship with a manager. And he's supposed to work with them, not against them!
On the radio yesterday when discussing Steidten someone mentioned how odd they thought it was to see him down by the players tunnel/dressing room area as well as doing interviews with TNT during the Chelsea loss earlier in the season and they thought good Technical Directors aren't seen front and centre as much as this one always appears to be. He's certainly got an impressive holiday snap collection he leaks to the media as soon as he takes them.
The longer this season has panned out the more and more I've thought something just doesn't sit right at the Club and I genuinely think he has been at the heart of a lot of our issues. I suppose that's why it's now been known his position is under review and they're already on to him, hence why Potter swerved the Steidten question possibly knowing something we don't about him.
Or does anyone still believe he's the right man to guide our Club making such big decisions within it?
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I get that MO - and he was nowhere near Soler and the hapless Rodriguez - however I actually think it's fair and reasonable to make an assessment on the basis of Alvarez, Mavropanos and Fullkrug alone.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jan 2025, 03:43Yep. The Mexican and Dutch Leagues seem to be about his level or slower paced International Football where it's less demanding than the Prem. Old Steidten loves a Carthorse having added to it with the perma-crock Fullkrug.
Surely we can all see Fullkrug was a panic buy when Sullivan wouldn't give him the money to close the Duran deal, which was where all the effort had gone?
It was late in the window, we needed a striker across the line, Fullkrug's injury record had been good for the last two seasons, and he knew the player and his personality. In fairness the only issue with Fullkrug at West Ham has been his fitness. When he's played he's looked an intelligent footballer who knows his strengths and how to use them.
Since a calf injury in 20/21 season he's only missed about 16 games and all we're short absences, so whilst he's had lots of niggle injuries over his career, post 20/21, he's been pretty solid. We've been unlucky.
The only issue I can see with us having. Bought Fullkrug was the amount of money he cost. The player is a decent one, his recent injury record wasn't scary, and by all accounts he's a good voice in the dressing room too.
The fuck up was Duran which was partly on Steidten, but heavily on Sullivan too who got jittery once the cost went up to 40m.
It was late in the window, we needed a striker across the line, Fullkrug's injury record had been good for the last two seasons, and he knew the player and his personality. In fairness the only issue with Fullkrug at West Ham has been his fitness. When he's played he's looked an intelligent footballer who knows his strengths and how to use them.
Since a calf injury in 20/21 season he's only missed about 16 games and all we're short absences, so whilst he's had lots of niggle injuries over his career, post 20/21, he's been pretty solid. We've been unlucky.
The only issue I can see with us having. Bought Fullkrug was the amount of money he cost. The player is a decent one, his recent injury record wasn't scary, and by all accounts he's a good voice in the dressing room too.
The fuck up was Duran which was partly on Steidten, but heavily on Sullivan too who got jittery once the cost went up to 40m.
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It's probably better to return to this subject once we've seen what movement happens in the current window.
I got the impression that he had actually identified several potential players* only for Sullivan (or, most probably, his agent string-pullers) vetoing them.
* - and, no, I can't list them, but I do recall that several names from South America were bobbing about a while back.
I got the impression that he had actually identified several potential players* only for Sullivan (or, most probably, his agent string-pullers) vetoing them.
* - and, no, I can't list them, but I do recall that several names from South America were bobbing about a while back.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jan 2025, 01:16To be honest, it's difficult for anyone to know exactly what's going on inside our World infamous Football Circus..
That's about the only bit you've got right in this thread.
Personally I never rated Steidten as much as others did in the beginning, because he was being given too much credit for Leverkusen's success. Seeing as there were two people above him, both an MD of sport (Voller) and a director of football (Rolfes), it was hard to gauge how much influence he actually had. By the same token it's ridiculous to blame Steidten for our current woes when we know for sure that he hasn't been the one responsible for choosing the coaches or many of the players.
