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"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
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SB, I've been doing a lot of auto mock drafts. A player that gets put with you in the first round, over and over again is TE Tyler Warren
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southbankbornnbred
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RBshorty wrote: ↑07 Mar 2025, 18:52 Keep your grubby Green Mitts off Winston. South!. He look better in dark Blue. As for the QB's in the draft. Ward is going first overall. But the cat is out the bag with regards to Sanders. Quite a few of the GM's all are of the belief Sanders ain't what he is cracked up to be. And isn't worth a top 20 pick. Let alone a top 5. Someone will as always over reach and take a punt. I don't think it will be the Big Blue.? (Too close to Jones for that.) The Dart scenario has been talked about by a few fanbases across the league. (That fifth year option on QB's is a doozy.) This time next week. Everybody will have a clearer view on QB landscape come Draft time. Either way. It's all good fun.
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Interesting, RB: I definitely think Winston could start for either New York side while we’re rebuilding.
If I were Glenn, I’d want Winston in free agency. Sure, he’ll lose some games due to too many interceptions - that’s been his Achilles heel at several sides and it probably won’t change much. So I get why his value is low right now.
But he’s a gunslinger, and he’ll also throw several 300+ yard games in a season. He could still start at rebuilding sides with lower expectations for the next couple of seasons. He also generally stays healthy. Nine seasons in the league already, and just one bad injury.
Get him in, draft a longer-term prospect and take your time…
If I were Glenn, I’d want Winston in free agency. Sure, he’ll lose some games due to too many interceptions - that’s been his Achilles heel at several sides and it probably won’t change much. So I get why his value is low right now.
But he’s a gunslinger, and he’ll also throw several 300+ yard games in a season. He could still start at rebuilding sides with lower expectations for the next couple of seasons. He also generally stays healthy. Nine seasons in the league already, and just one bad injury.
Get him in, draft a longer-term prospect and take your time…
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RBshorty wrote: ↑07 Mar 2025, 18:52 Keep your grubby Green Mitts off Winston. South!. He look better in dark Blue. As for the QB's in the draft. Ward is going first overall. But the cat is out the bag with regards to Sanders. Quite a few of the GM's all are of the belief Sanders ain't what he is cracked up to be. And isn't worth a top 20 pick. Let alone a top 5. Someone will as always over reach and take a punt. I don't think it will be the Big Blue.? (Too close to Jones for that.) The Dart scenario has been talked about by a few fanbases across the league. (That fifth year option on QB's is a doozy.) This time next week. Everybody will have a clearer view on QB landscape come Draft time. Either way. It's all good fun.
GO G MEN.
Sanders has talent. He also has a gigantic ego.
GMs and HCs have to take a step back and rationally analyse what he’s all about. Focus on the mechanics, technique and in-game decision-making under pressure.
The rest is mostly noise (although you need to ensure he won’t ruin the dressing room).
I don’t know if he’s going to be top-class. He might well be - and he “might” not be an overreach. Sometimes the ego is worth it, if you can manage it. But the important thing is to be sure he has top-end NFL talent.
If decision-makers think he’s over-valued, then one thing is certain: Dart and Milroe will shoot up the board. Because there are so many sides that need a QB.
In these circumstances, the Jets need to ensure they don’t overspend. They’ve done that before, with Mark Sanchez, Bryce Petty and Kellen Clemons etc.
GMs and HCs have to take a step back and rationally analyse what he’s all about. Focus on the mechanics, technique and in-game decision-making under pressure.
The rest is mostly noise (although you need to ensure he won’t ruin the dressing room).
I don’t know if he’s going to be top-class. He might well be - and he “might” not be an overreach. Sometimes the ego is worth it, if you can manage it. But the important thing is to be sure he has top-end NFL talent.
If decision-makers think he’s over-valued, then one thing is certain: Dart and Milroe will shoot up the board. Because there are so many sides that need a QB.
In these circumstances, the Jets need to ensure they don’t overspend. They’ve done that before, with Mark Sanchez, Bryce Petty and Kellen Clemons etc.
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zebthecat wrote: ↑08 Mar 2025, 10:42This is a weird one.
All they have left Sam Howell who is, obviously, never going to be a starter even temporarily and the possible free agents all look to be pretty risky.
They must be be planning to trade away other players for higher draft picks but there are only 2 obvious QB candidates there.
Maybe they could get Sam Darnold or Justin FIelds on the cheap for a season and hope something turns after that but it does like a complete tear down as it stands.
Could definitely see the Hawks go for Darnold. And he’d do well there. He’s not a top-5 QB. But he has talent. The Jets should have stuck with him, but they have always been terrible at developing QBs. We let him down.
