The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[goose]

What an absolute circus that was with Trump & Zelenskyy. An embarrassment for everyone involved.

[Nutsin]

Zelensky has been sent packing whilst begging to stay and sort it out. It’s pretty clear there will be no peace deal with him involved now. I don’t see how Zelensky is going to find security and financial support without the US. He is a dead man walking. 




 

Hopefully It’s Steimar next.  This administration ain’t fucking around. They just put the world on notice! The USA wants peace!

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Zelensky has been sent packing whilst begging to stay and sort it out. It’s pretty clear there will be no peace deal with him involved now. I don’t see how Zelensky is going to find security and financial support without the US. He is a dead man walking. 



 

[Nutsin]

The long and short of it is Zelensky is an idiot! His days are numbered.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

That was hard to watch. Trump and Vance were embarrassingly candid, but have only reiterated their position they have continually stated.

Zelensky gobbing off as if he could shame them on TV about it all, whilst dictating what happens was insane. 

Sadly the US instigated all this and built Zelensky up, now if the US walk away it’s all on Europe. Which leaves them either putting in troops at the risk of WW3 or they continue to fund the death of an entire nation over the coming years.


 

[Fauxstralian]

Disappointing 
Was hoping Zelensky was going to call Trump an orange cսnt live on tv

[Alfs]

Trump and Vance are playground bullies.  This shouldn't have been televised.

[Nutsin]

Fireworks with the Trump and Zelensky meeting. All televised!

[Lee Trundle]

Violated.

All perfectly normal if a drunken brawlbhas taken place according to someone on the woke thread.

Only it wasn't a brawl, the mp continued to batter a bloke who wouldnt/ couldnt defend himself.

Assuming the MP is of previous good character with no convictions, etc, then five years ago I would have said OK, suspended sentence and community service, alcohol rehabilitation thingy, sounds reasonable. But since then we've seen someone go to prison for shouting at a police dog and others imprisoned for twitter posts. Just doesn't seem right.

I'm not religious in the slightest, but don't forget you can now also be arrested for praying silently in this country.

[Nutsin]

I see Starmer blatantly sat there and lied to the world about freedom of speech in the UK.

Does he think that we all live under a rock ffs.

Meanwhile kids continue to be under attack and the good people are thrown in Jail for trying to expose the culprits and save the children from further harm.

what an absolute intolerable weasel this cսnt is.
Since when do you put your kids n harms way and then protect the very people attacking them?

The man is pure evil. How does anyone who is not a kiddy fiddler still support this cսnt! 

 

[zebthecat]

Violated.

All perfectly normal if a drunken brawlbhas taken place according to someone on the woke thread.

Only it wasn't a brawl, the mp continued to batter a bloke who wouldnt/ couldnt defend himself.

Assuming the MP is of previous good character with no convictions, etc, then five years ago I would have said OK, suspended sentence and community service, alcohol rehabilitation thingy, sounds reasonable. But since then we've seen someone go to prison for shouting at a police dog and others imprisoned for twitter posts. Just doesn't seem right.

You can add walking slowly and having a zoom meeting about a potential protest to the list.

[Nurse Ratched]

Violated.

All perfectly normal if a drunken brawlbhas taken place according to someone on the woke thread.

Only it wasn't a brawl, the mp continued to batter a bloke who wouldnt/ couldnt defend himself.

Assuming the MP is of previous good character with no convictions, etc, then five years ago I would have said OK, suspended sentence and community service, alcohol rehabilitation thingy, sounds reasonable. But since then we've seen someone go to prison for shouting at a police dog and others imprisoned for twitter posts. Just doesn't seem right.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

Actually the sentence is suspended pending appeal.
Lose that appeal, which he will given that video, and off to prison he goes.
It won't stop his election recall either as he has still been convicted.

 

 

Is that right mate?
Thought it was Amesbury that had appealed the sentence, and the beak agreed and commuted it to the original 10 weeks, suspended for 2 years.
cսnt keeps his nose clean for a couple of years, charge becomes null and void.
Will probably be kicked off the MP's gravy train though.

