David Moyes appointed Everton manager

[Fauxstralian]

2 and half year contract 

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

The achievement was more in line with winning the UEFA Cup in the 70s/80s, or the Cup Winners in the 90s.

Again, the only way you can seriously judge the standard of a competition is by the calibre of the clubs who compete in it.

UEFA cup in the 70s/80s was being won by the likes of Liverpool, Real Madrid, Juventus. 

Cup Winners Cup in the 90s by Man Utd, Arsenal, Barcelona...

That's a world away from the teams we faced in the Conference League.

[Takashi Miike]

I don't see genuine west ham fans belittling the inter-toto win, only cunts

[Iron Duke]

It is hard comparing today’s European competitions with the ones in previous decades. You could win the European Cup by beating a load of shit, but you had to actually win the league first to qualify. The same principles applied to the Cup Winners Cup.

The Conference League may be third rate, but you have to either win the League Cup or finish in the top 7 to enter. There were still a few decent teams in it when we won it (also a lot of shit). It has been weakened this year because the Europa League has been strengthened. You didn’t get Shamrock Rovers, Larne, TNS and Hearts in it two seasons ago.

It is nothing like the Intertoto and absolutely nobody celebrated winning that trophy. We may have celebrated the win in Metz and qualifying for the UEFA Cup, but no one wore the trophy as a badge of honour.

[Mad Ferret]

Yeah well tbf that’s wrong.

It’s clearly the 3rd tier trophy and that’s nothing to be ashamed of.

I don’t see Spurs putting down their two UEFA Cup wins because it was the 3rd tier trophy at the time?

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

Nobody said it was on a par with 1965. That was the 2nd tier Euro trophy at the time.

The achievement was more in line with winning the UEFA Cup in the 70s/80s, or the Cup Winners in the 90s.

Defo not on a par with winning a pre-season tournament.

Yes they did. twoleftfeet said it was on a par.

"It’s a major European trophy, it’s the same standard as the ECWC that we won in 1965 and that’s considered major."

[Mad Ferret]

Not really the same as the ECWC because you could have teams finishing second in other major leagues in that. 

Any PL team entering the conference should win it. 

Makes me laugh everyone lauds the Premier league and how good it is and how players from other leagues aren't good enough.. We could cherry pick Ajax's best players, that definitely wasn't the case when we won in. 65, wasn't our squad worth more than the other 7 teams together in the quarters? 

I love winning it, but definitely not on a par with 65

Nobody said it was on a par with 1965. That was the 2nd tier Euro trophy at the time.

The achievement was more in line with winning the UEFA Cup in the 70s/80s, or the Cup Winners in the 90s.

Defo not on a par with winning a pre-season tournament.

[Nutsin]

Reading this thread you’d think this site had gone all spursy.  





 

[Snodders' Beard]

0-1 flattered Everton a bit, they looked hopeless at simple short passes and their only out appears to be the full backs pumping it long to DCL (sound familiar?).

That press conference is something else though, deary me. Equal parts David Brant and Alan Partridge.

[fraser]

Not really the same as the ECWC because you could have teams finishing second in other major leagues in that. 

Any PL team entering the conference should win it. 

Makes me laugh everyone lauds the Premier league and how good it is and how players from other leagues aren't good enough.. We could cherry pick Ajax's best players, that definitely wasn't the case when we won in. 65, wasn't our squad worth more than the other 7 teams together in the quarters? 

I love winning it, but definitely not on a par with 65

[Lee Trundle]

feet's suggestion that someone else is obsessed with Moyes gave me a laugh, so he's done something good for the day.

[Gank]

Stupid? Is that what you’ve reverted to?

[twoleftfeet]

Imagine being so stupid, that you're arguing that UEFA's previous 3rd tier tournament wasn't UEFA's 3rd tier tournament, and in the same breath saying UEFA's current 3rd tier tournament is UEFA's 3rd tier tournament.

 

 

The intertoto was a qualifying tournament, it wasn’t third tier.

Google it.

When did West Ham “ fans “ become so stupid

It ranks up there with the Texaco cup, the Anglo Italian Cup, the Watneys cup and the Betway cup.

Bye lads

[Gank]

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

No it wasn’t something you could just enter like the FA Cup, we qualified via the FIFA Fair Play Award.

one of the other two winners that year was Juventus. Why would such a giant of football enter something if it was a pathetic no-mark tournament that even Millwall could enter?