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his NC team were fun to watch, just a shame the defence wasn't great. if he'd gone to the draft at the end of this season I'm sure he would have been a fire round pick. the funny thing about the game below is Sam Hartman, who later played for Notre Dame is now one of our back ups in Washington
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.....he was also a good scrambler, but again, the cսnt Bienemy had total disregard to his strengths or what he was comfortable with
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Joe, I watched a couple of seasons of Sam at NC. He thrived in a run heavy system where he had Javonte Williams (more of a workhorse back) and Michael Carter (more a speed, third down back). That scheme opened up space for him to make shots down the field to his receivers. Clearly Rivera, and Bienemy didn't watch any of his college games and that last season in Washington, we barely run the ball and he was throwing ridiculous amounts of time behind a terrible o-line. Those two pretty much fucked him financially with the way they schemed the offense. With an OC that is happy to work off a consistent run game, Sam can start at pro level
*and what's amazing is he's still younger (24) than multiple QB prospects going in to next month's draft*
*and what's amazing is he's still younger (24) than multiple QB prospects going in to next month's draft*
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zebthecat wrote: ↑08 Mar 2025, 10:42This is a weird one.
All they have left Sam Howell who is, obviously, never going to be a starter even temporarily and the possible free agents all look to be pretty risky.
They must be be planning to trade away other players for higher draft picks but there are only 2 obvious QB candidates there.
Maybe they could get Sam Darnold or Justin FIelds on the cheap for a season and hope something turns after that but it does like a complete tear down as it stands.
Howell is an odd one. We specifically targeted getting him, Macdonald wanted him based on the Seahawks/Commanders game from the season prior (which OTB and I were at funnily enough), but then chose Geno as our starting QB again
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This is a weird one.
All they have left Sam Howell who is, obviously, never going to be a starter even temporarily and the possible free agents all look to be pretty risky.
They must be be planning to trade away other players for higher draft picks but there are only 2 obvious QB candidates there.
Maybe they could get Sam Darnold or Justin FIelds on the cheap for a season and hope something turns after that but it does like a complete tear down as it stands.
All they have left Sam Howell who is, obviously, never going to be a starter even temporarily and the possible free agents all look to be pretty risky.
They must be be planning to trade away other players for higher draft picks but there are only 2 obvious QB candidates there.
Maybe they could get Sam Darnold or Justin FIelds on the cheap for a season and hope something turns after that but it does like a complete tear down as it stands.
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Keep your grubby Green Mitts off Winston. South!. He look better in dark Blue. As for the QB's in the draft. Ward is going first overall. But the cat is out the bag with regards to Sanders. Quite a few of the GM's all are of the belief Sanders ain't what he is cracked up to be. And isn't worth a top 20 pick. Let alone a top 5. Someone will as always over reach and take a punt. I don't think it will be the Big Blue.? (Too close to Jones for that.) The Dart scenario has been talked about by a few fanbases across the league. (That fifth year option on QB's is a doozy.) This time next week. Everybody will have a clearer view on QB landscape come Draft time. Either way. It's all good fun.
GO G MEN.
GO G MEN.
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Some early smart money on the Jets coming up the board (using mid-round picks) and taking Jaxson Dart as a late first-rounder on top of holding the #7 pick.
Not sure if this is how Glenn will see it - or whether Dart will still be available late in Rnd 1 after having a good combine. But it seems that the Jets spent good time with Dart and Milroe, both expected to be QB picks outside the top 20 in the draft (most experts have them as 2nd rounders). So, rightly, I think we're unlikely to trade up from #7 to try to land Ward or Sanders.
I think the Jets starting QB position is up for grabs next season. There's still talk of a move for Jameis Winston, Justin Fields - and even some confidence (internally) that Tyrod Taylor could do a half-decent job while he's still there. Any of those options would give us time to develop somebody like Dart or Milroe.
The tug of war for the #7 pick seems to be between the new OC, who wants a right tackle and there is an excellent prospect there in Armand Membou, and the new HC who has got his eyes on a few excellent defensive prospects. Looks like we won't be picking a QB with #7. Rightly.
I'd take Winston as a free agent, Membou or somebody like Mason Graham (if he's still available) with the #7 pick and then try to land Dart by trading up. It might fail, but what the fuck: everything else we do fails!
Not sure if this is how Glenn will see it - or whether Dart will still be available late in Rnd 1 after having a good combine. But it seems that the Jets spent good time with Dart and Milroe, both expected to be QB picks outside the top 20 in the draft (most experts have them as 2nd rounders). So, rightly, I think we're unlikely to trade up from #7 to try to land Ward or Sanders.
