The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nutsin]

J D Vance is setting the cat amongst the pigeons with his criticism of the Euro Zone and UK policies on immigration and the attack of freedom of speach.

They have a point of course. It’ll be interesting to see how much pressure, if any they apply for change.

Change could be on the horizon.
 

[Pub Bigot]

They can’t even string a coherent sentence together. Their lack of intelligence and ideological beliefs make them dangerous, and we can thank the wonderful Tories and Labour for allowing large numbers of these people to move in on mass and destabilise society with their dogma and victim mentality, aided and abetted by said parties. 

[Takashi Miike]

[THUNDERCLINT]

So, Gaza...just a pure thought experiment, how long realistically to make it habitable?

UN numbers estimate 160,000 residential building destroyed, 275,000 severely or partially damaged. 90% of the house stock as best I can tell. Home to 1,800,000 million?

I'd guess all supporting infrastructure is fucked and given the amount of terrorist tunnelling much groundwork will be needed to fix that.  

So, the whole place is essentially gone at this point. We still had some areas of London undeveloped after the blitz visible in the 80's.

Rebuilding the place even to the shithole it was, 2 generations at  least. No population can survive in those conditions for 50 years, they'll be dead of cholera, typhoid etc long before.

There's no need to forcibly remove anyone, 6 months time when reality hits home anyone with any sense will leave.

If you're Gazan the best case scenario is the US deems all residents equal stakeholders of the land and then negotiates a buy out so they can resettle elsewhere with enough capital to put a roof over their heads and support any family.
 

[Manuel]

IF the apple story is true I suspect they will tell Starmer to fuck off and pull out of the UK. I seem to remember a similar thing happening with whatsapp a few years ago,

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Claims of Labour ditching their online safety act over Trumps tariffs. Hopefully the Chagos deal gets scuppered next and Starmer gets a full labour revolt for being such a pointless fanny.

[goose]

If you read Trump's statements in full he makes no mention of them going back, just living in peace in neighbouring countries, while the US will occupy it and turn it into the "Riviera of the Middle East" I suspect perhaps you might have read someone in his staff or one of his less unhinged supporters attempt to walk Trumps statements back do a degree of something not so mental sounding!

I'm sure on his head it sounded good, but he must be barking if he thinks they're willingly going to leave now.

His main political stance is consistently America first and no foreign aid, so why would his plan be to spend billions doing it up, then hand it back to the Palestinians?

they're not doing it for free are they?
there will be lucrative contracts for US businesses in the rebuilding, and then US businesses when the place becomes a functioning destination for people to live/visit.

free or not is a moot point now, he's confirmed in his most recent interview that the Palestinians will not have a right to return, and the US will own it outright

I’ve not seen that. Be good if you could share it.
I’d assume the US would want ownership of some land, either as US property or belonging to US business. Then the land gets sold or rented. If the original occupants are getting a brand new house for free I don’t see the problem. If it’s different to that then I see the issue.

[Mr Anon]

The way I understand it is that they’re not being deported, but offered an alternative until it’s rebuilt and then they go back.

If you read Trump's statements in full he makes no mention of them going back, just living in peace in neighbouring countries, while the US will occupy it and turn it into the "Riviera of the Middle East" I suspect perhaps you might have read someone in his staff or one of his less unhinged supporters attempt to walk Trumps statements back do a degree of something not so mental sounding!

I'm sure on his head it sounded good, but he must be barking if he thinks they're willingly going to leave now.

His main political stance is consistently America first and no foreign aid, so why would his plan be to spend billions doing it up, then hand it back to the Palestinians?

they're not doing it for free are they?
there will be lucrative contracts for US businesses in the rebuilding, and then US businesses when the place becomes a functioning destination for people to live/visit.

free or not is a moot point now, he's confirmed in his most recent interview that the Palestinians will not have a right to return, and the US will own it outright

[Hammer I am]

No they can't, that's the problem if there was a valid threat, if there was a legitimate threat and the courts deemed it important to access, currently no one could help anyway 

 

[Far Cough UKunt]

Apples Ordered by the UK Government to let it access users' encrypted dataWho does the UK government think it is to demand from a brand like Apple to that allow access to users's encrypted data in the UK and abroad? There's every chance that Apple will tell the UK government to swing, and rightly so. Worst case, Apple doesn't comply and stops selling its products in the UK. 

This is government overreach, probably under the guise of some sort harebrained way of tracking terrorists or enemies of the state in their case, while being able to snoop at anyone's data. 

Kier Starmer is an absolute rotten cսnt, and heads a rotten party. They can fuck off, and anyone of the opinion 'well if you've got nothing to hide.' 

 

 

Apparently, Apple can't see users encrypted data anyway?

[Hammer I am]

Its not quite as you made it sound though, they would still need a court order to access an individual's data, they wouldnt be given access to freely look at any and all person's data, so absolutely no different than it is now with pretty much everything else

They just asking for ADP to be at a level where its possible to decrypt if it was court approved, currently that wouldnt be possible.

