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nychammer wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 18:12 The people have spoken and not for the first time. They voted Trump after 8 years of Obama and (perhaps incredibly) again after 4 years of Biden and the prospect of 'cackles' Harris. For the Democrats, they should have learned but some poor choices and messaging to reflect on and some rebuilding required.
Still, Democracy has prevailed and we shall whether we like it or not endure what comes.
Democary doesn't work and is the reason why then US is weaker. Republicism is better. This means the candidates for US presidency are coming from the elite. The best presidenst like George Bush have come from tjhis system. Since then the US has had mediocrity.
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goose wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 17:59BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 14:32Jeez but its been ruled out as untrue so again get your facts straight. Dear oh dear the muppets on here!I see the point has completely eluded you. Trump didn’t say this stuff - the BBC did.
you muppet.
Ah yes sorry thought you were referring to the "missing" Republican votes. Should learn to read fully ha ha
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The people have spoken and not for the first time. They voted Trump after 8 years of Obama and (perhaps incredibly) again after 4 years of Biden and the prospect of 'cackles' Harris. For the Democrats, they should have learned but some poor choices and messaging to reflect on and some rebuilding required.
Still, Democracy has prevailed and we shall whether we like it or not endure what comes.
Still, Democracy has prevailed and we shall whether we like it or not endure what comes.
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Hammer I am" wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 17:23Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 17:02Hammer I am" wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 15:53
Let's be honest the rhetoric he was spewing when he lost the election before last was borderline unhinged, he essentially whipped up his base to the point of an attempted coup, resulting in fatalities.
What nonsense. He asked for peaceful protest. He offered National Guard to help protect Capitol Hill. There was never an attempt at a coup. The police are on film aiding people towards and into Capitol Hill.Haha, righto, love these attempts to rewrite history, So what's the story in your tin foiled hatted brain? It was a conspiracy by the police to make Trump supporters look bad? Bet you were one of those that believed bisonhead was an illuminati plant because of his tattoo too, turned out it was from a computer game
It’s not rewriting history. It’s factual, and based on evidence easily attainable.
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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 14:32Jeez but its been ruled out as untrue so again get your facts straight. Dear oh dear the muppets on here!
I see the point has completely eluded you. Trump didn’t say this stuff - the BBC did.
you muppet.
you muppet.
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Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 17:02Hammer I am" wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 15:53
Let's be honest the rhetoric he was spewing when he lost the election before last was borderline unhinged, he essentially whipped up his base to the point of an attempted coup, resulting in fatalities.
What nonsense. He asked for peaceful protest. He offered National Guard to help protect Capitol Hill. There was never an attempt at a coup. The police are on film aiding people towards and into Capitol Hill.
Haha, righto, love these attempts to rewrite history, So what's the story in your tin foiled hatted brain? It was a conspiracy by the police to make Trump supporters look bad? Bet you were one of those that believed bisonhead was an illuminati plant because of his tattoo too, turned out it was from a computer game
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Hammer I am" wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 15:53
Let's be honest the rhetoric he was spewing when he lost the election before last was borderline unhinged, he essentially whipped up his base to the point of an attempted coup, resulting in fatalities.
What nonsense. He asked for peaceful protest. He offered National Guard to help protect Capitol Hill. There was never an attempt at a coup. The police are on film aiding people towards and into Capitol Hill.
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I can agree with some of that
I do get the appeal of him not being a classic politician, it IS refreshing for someone not to be afraid of offending the usual suspects, and yes he has carried out a couple of the promises that his was elected on, but they were easy quick wins. Once the low hanging fruit is picked I think his ego may take him to more extreme areas to get the worship from some of his more fringe support.
Let's be honest the rhetoric he was spewing when he lost the election before last was borderline unhinged, he essentially whipped up his base to the point of an attempted coup, resulting in fatalities. He's never shown any sort of reflection that any of what happened was bad. He's a narcissist sociopath, pretty much anyone that's ever worked with him has stated this. We'll see how far he's willing to go this time
I do get the appeal of him not being a classic politician, it IS refreshing for someone not to be afraid of offending the usual suspects, and yes he has carried out a couple of the promises that his was elected on, but they were easy quick wins. Once the low hanging fruit is picked I think his ego may take him to more extreme areas to get the worship from some of his more fringe support.
