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[BillyJenningsBoots]

When you say ethnic cleansing are you talking about Hamas attacking Israel Zeb?

Billy,

you have TDS, being stuck on stupid is not an option.

I think You’re secretly shitting yourself because you’re worried it just might work.

Bit like how the Dem party are shitting themselves right now because DOGE are auditing all the wasteful Biden regime spending on foreign aid while people in North Carolina and Los Angeles are being told sorry, no money for you.

Funny it’s the very same people that hired over 80,000 more IRS agents to audit the tax payer. 

Don’t be surprised to learn that your boy Biden and his cronies were ne k deep on back handlers and corruption at the expense of the tax payer.

Certainly explains how they are all going ballistic right now.

 

Let me assure you redneck that this will never happen. It would require the agreement of the Arab States and no one in that region wants it, so unless Trump unilaterally enters Gaza, which will be an illegal move, its dead in the water.

You really have no idea about world politics do you. Congratulations you are now a fully fledged American idiot!

You talk of corruption you dont think all this effort by Trump wont end up with him lining his pockets. If Biden is found to be corrupt, which I would doubt any truth coming out of the US right now, at least Biden had the grace to hide it instead of waving it in the faces of the US nation.

Oh so you’re an advocate of letting them remain in the Stone Age. Got it. Very good Billy’

I wonder what Jordan and Egypt will do when they have a migrant crisis? Wonder if they will step up or will they tell the Palestinians sorry too bad we
dont have the money to burn in rebuilding your war zone.

Sommer you realize that Israel is going nowhere the better Billy. You obviously live in denial.

So you justify this land grab because the Isrealis have levelled their homeland. Wow that is great logic bomb the fuck out of them means they should leave their homeland!

I appreciate that is exactly what Isreal wants to happen now but dont you understand thats exactly why the Palestinians wont leave because they will never get their homes or their land back if they do. Unlike you that fucked off to be a redneck dork in the good ole US of A, they treasure their homeland however much its been bombed to oblivion.

You are happy for the Isrealis to recommence the genocide and to boot the Palestinians out of Gaza then out of the West Bank. Is that the end game you are looking forward to? But you do realise that wont end it even if upur wildest dreams did come true - it would start all over again. But as I keep saying it wont happen.

[THUNDERCLINT]

There's a landfill island in the Maldives give the terrorist supporting fuckers that, it's all they deserve after Oct 7th.

Meanwhile I'm looking forward to Gaza-a-lago.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Again someone is giving you a nice new home, and paying for it.
And Upton Park has been blown to pieces and is littered with unexploded bombs.

which one are you choosing?

You completely miss the point .... and clearly dont understand the concept of an analogy. The use of an analogy is not to exactly replicate the scenario (that wouldn't be an analogy would it) its to make the scenario simpler to understand for the stupid among us.

An analogy is a comparison between two things to show how they are similar.

There’s no similarity or parallel between Gaza and West Ham moving stadiums. That’s the point. But you carry on grasping for some of you wish.

He might have a point if West Ham fans invaded Spurs stadium, killed a load of people and took others hostage, as they want to wipe Spurs fans off the planet and claim their stadium is rightfully theirs.

Unless the analogy is that jealous Charlton fans are opposed to where Hamas get relocated?

[goose]

Jeez that wasnt my analogy was it... it was the move from The Boleyn to The London Stadium nice shiny and new but Upton Park was our shithole and our home!

Again someone is giving you a nice new home, and paying for it.
And Upton Park has been blown to pieces and is littered with unexploded bombs.

which one are you choosing?

You completely miss the point .... and clearly dont understand the concept of an analogy. The use of an analogy is not to exactly replicate the scenario (that wouldn't be an analogy would it) its to make the scenario simpler to understand for the stupid among us.

An analogy is a comparison between two things to show how they are similar.

There’s no similarity or parallel between Gaza and West Ham moving stadiums. That’s the point. But you carry on grasping for some of you wish.

[Nutsin]

When you say ethnic cleansing are you talking about Hamas attacking Israel Zeb?

Billy,

you have TDS, being stuck on stupid is not an option.

I think You’re secretly shitting yourself because you’re worried it just might work.