US government has also asked for this a few years back.

not that I agree with the above but just giving context, and what with the likes of PRISM, a much bigger overeach in breaching people's privacy then surely every party is as rotten another, they're all the same 

[Pub Bigot]

Apples Ordered by the UK Government to let it access users' encrypted dataWho does the UK government think it is to demand from a brand like Apple to that allow access to users's encrypted data in the UK and abroad? There's every chance that Apple will tell the UK government to swing, and rightly so. Worst case, Apple doesn't comply and stops selling its products in the UK. 

This is government overreach, probably under the guise of some sort harebrained way of tracking terrorists or enemies of the state in their case, while being able to snoop at anyone's data. 

Kier Starmer is an absolute rotten cսnt, and heads a rotten party. They can fuck off, and anyone of the opinion 'well if you've got nothing to hide.' 

[goose]

Think you're not understanding Nutsin, not very unusual for you.

The ethic cleansing part is not the israel attacks to dislodge HAMAS, it's Trump's suggestion to deport the population of Gaza and turn it into a holiday resort. I mean thats a perfect literal example of of ethnic cleansing.

You'd have to be some kind of moron to think otherwise so crack on Nutsin

The way I understand it is that they’re not being deported, but offered an alternative until it’s rebuilt and then they go back.

If you read Trump's statements in full he makes no mention of them going back, just living in peace in neighbouring countries, while the US will occupy it and turn it into the "Riviera of the Middle East" I suspect perhaps you might have read someone in his staff or one of his less unhinged supporters attempt to walk Trumps statements back do a degree of something not so mental sounding!

I'm sure on his head it sounded good, but he must be barking if he thinks they're willingly going to leave now.

His main political stance is consistently America first and no foreign aid, so why would his plan be to spend billions doing it up, then hand it back to the Palestinians?

they're not doing it for free are they?
there will be lucrative contracts for US businesses in the rebuilding, and then US businesses when the place becomes a functioning destination for people to live/visit.

[Mr Anon]

So taking out Hamas a terrorist group is ethnic cleansing is it? Ffs! At least we have someone in power willing to do something. 

It’s better than sitting back and watching as your kids are fucking ruined and your coffers are pillaged and your territory given away while your tax payers are taxed to death while you are not allowed to say anything about any of it for fear of being thrown in jail.
sounds To me it is the Brits and the Christian’s getting ethnic cleansed in the Uk.

I know who I’d rather have as a leader and it ain’t your fucking treasonous cսnt of a leader.

Think you're not understanding Nutsin, not very unusual for you.

The ethic cleansing part is not the israel attacks to dislodge HAMAS, it's Trump's suggestion to deport the population of Gaza and turn it into a holiday resort. I mean thats a perfect literal example of of ethnic cleansing.

You'd have to be some kind of moron to think otherwise so crack on Nutsin

The way I understand it is that they’re not being deported, but offered an alternative until it’s rebuilt and then they go back.

If you read Trump's statements in full he makes no mention of them going back, just living in peace in neighbouring countries, while the US will occupy it and turn it into the "Riviera of the Middle East" I suspect perhaps you might have read someone in his staff or one of his less unhinged supporters attempt to walk Trumps statements back do a degree of something not so mental sounding!

I'm sure on his head it sounded good, but he must be barking if he thinks they're willingly going to leave now.

His main political stance is consistently America first and no foreign aid, so why would his plan be to spend billions doing it up, then hand it back to the Palestinians?

[goose]

Perhaps because a leader of the most powerful nation on the planet floating war crimes as feasible is a solution to anything is dangerous.
Ethic cleansing is never the answer.

So taking out Hamas a terrorist group is ethnic cleansing is it? Ffs! At least we have someone in power willing to do something. 

It’s better than sitting back and watching as your kids are fucking ruined and your coffers are pillaged and your territory given away while your tax payers are taxed to death while you are not allowed to say anything about any of it for fear of being thrown in jail.
sounds To me it is the Brits and the Christian’s getting ethnic cleansed in the Uk.

I know who I’d rather have as a leader and it ain’t your fucking treasonous cսnt of a leader.

Think you're not understanding Nutsin, not very unusual for you.

The ethic cleansing part is not the israel attacks to dislodge HAMAS, it's Trump's suggestion to deport the population of Gaza and turn it into a holiday resort. I mean thats a perfect literal example of of ethnic cleansing.

You'd have to be some kind of moron to think otherwise so crack on Nutsin

The way I understand it is that they’re not being deported, but offered an alternative until it’s rebuilt and then they go back.

[Mr Anon]

I’m reading that you lot might have to pay reparations to the Carribean countries for slavery.Is that right?

Where is all the money gonna come from? They gonna sell the Crown Jewels?

What’s the plan, the kids are getting groomed and raped and now you are being pillaged. 