 

 

[zebthecat]

i see Keir has pulled some strings and got Amesbury off the hook and out of going to prison
 

Actually the sentence is suspended pending appeal.
Lose that appeal, which he will given that video, and off to prison he goes.
It won't stop his election recall either as he has still been convicted.

[only1billybonds]

Violated.

All perfectly normal if a drunken brawlbhas taken place according to someone on the woke thread.

Only it wasn't a brawl, the mp continued to batter a bloke who wouldnt/ couldnt defend himself.

[violator]

i see Keir has pulled some strings and got Amesbury off the hook and out of going to prison

[goose]

One for Billy boy and northbank Frank:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62zzxeeveeo

over 100,000 people claimed asylum last year. Close on 300,000 people in a 3 year period.

[Nutsin]

Tomorrow we get to see the Epstein list according to Bondi the Attorney General. 

Trump is considering a golden card pathway to US citizenship, you have to buy it for a cool $5 million per card but it will give you a green card and a right to citizenship if you behave it will bring in some much needed money. Every 250,000 people sign up will generate a trillion dollars for the treasury. 

DOGE digging up all sorts of waste in Gov’t spending and of course corruption. Shit on some dirty Dems beginning to surface.

Trumps New tax bill is progressing well. No tax on social security, tips or overtime.

All this winning, it’s too much! 

MAGA!

More promises made being kept. 
 

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

I see H&P is, as usual, resorting to faux injured feelings and long-winded deflection. The fact that indigenous parents have children has no bearing on calculating the true cost/benefit of a migrant.
 
Can't the mods ban his obvious alt username as well?

[goose]

'However those migrant low skilled workers tend to be the ones that are orderlies, nurses, nursing assistans and porters in our hospitals'

Agreed but isn't this a circular argument?  The only reason we need more of the jobs listed is because we have over 10M people in this country who weren't born here, plus their dependants.  Had we had a sensible immigration policy over the last 20 years then we wouldn't need to import even more low paid workers to care for the people who have arrived in that time.

 

 

Simple conclusions for simple people.

People aged 65 and over account for over 40% of hospital admissions. They occupy around two-thirds of hospital inpatient beds.

2021 census shows just over 11.1 million people (18.6% of the UK population) are over 65.  Of those, 10.4 million (17.4%) are white. 

Hence the orderlies, nurses, nursing assistants and porters in our hospitals are primarily looking after our ageing white population, not the immigrants over the past 20 years that people on this site despise.

Definitely some ‘simple’ thinking Frank son.

[Cabbige Savage]

UK get the bess fird world doctors

[WHU(Exeter)]

Franks nailed it on the head here.

Britain like other western countries, is faced with the problem of an increasingly aging population percentage wise and all that extra pressure it puts on an already failing health service.

Those selfish bastards. They could've at least chipped in a bit, I don't know, paid in monthly, could call it something like National insurance contributions, or maybe something else a bit more catchy?

Obviously though, the answer to solve all this is to have practically zero control of our borders, thus adding to erm, the problem.

It's obvious when you think about it.

*Raises glass to Frank*

[only1billybonds]

Why is the colour of people being brought up? Thought the conversation was about migrants, regardless of what they look like or where the're from?

[northbankfrank]

'However those migrant low skilled workers tend to be the ones that are orderlies, nurses, nursing assistans and porters in our hospitals'

Agreed but isn't this a circular argument?  The only reason we need more of the jobs listed is because we have over 10M people in this country who weren't born here, plus their dependants.  Had we had a sensible immigration policy over the last 20 years then we wouldn't need to import even more low paid workers to care for the people who have arrived in that time.

 

 

 

 

Simple conclusions for simple people.

People aged 65 and over account for over 40% of hospital admissions. They occupy around two-thirds of hospital inpatient beds.

2021 census shows just over 11.1 million people (18.6% of the UK population) are over 65.  Of those, 10.4 million (17.4%) are white. 

Hence the orderlies, nurses, nursing assistants and porters in our hospitals are primarily looking after our ageing white population, not the immigrants over the past 20 years that people on this site despise.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Yep there you go....!!!