Personally I never rated Steidten as much as others did in the beginning, because he was being given too much credit for Leverkusen's success. Seeing as there were two people above him, both an MD of sport (Voller) and a director of football (Rolfes), it was hard to gauge how much influence he actually had. By the same token it's ridiculous to blame Steidten for our current woes when we know for sure that he hasn't been the one responsible for choosing the coaches or many of the players.
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Steidten is a liability, of that there is little doubt, however he wanted Hurzeler or Amorim and NOT Lopetegui so at least he's got that going for him.
Anyhow MA, I see you've now decided where your angst is to be directed now that your boyfriend has been given the boot. I thought it was going to be the (in your words) "classless prick", Potter.
Injuries are "derailing the season now" but they most certainly weren't under the first 4 months of Lopetegui's tenure when we were affected less than any other team in the league. He did that derailing all by himself
Anyhow MA, I see you've now decided where your angst is to be directed now that your boyfriend has been given the boot. I thought it was going to be the (in your words) "classless prick", Potter.
Injuries are "derailing the season now" but they most certainly weren't under the first 4 months of Lopetegui's tenure when we were affected less than any other team in the league. He did that derailing all by himself
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factory seconds" wrote: ↑11 Jan 2025, 01:35 he was brought in by kretinsky as his proxy when the windfall we'd be getting from rice became apparent. the czech is an astute businessman and not a chancing barrowboy, as such, he hires professionals to delegate his responsibilities to.
sullivan doesn't like this, he's never liked it, and if you need any evidence of that i refer you to just about any social/mainstream media flapping skull that has ever had the ear of a certain "senior source", and the near incessant hit pieces on steidten. if it was sullivan's decision he'd have never been hired and been binned off lively.
kretinsky on the other hand will have his own performance evaluation and he'll be the one who ultimately decides his employee's fate. he will certainly be aware of the ins and outs of every deal made, and the whole propaganda charade sullivan is orchestrating through his shit rags that only the gullible and braindead are susceptible to will be of little interest to him.
i don't know what to make of steidten, i don't know exactly his involvement or how he operates, but the fact that sullivan seems to have a different picture of him on every number of the dartboard but is powerless to do anything about it is something that makes my day a little bit sunnier.
sullivan will be absolutely hurting. he made one big decision against all advice (not least of that steidten) and it cost the club millions and strangled our season in the cradle. now we've gone and got a bloke who he famously doesn't rate ("it was all tony bloom's computer") to clear up the mess and every success under him we have will just drive the nails in deeper.
Paragraphed perfectly.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jan 2025, 03:43Yep. The Mexican and Dutch Leagues seem to be about his level or slower paced International Football where it's less demanding than the Prem. Old Steidten loves a Carthorse having added to it with the perma-crock Fullkrug.
I think Lop bought in the carthorse Rodriguez.
I'm fucked off, out of the FA Cup before the Saturday ffs. Depressing.
I'm fucked off, out of the FA Cup before the Saturday ffs. Depressing.
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Yep. The Mexican and Dutch Leagues seem to be about his level or slower paced International Football where it's less demanding than the Prem. Old Steidten loves a Carthorse having added to it with the perma-crock Fullkrug.
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LJC
Oh right and where was that confirmed, or is it just an opinion (of which I hope is right)? Last it was suggested there's a 50/50 chance he'll go and he is currently under review.
I've then created a worthwhile debate to be had over such an important position at the Club, so debate it or fuck off out of it instead of moaning like a bitch.
Oh right and where was that confirmed, or is it just an opinion (of which I hope is right)? Last it was suggested there's a 50/50 chance he'll go and he is currently under review.
I've then created a worthwhile debate to be had over such an important position at the Club, so debate it or fuck off out of it instead of moaning like a bitch.