Let's be honest the rhetoric he was spewing when he lost the election before last was borderline unhinged, he essentially whipped up his base to the point of an attempted coup, resulting in fatalities. He's never shown any sort of reflection that any of what happened was bad. He's a narcissist sociopath, pretty much anyone that's ever worked with him has stated this. We'll see how far he's willing to go this time
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I'm not blind in any way, I can totally see why people find Trump unlikeable. But he was elected on promises he made and he is keeping them. The majority of yanks are sick and tired of all the DEI and pronoun shit, Trump has started to rid the federal institutions of this plague.
He has acted swiftly in regards to border control, again,something the American public voted for.
The whole tarrif issue is a case of wait and see, he could well be using scare tactics which worked perfectly well with Columbia the other day.
He doesn't act like a statesman because he isn't a Politician, thats how it works over there,anyone can run for office. And speaking if statesmanship, our current prime minister,our foreign secretary,the next UK ambassador to America and the current Mayor of London have at various times called him a national, white supremacist,racist etc. Why should he pay any of these (now grovelling) cunts one scintilla of respect?
No doubt he has lied but show meshe person in office who hasn't, in that respect, the're all as bad as each other. If you want an example of lying to gain power, look no further than our own Parliament or the promises made around the Brexit referendum.
Trump has been in office for a whole TWELVE says and in that time he's done more of what Americans want than the previous administration did in four years.
He has acted swiftly in regards to border control, again,something the American public voted for.
The whole tarrif issue is a case of wait and see, he could well be using scare tactics which worked perfectly well with Columbia the other day.
He doesn't act like a statesman because he isn't a Politician, thats how it works over there,anyone can run for office. And speaking if statesmanship, our current prime minister,our foreign secretary,the next UK ambassador to America and the current Mayor of London have at various times called him a national, white supremacist,racist etc. Why should he pay any of these (now grovelling) cunts one scintilla of respect?
No doubt he has lied but show meshe person in office who hasn't, in that respect, the're all as bad as each other. If you want an example of lying to gain power, look no further than our own Parliament or the promises made around the Brexit referendum.
Trump has been in office for a whole TWELVE says and in that time he's done more of what Americans want than the previous administration did in four years.
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Yep some people in here just cannot comprehend that if you're anti trump it doesn't t mean you supported Biden.
It's because they can only think in black and white, spending too much time on social media where everything's a dumbed down us v them argument.
There will also be a small number here so entrenched after spending time in the pro Trump, anti Vax, deep state, pizza gate, great reset flat earth rabbit hole they are beyond saving and will absolutely never accept anything that shakes their core beliefs
It's because they can only think in black and white, spending too much time on social media where everything's a dumbed down us v them argument.
There will also be a small number here so entrenched after spending time in the pro Trump, anti Vax, deep state, pizza gate, great reset flat earth rabbit hole they are beyond saving and will absolutely never accept anything that shakes their core beliefs
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only1billybonds wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 13:46 I'm really struggling to decide what pleases me most. Those with insane amounts of TDS or those still grappling with BDS. Of course, if you're lucky enough to find someone melting down over both in equal measure then that would be a fine time.
Only I dont actually support either Trump or Biden/Harris so dont have either. Peoples definition of a meltdown seems to be someone debating an issue or who has a strong opinion on something. But whats far worse than a strong opinion is the apathetic blindness from you and others to what he is doing and the way he acts.
The US have had some questionable Presidents like George W, Reagan, Clinton but Trumps ability to politic is non-existent makes them look like Henry Kissinger. He doesnt know how a statesman is supposed to act hes turned it into a circus with his billionaire cronies, the language he uses the idiotic things he says, you think that it doesnt matter that he lies or that he is about to crash the US economy with ridiculous tariiffs thatll start trade wars and markets to fall and Pension funds will be affected. Its not like we are safe from his bonkers policies. He thinks putting tariiffs on countries directly costs those countries, but if US consumers need those products theyll have to pay more for them or the more costly US products impacting inflation figures. It makes no sense.
But you carry on thinking hes a tough mother. What a guy! Yeah he does what he said he'd do. Putins a tough mother do you want him as prime minister? Trump promised to end the Ukraine war on day 1, now no one should have believed that so did he lie or was he stupid or did he just manipulate the electorate. He promised to bring interest rates down they are firmly fixed. Oil prices now at the levels before he was President. So what has he achieved apart from deporting a few thousand immigrants, sacking a load of people, pissing off FEMA and the FAA and banning Transgenderism.