How much more can or will people tolerate? At what point do people stand up and do something?

lol no it's not true, they may ask for it and you'll always get the usual suspects supporting their claim but the government are never going to entertain it.
in regards to you other ranting nonsense,I'd worry more about things closer to home if I were you, starting with kids murdering other kids with automatic weapons on a weekly basis

[Hammer I am]

Why are some people losing their minds over Trumps 'proposal' for Gaza, it will never happen, it's a classic bit of Trump nonsense. You really have to price this in with him, it's what he does. He is getting the real stuff done,ie what he promised and that is the only thing that really matters.

Perhaps because a leader of the most powerful nation on the planet floating war crimes as feasible is a solution to anything is dangerous.
Ethic cleansing is never the answer.

So taking out Hamas a terrorist group is ethnic cleansing is it? Ffs! At least we have someone in power willing to do something. 

It’s better than sitting back and watching as your kids are fucking ruined and your coffers are pillaged and your territory given away while your tax payers are taxed to death while you are not allowed to say anything about any of it for fear of being thrown in jail.
sounds To me it is the Brits and the Christian’s getting ethnic cleansed in the Uk.

I know who I’d rather have as a leader and it ain’t your fucking treasonous cսnt of a leader.

Think you're not understanding Nutsin, not very unusual for you.

The ethic cleansing part is not the israel attacks to dislodge HAMAS, it's Trump's suggestion to deport the population of Gaza and turn it into a holiday resort. I mean thats a perfect literal example of of ethnic cleansing.

You'd have to be some kind of moron to think otherwise so crack on Nutsin

[Nutsin]

Why are some people losing their minds over Trumps 'proposal' for Gaza, it will never happen, it's a classic bit of Trump nonsense. You really have to price this in with him, it's what he does. He is getting the real stuff done,ie what he promised and that is the only thing that really matters.

Perhaps because a leader of the most powerful nation on the planet floating war crimes as feasible is a solution to anything is dangerous.
Ethic cleansing is never the answer.

So taking out Hamas a terrorist group is ethnic cleansing is it? Ffs! At least we have someone in power willing to do something. 

It’s better than sitting back and watching as your kids are fucking ruined and your coffers are pillaged and your territory given away while your tax payers are taxed to death while you are not allowed to say anything about any of it for fear of being thrown in jail.
sounds To me it is the Brits and the Christian’s getting ethnic cleansed in the Uk.

I know who I’d rather have as a leader and it ain’t your fucking treasonous cսnt of a leader.

[zebthecat]

Why are some people losing their minds over Trumps 'proposal' for Gaza, it will never happen, it's a classic bit of Trump nonsense. You really have to price this in with him, it's what he does. He is getting the real stuff done,ie what he promised and that is the only thing that really matters.

Perhaps because a leader of the most powerful nation on the planet floating war crimes as feasible is a solution to anything is dangerous.
Ethic cleansing is never the answer.

[Nutsin]

I’m reading that you lot might have to pay reparations to the Carribean countries for slavery.Is that right?

Where is all the money gonna come from? They gonna sell the Crown Jewels?

What’s the plan, the kids are getting groomed and raped and now you are being pillaged. 

How much more can or will people tolerate? At what point do people stand up and do something?

[THUNDERCLINT]

Why are some people losing their minds over Trumps 'proposal' for Gaza, it will never happen, it's a classic bit of Trump nonsense. You really have to price this in with him, it's what he does. He is getting the real stuff done,ie what he promised and that is the only thing that really matters.

Make All Gaza American.

[only1billybonds]

Why are some people losing their minds over Trumps 'proposal' for Gaza, it will never happen, it's a classic bit of Trump nonsense. You really have to price this in with him, it's what he does. He is getting the real stuff done,ie what he promised and that is the only thing that really matters.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Who else do we know that gets rinsed by the entire membership of the site and yet can't stop digging.

My firend and jennings has never posted at same time

FACKS 

Yeah I must be the only poster that cunts on here have a go at! Im so upset boo hoo! big fucking deal.... but its nice to see that you come on the Politics thread and pursue the big issue here an anology you fuckwits dont agree with and not the original point that Trumps idea is ridiculous and insulting to the Middle East. Carry on having a pop you planks I could not care less... I love the arguements why else would anyone post on here but lets at least try to keep it in topic!

Oh and Ive no idea who My firend is but it aint me! Keep guessing!

[only1billybonds]

Mistakenly posted this  on the woke thread, my apologies.


Anyone taken much notice if this USAID scandal in the States? Fuck me, this has to be the world's biggest money laundering gig, some absolutely astounding amounts if money that was supposed to be spent on ridiculous schemes but seems to have made certain individuals very very rich.

More importantly, Trump has signed an executive order that says plastic straws must return to replace the useless paper ones.

[Cabbige Savage]

Who else do we know that gets rinsed by the entire membership of the site and yet can't stop digging.

My firend and jennings has never posted at same time

FACKS