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he was brought in by kretinsky as his proxy when the windfall we'd be getting from rice became apparent. the czech is an astute businessman and not a chancing barrowboy, as such, he hires professionals to delegate his responsibilities to.
sullivan doesn't like this, he's never liked it, and if you need any evidence of that i refer you to just about any social/mainstream media flapping skull that has ever had the ear of a certain "senior source", and the near incessant hit pieces on steidten. if it was sullivan's decision he'd have never been hired and been binned off lively.
kretinsky on the other hand will have his own performance evaluation and he'll be the one who ultimately decides his employee's fate. he will certainly be aware of the ins and outs of every deal made, and the whole propaganda charade sullivan is orchestrating through his shit rags that only the gullible and braindead are susceptible to will be of little interest to him.
i don't know what to make of steidten, i don't know exactly his involvement or how he operates, but the fact that sullivan seems to have a different picture of him on every number of the dartboard but is powerless to do anything about it is something that makes my day a little bit sunnier.
sullivan will be absolutely hurting. he made one big decision against all advice (not least of that steidten) and it cost the club millions and strangled our season in the cradle. now we've gone and got a bloke who he famously doesn't rate ("it was all tony bloom's computer") to clear up the mess and every success under him we have will just drive the nails in deeper.
sullivan doesn't like this, he's never liked it, and if you need any evidence of that i refer you to just about any social/mainstream media flapping skull that has ever had the ear of a certain "senior source", and the near incessant hit pieces on steidten. if it was sullivan's decision he'd have never been hired and been binned off lively.
kretinsky on the other hand will have his own performance evaluation and he'll be the one who ultimately decides his employee's fate. he will certainly be aware of the ins and outs of every deal made, and the whole propaganda charade sullivan is orchestrating through his shit rags that only the gullible and braindead are susceptible to will be of little interest to him.
i don't know what to make of steidten, i don't know exactly his involvement or how he operates, but the fact that sullivan seems to have a different picture of him on every number of the dartboard but is powerless to do anything about it is something that makes my day a little bit sunnier.
sullivan will be absolutely hurting. he made one big decision against all advice (not least of that steidten) and it cost the club millions and strangled our season in the cradle. now we've gone and got a bloke who he famously doesn't rate ("it was all tony bloom's computer") to clear up the mess and every success under him we have will just drive the nails in deeper.
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factory seconds" wrote: ↑11 Jan 2025, 00:28 you could write for claret and hugh.
steidten is kretinsky's man on the inside and he's going nowhere, there's a power struggle going on and sullivan is wounded after his enormous fuckup in strongarming lopetegui in, so he's going 1000mph on the usual propaganda outlets to deflect.
Oh sorry, I missed which close source to the Club confirmed he was solely Kretinskys man and had nothing to do with Sullivan. Even though Jack Sullivan confirmed his cretinous Father interviewed him, as well as Kretinsky did after a Boardroom vote on it all..
To be honest, it's difficult for anyone to know exactly what's going on inside our World infamous Football Circus..
To be honest, it's difficult for anyone to know exactly what's going on inside our World infamous Football Circus..
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you could write for claret and hugh.
steidten is kretinsky's man on the inside and he's going nowhere, there's a power struggle going on and sullivan is wounded after his enormous fuckup in strongarming lopetegui in, so he's going 1000mph on the usual propaganda outlets to deflect.
steidten is kretinsky's man on the inside and he's going nowhere, there's a power struggle going on and sullivan is wounded after his enormous fuckup in strongarming lopetegui in, so he's going 1000mph on the usual propaganda outlets to deflect.
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That's not an either/or scenario for me, as I actually want to fuck off Brady and Sullivan as well.
The outcome I now want is for Kretinsky to finally buy the Porn Dwarf out once and for all so we can rid our Club of this cancer and start afresh. Will it happen? Possibly not but that is my only hope that I'm very careful to wish for...
SSB OUT - All as bad as each other
The outcome I now want is for Kretinsky to finally buy the Porn Dwarf out once and for all so we can rid our Club of this cancer and start afresh. Will it happen? Possibly not but that is my only hope that I'm very careful to wish for...