Bit like how the Dem party are shitting themselves right now because DOGE are auditing all the wasteful Biden regime spending on foreign aid while people in North Carolina and Los Angeles are being told sorry, no money for you.

Funny it’s the very same people that hired over 80,000 more IRS agents to audit the tax payer. 

Don’t be surprised to learn that your boy Biden and his cronies were ne k deep on back handlers and corruption at the expense of the tax payer.

Certainly explains how they are all going ballistic right now.

 

Let me assure you redneck that this will never happen. It would require the agreement of the Arab States and no one in that region wants it, so unless Trump unilaterally enters Gaza, which will be an illegal move, its dead in the water.

You really have no idea about world politics do you. Congratulations you are now a fully fledged American idiot!

You talk of corruption you dont think all this effort by Trump wont end up with him lining his pockets. If Biden is found to be corrupt, which I would doubt any truth coming out of the US right now, at least Biden had the grace to hide it instead of waving it in the faces of the US nation.

Oh so you’re an advocate of letting them remain in the Stone Age. Got it. Very good Billy’

I wonder what Jordan and Egypt will do when they have a migrant crisis? Wonder if they will step up or will they tell the Palestinians sorry too bad we
dont have the money to burn in rebuilding your war zone.

Sommer you realize that Israel is going nowhere the better Billy. You obviously live in denial.

Sooner*

[Nutsin]

Trump really has completely lost his marbles.
Everyone loves his ethnic cleansing plan my arse!
It is embarrassing.

When you say ethnic cleansing are you talking about Hamas attacking Israel Zeb?

Billy,

you have TDS, being stuck on stupid is not an option.

I think You’re secretly shitting yourself because you’re worried it just might work.

Bit like how the Dem party are shitting themselves right now because DOGE are auditing all the wasteful Biden regime spending on foreign aid while people in North Carolina and Los Angeles are being told sorry, no money for you.

Funny it’s the very same people that hired over 80,000 more IRS agents to audit the tax payer. 

Don’t be surprised to learn that your boy Biden and his cronies were ne k deep on back handlers and corruption at the expense of the tax payer.

Certainly explains how they are all going ballistic right now.

 

Let me assure you redneck that this will never happen. It would require the agreement of the Arab States and no one in that region wants it, so unless Trump unilaterally enters Gaza, which will be an illegal move, its dead in the water.

You really have no idea about world politics do you. Congratulations you are now a fully fledged American idiot!

You talk of corruption you dont think all this effort by Trump wont end up with him lining his pockets. If Biden is found to be corrupt, which I would doubt any truth coming out of the US right now, at least Biden had the grace to hide it instead of waving it in the faces of the US nation.

Oh so you’re an advocate of letting them remain in the Stone Age. Got it. Very good Billy’

I wonder what Jordan and Egypt will do when they have a migrant crisis? Wonder if they will step up or will they tell the Palestinians sorry too bad we
dont have the money to burn in rebuilding your war zone.

Sommer you realize that Israel is going nowhere the better Billy. You obviously live in denial.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

A better analogy would be if someone turfed you out of your home and blew it up then, after leaving you homeless for a year, generously offered you a delapidated prefab in Jaywick.

Both analogies end with you being moved to a shiny shithole you didnt want to go to and were sent there against your will!

I sort of did but missed the bit where they bombed the shit out you and killed half of your relatives.
This is unfiltered Trump we are getting now as he's surrounded himself with toadies. There are no adults left in the room.

I think we are agreeing... but why do you need an analogy to be exactly the same as the scenario you comparing it with. Thats not an analogy thats the same thing! 

[zebthecat]

A better analogy would be if someone turfed you out of your home and blew it up then, after leaving you homeless for a year, generously offered you a delapidated prefab in Jaywick.

Both analogies end with you being moved to a shiny shithole you didnt want to go to and were sent there against your will!

I sort of did but missed the bit where they bombed the shit out you and killed half of your relatives.
This is unfiltered Trump we are getting now as he's surrounded himself with toadies. There are no adults left in the room.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Financially speaking that’s a terrible analogy. If someone offered to buy my current home and offered me a brand new one just down the road for minimal cost, and offered to pay the upkeep for me……….. I’d snap their arm off.