I think the Jets starting QB position is up for grabs next season. There's still talk of a move for Jameis Winston, Justin Fields - and even some confidence (internally) that Tyrod Taylor could do a half-decent job while he's still there. Any of those options would give us time to develop somebody like Dart or Milroe.
The tug of war for the #7 pick seems to be between the new OC, who wants a right tackle and there is an excellent prospect there in Armand Membou, and the new HC who has got his eyes on a few excellent defensive prospects. Looks like we won't be picking a QB with #7. Rightly.
I'd take Winston as a free agent, Membou or somebody like Mason Graham (if he's still available) with the #7 pick and then try to land Dart by trading up. It might fail, but what the fuck: everything else we do fails!
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cleveland could also try and move, but I think because garrett is determined to leave, the thoughts are they'll take carter at two as his replacement
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Can’t see it being a kings ransom Miike. Our first. Maybe next year’s 2nd. And a 5th.? As shit as we been. We haven’t picked first overall since the mid sixties.! Ward may not be a stud. But he is solid. And after Jones. I’m taking solid.
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shorty, hearing rumours from pretty clued up insiders that you'll be moving up to pick one and doing a deal with the titans. no clue of the cost, but you clearly want ward
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"He has overseen 25 seasons. In that time, we have had just 8 winning years (four of which were 9-7 seasons, so just one game in it), and 17 losing efforts"
That's two more winning seasons (six) than we had under Snyder
The thing that's underestimated is the professional players country wide talk and let each other know how good or bad their franchise is run, apparently we're up there now with the most desirable destination in the league. Someone like Bobby Wagner wouldn't have touched us with a barge pole before the new regime took over. What amazes me in regard to NFL franchises is, if you've ever watched a tour of a college football facility, many have far better conditions than their pro counterparts despite an ever increasing influx of money in to the sport. It's worth having a look at some of those videos on YouTube at some of these colleges
That's two more winning seasons (six) than we had under Snyder
The thing that's underestimated is the professional players country wide talk and let each other know how good or bad their franchise is run, apparently we're up there now with the most desirable destination in the league. Someone like Bobby Wagner wouldn't have touched us with a barge pole before the new regime took over. What amazes me in regard to NFL franchises is, if you've ever watched a tour of a college football facility, many have far better conditions than their pro counterparts despite an ever increasing influx of money in to the sport. It's worth having a look at some of those videos on YouTube at some of these colleges
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Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑28 Feb 2025, 07:56southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 22:50Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 18:24 franchise report cards.......
https://nflpa.com/report-cards/2025No surprise at all to see Woody as the least popular owner!Imagine being hated that much by your players. If you want similar clown world decisions, look no further than Jacksonville and their hiring of a bloke as GM that looks like he hasn't started shaving yet. Him & the oddball Coen
Woody is head and shoulders above all others as the worst owner, though: every day, day in-day out, since taking over in 2000. Twenty-five years of clueless carnage. Your old guy, Snyder, was a benchmark. Now he's gone, this fool is setting the anti-standard.
He has overseen 25 seasons. In that time, we have had just 8 winning years (four of which were 9-7 seasons, so just one game in it), and 17 losing efforts. His overall record as owner is 173 wins and 231 defeats. He has overseen the longest active play-off drought (14 seasons) - and the team has had a losing record for the past 9 years. We've had just 1 winning season since 2010!
Genuinely, I think if the Jets had chosen to do the exact opposite of what Woody thinks about most things, we'd have been in the play-offs regularly. He has the reverse Midas touch. He's not going to sell any time soon because we make too much money. But don't let him anywhere near the team - ever. Let Glenn, a good appointment, and Mougey get on with it now.
He has overseen 25 seasons. In that time, we have had just 8 winning years (four of which were 9-7 seasons, so just one game in it), and 17 losing efforts. His overall record as owner is 173 wins and 231 defeats. He has overseen the longest active play-off drought (14 seasons) - and the team has had a losing record for the past 9 years. We've had just 1 winning season since 2010!
Genuinely, I think if the Jets had chosen to do the exact opposite of what Woody thinks about most things, we'd have been in the play-offs regularly. He has the reverse Midas touch. He's not going to sell any time soon because we make too much money. But don't let him anywhere near the team - ever. Let Glenn, a good appointment, and Mougey get on with it now.
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southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 22:50Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 18:24 franchise report cards.......
https://nflpa.com/report-cards/2025No surprise at all to see Woody as the least popular owner!
Imagine being hated that much by your players. If you want similar clown world decisions, look no further than Jacksonville and their hiring of a bloke as GM that looks like he hasn't started shaving yet. Him & the oddball Coen 