SSB OUT - All as bad as each other
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Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 23:16 Agreed. You all might recall I had the balls to call out 'guru Tim' and label the summer transfer window a disaster very early in the season whilst others were lapping up the expenditure and claiming we had 'won' the window.
I also stated in the summer that Summerville will prove to be the best signing of the lot as I really rated him. Whilst the likes of Fullkrug, Rodriquez, Soler, Kilman and Todibo would be flops and that Guilherme was a massive waste of money like Fullkrug and Kilman.
Hate to say I told you so...
Did you apply for the managers job? You definitely would have got it, such knowledge.
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Agreed. You all might recall I had the balls to call out 'guru Tim' and label the summer transfer window a disaster very early in the season whilst others were lapping up the expenditure and claiming we had 'won' the window.
I also stated in the summer that Summerville will prove to be the best signing of the lot as I really rated him. Whilst the likes of Fullkrug, Rodriquez, Soler, Kilman and Todibo would be flops and that Guilherme was a massive waste of money like Fullkrug and Kilman.
Hate to say I told you so...
I also stated in the summer that Summerville will prove to be the best signing of the lot as I really rated him. Whilst the likes of Fullkrug, Rodriquez, Soler, Kilman and Todibo would be flops and that Guilherme was a massive waste of money like Fullkrug and Kilman.
Hate to say I told you so...
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 23:11 I want this costly clueless conniving cսnt gone. We have suffered persistent injuries to expensive key signings this season, as well as others who just don't cut it against Premier League opposition, or have suspect temperaments/injury records previously known and they're all his picks. He clearly doesn't do his due diligence well enough as one of the stories of the season has been us suffering injuries to key new signings..
Fullkrug £27M - Suspect Injury History
Todibo £34M (if avoid relegation) - Suspect Injury History/Suspect attitude problems at Barcelona
Mavropanos £19M - Just utter dogshit (and ironically probably now out injured as well due to concussion for 10 days like Fabianski)
Alvarez £35M - Nowhere near good enough for the money we spent on him looking lost and slow as arseholes in the Premier League
Kudus is just about the only quality signing that's come off that's genuine quality, although even he now has suspect temperament issues when getting himself a 5 match ban for fighting an entire Spurs Team in front of everyone. So fuck knows what he's also like behind the scenes..
Just sick of the persistent injuries to key players that has derailed our season and continues to do so on tonights evidence with Fullcrock, as well as all the unsettling bollocks behind the scenes. There's no smoke without fire and I now make that not 1 but 2 Managers in quick succession that allegedly told him to stay away from the Training Ground. It makes me wonder whether he is our Club Mole all along who has persistently leaked things out to the Media from either within the Dressing Room/Snaps with managers behind another managers back that then coincidentally get leaked at just the right time? A manager who was humiliated in the media for taking at least 2 Training sessions and possibly a 3rd on the last day he eventually got sacked and the whole thing was handled terribly which again points to Steidten and his breakdown in his 2nd relationship with a manager. And he's supposed to work with them, not against them!
On the radio yesterday when discussing Steidten someone mentioned how odd they thought it was to see him down by the players tunnel/dressing room area as well as doing interviews with TNT during the Chelsea loss earlier in the season and they thought good Technical Directors aren't seen front and centre as much as this one always appears to be. He's certainly got an impressive holiday snap collection he leaks to the media as soon as he takes them.
The longer this season has panned out the more and more I've thought something just doesn't sit right at the Club and I genuinely think he has been at the heart of a lot of our issues. I suppose that's why it's now been known his position is under review and they're already on to him, hence why Potter swerved the Steidten question possibly knowing something we don't about him.
Or does anyone still believe he's the right man to guide our Club making such big decisions within it?
I'm conflicted on this. I agree with most of your rap sheet...but am fearful if he goes he doesn't get replaced with an Ashworth or similar, and instead it reverts to Sullivan. If that's the outcome I'd rather keep Steidten and see if he can learn from last mistakes.