They wouldn’t. It was a gateway to the UEFA Cup - it was the third-tier European competition.

Roma and Frankfurt won the conference, big clubs who embraced it fully.

I’m sorry you are wrong. We might have won fair play but we still had to apply to enter, which we did.

You have to apply to enter every competition, there have been many tales over the years of clubs ‘forgetting’ to enter the FA Cup. You don’t just get drawn.

As for your other point, of course they celebrated a trophy win, same as West Ham and Juventus celebrated the Intertoto win. We celebrated winning the Out Performance Cup as well and the opponents for that were always a lot better than those we faced in the Conference League.

[twoleftfeet]

"Roma and Frankfurt won the conference"

Frankfurt won the Europa League, you can't even get that right you cսnt

 

 

You are a sad little man who has an obsession with Moyes, he’s gone, move on, let it go. I have.

[Lee Trundle]

Imagine being so stupid, that you're arguing that UEFA's previous 3rd tier tournament wasn't UEFA's 3rd tier tournament, and in the same breath saying UEFA's current 3rd tier tournament is UEFA's 3rd tier tournament.

[only1billybonds]

Feet.

In actual competition, by any metric, the conference league is by far the easiest to win and there are reasons why Moyes only managed to get his hands on that one trophy. 

 

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

The year we were in the InterToto the biggest team in it was Juventus. In the Conference League I doubt that any of the teams taking part would last a single season in the Premier League, except maybe Lazio and Fiorentina. Both competitions are very much 3rd tier, regardless of the format or when the matches took place.

It's not anywhere near the same standard as the old ECWC either. That competition usually had some of the best teams of every major league taking part, which is why it was won by the likes of Barcelona, PSG, Juventus, Arsenal, Man Utd, Milan, Bayern Munich, etc.

[Takashi Miike]

"Roma and Frankfurt won the conference"

Frankfurt won the Europa League, you can't even get that right you cսnt

[twoleftfeet]

"you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t"

it simply was an easy tournament to win, the only hard game was Fiorentina, which he nearly fucked up. the players won that trophy, despite his constant negativity

You’re a sad little man, I can’t be bothered with you anymore

[twoleftfeet]

Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

 

don't be disingenuous, you may have been allowed to apply but it was only the team that finished highest in the table (of those applied teams) that qualified. I knew it wouldn't be long before you started spouting your pro moyes bollocks. fucking moyes united supporters

 

 

You silly man.

I’m merely pointing out that it’s a major European trophy, it’s irrelevant who the manager was.

Unlike you Moyes doesn’t live rent free in my head, he has gone and I’m thrilled with Potter.

[Takashi Miike]

"you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t"

it simply was an easy tournament to win, the only hard game was Fiorentina, which he nearly fucked up. the players won that trophy, despite his constant negativity

[twoleftfeet]

Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

No it wasn’t something you could just enter like the FA Cup, we qualified via the FIFA Fair Play Award.

one of the other two winners that year was Juventus. Why would such a giant of football enter something if it was a pathetic no-mark tournament that even Millwall could enter?

They wouldn’t. It was a gateway to the UEFA Cup - it was the third-tier European competition.

Roma and Frankfurt won the conference, big clubs who embraced it fully.

I’m sorry you are wrong. We might have won fair play but we still had to apply to enter, which we did.

[Takashi Miike]

Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

 

 

don't be disingenuous, you may have been allowed to apply but it was only the team that finished highest in the table (of those applied teams) that qualified. I knew it wouldn't be long before you started spouting your pro moyes bollocks. fucking moyes united supporters

[Gank]

Very sad indeed when Moyes haters start to sound like Spurs fans in attempting to put down West Ham’s achievements. Just to claim that Moyes didn’t win a major trophy with us.

Bizarre behaviour.

 

What I said was that Moyes is one of only two managers to have won the third tier European competition.

What you have said is ‘yeah but Redknapp’s doesn’t count’

So who is putting down West Ham’s achievements here?

[Gank]

Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

No it wasn’t something you could just enter like the FA Cup, we qualified via the FIFA Fair Play Award.

one of the other two winners that year was Juventus. Why would such a giant of football enter something if it was a pathetic no-mark tournament that even Millwall could enter?

They wouldn’t. It was a gateway to the UEFA Cup - it was the third-tier European competition.