Jeez that wasnt my analogy was it... it was the move from The Boleyn to The London Stadium nice shiny and new but Upton Park was our shithole and our home!

Again someone is giving you a nice new home, and paying for it.
And Upton Park has been blown to pieces and is littered with unexploded bombs.

which one are you choosing?

You completely miss the point .... and clearly dont understand the concept of an analogy. The use of an analogy is not to exactly replicate the scenario (that wouldn't be an analogy would it) its to make the scenario simpler to understand for the stupid among us.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

A better analogy would be if someone turfed you out of your home and blew it up then, after leaving you homeless for a year, generously offered you a delapidated prefab in Jaywick.

Both analogies end with you being moved to a shiny shithole you didnt want to go to and were sent there against your will!

[goose]

Im not far left... im just not stupid enough to think Trump is doing this for anyone other than himself! 

Relocation is a solution Ive already said that. But rather than imposing it on them, dont you think maybe having a region wide disussion with some real diplomats might help. Ive nothing against the principle it the way hes positioned it as a land grab and development into a condos.

Hmmm here's an anology for you how about if someone came a long to you and said you live in a shithole Im going to move you to a shiny new place that isnt your home whether you like it or not and that shiny new home is the London Stadium!

Financially speaking that’s a terrible analogy. If someone offered to buy my current home and offered me a brand new one just down the road for minimal cost, and offered to pay the upkeep for me……….. I’d snap their arm off.

Jeez that wasnt my analogy was it... it was the move from The Boleyn to The London Stadium nice shiny and new but Upton Park was our shithole and our home!

Again someone is giving you a nice new home, and paying for it.
And Upton Park has been blown to pieces and is littered with unexploded bombs.

which one are you choosing?

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Trump really has completely lost his marbles.
Everyone loves his ethnic cleansing plan my arse!
It is embarrassing.

When you say ethnic cleansing are you talking about Hamas attacking Israel Zeb?

Billy,

you have TDS, being stuck on stupid is not an option.

I think You’re secretly shitting yourself because you’re worried it just might work.

Bit like how the Dem party are shitting themselves right now because DOGE are auditing all the wasteful Biden regime spending on foreign aid while people in North Carolina and Los Angeles are being told sorry, no money for you.

Funny it’s the very same people that hired over 80,000 more IRS agents to audit the tax payer. 

Don’t be surprised to learn that your boy Biden and his cronies were ne k deep on back handlers and corruption at the expense of the tax payer.

Certainly explains how they are all going ballistic right now.

 

 

Let me assure you redneck that this will never happen. It would require the agreement of the Arab States and no one in that region wants it, so unless Trump unilaterally enters Gaza, which will be an illegal move, its dead in the water.

You really have no idea about world politics do you. Congratulations you are now a fully fledged American idiot!

You talk of corruption you dont think all this effort by Trump wont end up with him lining his pockets. If Biden is found to be corrupt, which I would doubt any truth coming out of the US right now, at least Biden had the grace to hide it instead of waving it in the faces of the US nation.

[zebthecat]

A better analogy would be if someone turfed you out of your home and blew it up then, after leaving you homeless for a year, generously offered you a delapidated prefab in Jaywick.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

One minute it’s grizzling about ‘genocide’ of terrorists and the need for aid, then the next it’s grizzling about terrorists potentially being relocated from their now uninhabitable shithole.

You far left retards are never happy.


 

Im not far left... im just not stupid enough to think Trump is doing this for anyone other than himself! 

Relocation is a solution Ive already said that. But rather than imposing it on them, dont you think maybe having a region wide disussion with some real diplomats might help. Ive nothing against the principle it the way hes positioned it as a land grab and development into a condos.

Hmmm here's an anology for you how about if someone came a long to you and said you live in a shithole Im going to move you to a shiny new place that isnt your home whether you like it or not and that shiny new home is the London Stadium!

Financially speaking that’s a terrible analogy. If someone offered to buy my current home and offered me a brand new one just down the road for minimal cost, and offered to pay the upkeep for me……….. I’d snap their arm off.