The US have had some questionable Presidents like George W, Reagan, Clinton but Trumps ability to politic is non-existent makes them look like Henry Kissinger. He doesnt know how a statesman is supposed to act hes turned it into a circus with his billionaire cronies, the language he uses the idiotic things he says, you think that it doesnt matter that he lies or that he is about to crash the US economy with ridiculous tariiffs thatll start trade wars and markets to fall and Pension funds will be affected. Its not like we are safe from his bonkers policies. He thinks putting tariiffs on countries directly costs those countries, but if US consumers need those products theyll have to pay more for them or the more costly US products impacting inflation figures. It makes no sense.
But you carry on thinking hes a tough mother. What a guy! Yeah he does what he said he'd do. Putins a tough mother do you want him as prime minister? Trump promised to end the Ukraine war on day 1, now no one should have believed that so did he lie or was he stupid or did he just manipulate the electorate. He promised to bring interest rates down they are firmly fixed. Oil prices now at the levels before he was President. So what has he achieved apart from deporting a few thousand immigrants, sacking a load of people, pissing off FEMA and the FAA and banning Transgenderism.
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The fact that America could only provide a senile hair sniffer and a slum landlord with the attention span of a fish to choose from says a lot about them
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Yes they're all as crooked as each other without a doubt, I just can see how anyone can deny that Trump is.
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There's also the notion that 81,000,000 voters looked at the basement dwelling, child sniffing, demented potato and send YES, I want that dude running the free World...
Total fix.
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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 11:54THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 08:0015 millions votes rapidily appearing and then disappearing even quicker says otherwise.That is an assertion by bad loser Trump and there was absolutley no proof of that and was dismissed by all the US courts.
You need to check your facts before you make yourself look like an arse!
I thought this was a politics thread and would have some sensible fact based discussions you muppets seem totally oblivious to the dogs dinner Trump is making of his first couple of weeks in office. Anyone defending him or suggesting otherwise need to take a look over the pond before commenting.
Do you really think what the US do has no effect on the UK economy!?
The courts controlled by the most corrupt DOJ ever and Biden who pardoned every cսnt going for crimes that haven't surfaced yet?
It was rigged.
It was rigged.
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Jeez but its been ruled out as untrue so again get your facts straight. Dear oh dear the muppets on here!
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I'm really struggling to decide what pleases me most. Those with insane amounts of TDS or those still grappling with BDS. Of course, if you're lucky enough to find someone melting down over both in equal measure then that would be a fine time.
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Both sides have claimed rigged elections via missing votes, both sides wrong
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/milli ... -election/
Of course the trumpeter cult will disregard one and believe the other
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/milli ... -election/
Of course the trumpeter cult will disregard one and believe the other
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The 15m voters I’m guessing is a reference to the number of voters vs 2020.
As for his first few weeks in office, he’s done what he said he would do - which is exactly why people voted for him. You may not like it but they do.
The direct impact on you in this country is largely the impact of a stronger dollar. The stronger USD is being driven by Trump putting American people & American businesses first. The USD rate & the markets reaction shows it’s working.
personally I’d love a British prime minister to take a similar approach.
As for his first few weeks in office, he’s done what he said he would do - which is exactly why people voted for him. You may not like it but they do.
The direct impact on you in this country is largely the impact of a stronger dollar. The stronger USD is being driven by Trump putting American people & American businesses first. The USD rate & the markets reaction shows it’s working.
personally I’d love a British prime minister to take a similar approach.
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THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 08:0015 millions votes rapidily appearing and then disappearing even quicker says otherwise.
That is an assertion by bad loser Trump and there was absolutley no proof of that and was dismissed by all the US courts.
You need to check your facts before you make yourself look like an arse!
I thought this was a politics thread and would have some sensible fact based discussions you muppets seem totally oblivious to the dogs dinner Trump is making of his first couple of weeks in office. Anyone defending him or suggesting otherwise need to take a look over the pond before commenting.
Do you really think what the US do has no effect on the UK economy!?
You need to check your facts before you make yourself look like an arse!
I thought this was a politics thread and would have some sensible fact based discussions you muppets seem totally oblivious to the dogs dinner Trump is making of his first couple of weeks in office. Anyone defending him or suggesting otherwise need to take a look over the pond before commenting.
Do you really think what the US do has no effect on the UK economy!?
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THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑01 Feb 2025, 08:29Wow, how did he get so much sand in his vagina that far from the beach?
Yes cos nothing the yanks do has any effect on the rest of the world does it morons!
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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑31 Jan 2025, 23:11Who's Godwin? I think you'll find Ive been on here for years so no I dont lose!
Godwin Law, brother to Dennis. 