Jeez that wasnt my analogy was it... it was the move from The Boleyn to The London Stadium nice shiny and new but Upton Park was our shithole and our home!

[goose]

One minute it’s grizzling about ‘genocide’ of terrorists and the need for aid, then the next it’s grizzling about terrorists potentially being relocated from their now uninhabitable shithole.

You far left retards are never happy.

 

Im not far left... im just not stupid enough to think Trump is doing this for anyone other than himself! 

Relocation is a solution Ive already said that. But rather than imposing it on them, dont you think maybe having a region wide disussion with some real diplomats might help. Ive nothing against the principle it the way hes positioned it as a land grab and development into a condos.

Hmmm here's an anology for you how about if someone came a long to you and said you live in a shithole Im going to move you to a shiny new place that isnt your home whether you like it or not and that shiny new home is the London Stadium!

Financially speaking that’s a terrible analogy. If someone offered to buy my current home and offered me a brand new one just down the road for minimal cost, and offered to pay the upkeep for me……….. I’d snap their arm off.

[Nutsin]

Trump really has completely lost his marbles.
Everyone loves his ethnic cleansing plan my arse!
It is embarrassing.

When you say ethnic cleansing are you talking about Hamas attacking Israel Zeb?

Billy,

you have TDS, being stuck on stupid is not an option.

I think You’re secretly shitting yourself because you’re worried it just might work.

Bit like how the Dem party are shitting themselves right now because DOGE are auditing all the wasteful Biden regime spending on foreign aid while people in North Carolina and Los Angeles are being told sorry, no money for you.

Funny it’s the very same people that hired over 80,000 more IRS agents to audit the tax payer. 

Don’t be surprised to learn that your boy Biden and his cronies were ne k deep on back handlers and corruption at the expense of the tax payer.

Certainly explains how they are all going ballistic right now.

[zebthecat]

Trump really has completely lost his marbles.
Everyone loves his ethnic cleansing plan my arse!
It is embarrassing.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

 

Billy throwing out insults again, don’t you realize how pathetic that makes you look Billy?

With Trumps new executive order that is gonna hurt the Iranians economically you can expect Hamas to receive less funding.

Bringing in all the others in the region and getting them on board will change the perspective of those in the region.

The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery.

There will of course be those that will be against it no matter what is offered, to be expected.

What is obvious is having Hamas in charge of Gaza isn’t an option.

Those whipped up by Trumps bullying and posturing are hysterical redneck dorks, if the cap fits wear it with pride!

Not sure you have any moral high ground when it comes to hurling insults around, your Moyesiah meltdowns are legendary and you cսnt everybody off!

"The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery." 

You seriously beleive Trump or Isreal are doing it for the Palestinians prosperity  you fucking retard!

 

No Billy, I believe it’s a way forward that helps the Palestinians right now, it helps bring in other Arab nations to be part of the solution and it will help the entire region to climb out of poverty and misery. Of Course it helps the Jews too and it also helps the U S recover some of the costs for rebuilding. 

Nothing retarded about it. What’s retarded is to constantly pick a fight with a much stronger enemy who has the capability of ruining everything around you and bombing you back to the Stone Age.

Now that’s fucking retarded.

Wow... utterly futile talking to you about anything you are Suckig Trumps Dick as we speak!

What it'll do is line Trumps pockets if it works (which it wont) or create a distastrous and futile war or both!

Seriously you cannot think this will work!

[BillyJenningsBoots]

One minute it’s grizzling about ‘genocide’ of terrorists and the need for aid, then the next it’s grizzling about terrorists potentially being relocated from their now uninhabitable shithole.

You far left retards are never happy.
 

Im not far left... im just not stupid enough to think Trump is doing this for anyone other than himself! 

Relocation is a solution Ive already said that. But rather than imposing it on them, dont you think maybe having a region wide disussion with some real diplomats might help. Ive nothing against the principle it the way hes positioned it as a land grab and development into a condos.

Hmmm here's an anology for you how about if someone came a long to you and said you live in a shithole Im going to move you to a shiny new place that isnt your home whether you like it or not and that shiny new home is the London Stadium!

[Nutsin]

 

Typical Trumpism everything is black and white you either support the idea or you want to destroy Isreal!

Nutsack and here is the nub thats not how proper level headed politicians work. Like I say if theyd sold the idea as a solution to the Palestinians problem and hey another radical idea for you, actually discussed it with the Palestinians and the surrounding nations first, then maybe people wouldnt see it as another of Trumps mad Imperialist ideas. Use some fucking sense and some diplomacy and sit down with all parties dont make it look like a land grab with Netanyahu's smugly smiling next to you! How do you think that would land?

Oh and to get Hamas out of Gaza you are going to have to allow Isreali/US troops to clear it. You think Iran and the terror groups will let them ride on through! Its a disaster waiting to happen.

But you just keep chanting USA USA USA USA! Fucking redneck dork!

Oh and my view is this wont happen, but maybe hes just sabre rattling like the tariffs, in the hope someone else comes up with a better solution.

 

Billy throwing out insults again, don’t you realize how pathetic that makes you look Billy?

With Trumps new executive order that is gonna hurt the Iranians economically you can expect Hamas to receive less funding.

Bringing in all the others in the region and getting them on board will change the perspective of those in the region.

The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery.

There will of course be those that will be against it no matter what is offered, to be expected.

What is obvious is having Hamas in charge of Gaza isn’t an option.

Those whipped up by Trumps bullying and posturing are hysterical redneck dorks, if the cap fits wear it with pride!

Not sure you have any moral high ground when it comes to hurling insults around, your Moyesiah meltdowns are legendary and you cսnt everybody off!

"The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery." 

You seriously beleive Trump or Isreal are doing it for the Palestinians prosperity  you fucking retard!

 

 

No Billy, I believe it’s a way forward that helps the Palestinians right now, it helps bring in other Arab nations to be part of the solution and it will help the entire region to climb out of poverty and misery. Of Course it helps the Jews too and it also helps the U S recover some of the costs for rebuilding. 

Nothing retarded about it. What’s retarded is to constantly pick a fight with a much stronger enemy who has the capability of ruining everything around you and bombing you back to the Stone Age.

Now that’s fucking retarded.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

One minute it’s grizzling about ‘genocide’ of terrorists and the need for aid, then the next it’s grizzling about terrorists potentially being relocated from their now uninhabitable shithole.

You far left retards are never happy.





 

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Letting them remain there as is-is obviously not an option.

Investment to rebuild is gonna be practically impossible as nobody in their right mind would spend Billions rebuilding while Hamas are still there.

So the countries surrounding the area are gonna have to deal with migration of Palestinians looking for help.

So there is that as an option.

OR

You could try to do something positive where all those surrounding countries are included in relocating the desperate Palestinians to a safe area where they get to live comfortably in peace and then have a conglomerate of surrounding countries get together to build a demolition site into an area for all to enjoy, that creates jobs and prosperity for the region.
We will also have the help of these surrounding countries out all the Hamas militants that shelter in Egypt, Jordan etc:

When people have something to lose they tend to value it. 
It won’t be easy but doing nothing is the worse of all options and doing the same thing that’s been happening for years obviously doesn’t work.

At least this brings in the other surrounding countries to help influence the Gazans to see sense and gives the Palestinians their Palestinian state that they’ve always wanted.

But allowing them to live like rats in the rubble is not an option.

Personally I don’t think they “ The Palestinians” have much of a choice.

The Saudis and Qataris will need to be heavily involved

The Abraham accords will come back in to focus again, you can expect more countries to jump on board to build prosperity in the region. 

Any tax revenue could be used in part to help provide social programmes for the New Palestinian state.

One things for certain there will always be some cսnt throwing water on any idea that doesn’t include the destruction of Israel.







 

 

Typical Trumpism everything is black and white you either support the idea or you want to destroy Isreal!

Nutsack and here is the nub thats not how proper level headed politicians work. Like I say if theyd sold the idea as a solution to the Palestinians problem and hey another radical idea for you, actually discussed it with the Palestinians and the surrounding nations first, then maybe people wouldnt see it as another of Trumps mad Imperialist ideas. Use some fucking sense and some diplomacy and sit down with all parties dont make it look like a land grab with Netanyahu's smugly smiling next to you! How do you think that would land?

Oh and to get Hamas out of Gaza you are going to have to allow Isreali/US troops to clear it. You think Iran and the terror groups will let them ride on through! Its a disaster waiting to happen.

But you just keep chanting USA USA USA USA! Fucking redneck dork!

Oh and my view is this wont happen, but maybe hes just sabre rattling like the tariffs, in the hope someone else comes up with a better solution.

 

Billy throwing out insults again, don’t you realize how pathetic that makes you look Billy?

With Trumps new executive order that is gonna hurt the Iranians economically you can expect Hamas to receive less funding.

Bringing in all the others in the region and getting them on board will change the perspective of those in the region.

The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery.

There will of course be those that will be against it no matter what is offered, to be expected.

What is obvious is having Hamas in charge of Gaza isn’t an option.

Those whipped up by Trumps bullying and posturing are hysterical redneck dorks, if the cap fits wear it with pride!

Not sure you have any moral high ground when it comes to hurling insults around, your Moyesiah meltdowns are legendary and you cսnt everybody off!

"The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery." 

You seriously beleive Trump or Isreal are doing it for the Palestinians prosperity  you fucking retard!

[Cabbige Savage]

if Hamas riverera let me play euro tekno lowd on beach then bench crew will be there

[Nutsin]

Letting them remain there as is-is obviously not an option.

Investment to rebuild is gonna be practically impossible as nobody in their right mind would spend Billions rebuilding while Hamas are still there.

So the countries surrounding the area are gonna have to deal with migration of Palestinians looking for help.

So there is that as an option.

OR

You could try to do something positive where all those surrounding countries are included in relocating the desperate Palestinians to a safe area where they get to live comfortably in peace and then have a conglomerate of surrounding countries get together to build a demolition site into an area for all to enjoy, that creates jobs and prosperity for the region.
We will also have the help of these surrounding countries out all the Hamas militants that shelter in Egypt, Jordan etc:

When people have something to lose they tend to value it. 
It won’t be easy but doing nothing is the worse of all options and doing the same thing that’s been happening for years obviously doesn’t work.

At least this brings in the other surrounding countries to help influence the Gazans to see sense and gives the Palestinians their Palestinian state that they’ve always wanted.

But allowing them to live like rats in the rubble is not an option.

Personally I don’t think they “ The Palestinians” have much of a choice.

The Saudis and Qataris will need to be heavily involved

The Abraham accords will come back in to focus again, you can expect more countries to jump on board to build prosperity in the region. 

Any tax revenue could be used in part to help provide social programmes for the New Palestinian state.

One things for certain there will always be some cսnt throwing water on any idea that doesn’t include the destruction of Israel.




 

 

Typical Trumpism everything is black and white you either support the idea or you want to destroy Isreal!

Nutsack and here is the nub thats not how proper level headed politicians work. Like I say if theyd sold the idea as a solution to the Palestinians problem and hey another radical idea for you, actually discussed it with the Palestinians and the surrounding nations first, then maybe people wouldnt see it as another of Trumps mad Imperialist ideas. Use some fucking sense and some diplomacy and sit down with all parties dont make it look like a land grab with Netanyahu's smugly smiling next to you! How do you think that would land?

Oh and to get Hamas out of Gaza you are going to have to allow Isreali/US troops to clear it. You think Iran and the terror groups will let them ride on through! Its a disaster waiting to happen.

But you just keep chanting USA USA USA USA! Fucking redneck dork!

Oh and my view is this wont happen, but maybe hes just sabre rattling like the tariffs, in the hope someone else comes up with a better solution.

 

 

Billy throwing out insults again, don’t you realize how pathetic that makes you look Billy?

With Trumps new executive order that is gonna hurt the Iranians economically you can expect Hamas to receive less funding.

Bringing in all the others in the region and getting them on board will change the perspective of those in the region.

The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery.

There will of course be those that will be against it no matter what is offered, to be expected.

What is obvious is having Hamas in charge of Gaza isn’t an option.

[goose]

The ones who handed back the sausages (hostages) didn’t look starving to me, they also had lovely new trucks which looked almost completely untouched.