The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Hammer I am]

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-official ... le-2039626

Talking of a surrender, he's going to secure the original deal and claim he won isn't he, either that or he's purposely tanked his own economy to make a few quid and will just do it over and over

[Hammer I am]

The desperation shown by some of yor this war to continue is nothing short of fucking sickening!

everyone and their dog wants peace, its just some of you want a surrender, followed by another attack by Putin again in a few months once he's had a breather

[only1billybonds]

The desperation shown by some of yor this war to continue is nothing short of fucking sickening!

[Hammer I am]

There's no reading between any lines, there's just you pathetically scrambling around, trying to get back some self respect, on a football messageboard.

Dust yourself off, accept the needless killing is about to end, and focus on learning your pronouns.

What are you waffling on about, if anything this goes against what you Trump cheerleaders have been saying, that Zelensky doesn't want peace, I don't think you know what you're saying at this point.

Meanwhile the ever peaceful trump is now doubling down on annexing Greenland

He didn't want peace, now he's obviously been told behind closed doors what to do, after he embarrassed himself the other day.

It's pretty simple to understand what is going on, and no amount of you trying to create your own narrative will change what everyone can see has happened. You're having a good go though, far play.

But IOC said several times Zelensky wanted the deal otherwise he wouldn't have been there, and he has a Ukrainian nephew so he should know

[Eerie Decent]

Kind of cute you can't read between the lines on that one.

There's no reading between any lines, there's just you pathetically scrambling around, trying to get back some self respect, on a football messageboard.

Dust yourself off, accept the needless killing is about to end, and focus on learning your pronouns.

What are you waffling on about, if anything this goes against what you Trump cheerleaders have been saying, that Zelensky doesn't want peace, I don't think you know what you're saying at this point.

Meanwhile the ever peaceful trump is now doubling down on annexing Greenland

He didn't want peace, now he's obviously been told behind closed doors what to do, after he embarrassed himself the other day.

It's pretty simple to understand what is going on, and no amount of you trying to create your own narrative will change what everyone can see has happened. You're having a good go though, far play.

[Hammer I am]

 

He's obviously ignored the advice from the warmongers on WHO.

Kind of cute you can't read between the lines on that one.

There's no reading between any lines, there's just you pathetically scrambling around, trying to get back some self respect, on a football messageboard.

Dust yourself off, accept the needless killing is about to end, and focus on learning your pronouns.

What are you waffling on about, if anything this goes against what you Trump cheerleaders have been saying, that Zelensky doesn't want peace, I don't think you know what you're saying at this point.

Meanwhile the ever peaceful trump is now doubling down on annexing Greenland

[Sydney_Iron]

Fucking hell, just seen that cluster fuck of a President say  he will get Greenland one way or another!

So say they have a referendum/Vote on becoming part of the USA and reject the idea, does the orange man invade or occupy anyway?

Blokes a fucking loon, he maybe right on getting rid of WOKE and SOME of the DOGE stuff but everything else is unhinged to say the least.

4 years of this nonsense

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Labour MP calls for talks on 'CONSCRIPTION' for 'unengaged' young people


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... nding.html

​​​ I wouldnt  join up now .
No fucking  chance..

If your white and working class ...don't do it.

You will be used.. abused.. shat on and ultimately  left to your own devices .

WHY WOULD WHITE WORKING LADS JOIN UP NOW?..
FOR WHAT ?

NO NO NO .

AT LEAST WE HAD SOMETHING BACK THEN...NOWS THERES NISH


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[Monsieur merde de cheval]

Nothing we didn’t know already. Zelensky simply reiterating what he has said before.

Let’s see how Russia respond. More aggression. More bombs. 

taking a look at US stock markets Trump has more pressing priorities. 

Oh yea... he's really in the shit

[Cabbige Savage]

How come UK get all the bess Sub Saharion engineers?!
Polski only get ethnik European?!
They only do velocity experiment in workshop. 
UK Sub Saharion do it in shop. 
UK so lucky 

[Eerie Decent]

Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
•.•
I would like to reiterate Ukraine's commitment to peace.

None of us wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team and I stand ready to work under President Trump's strong leadership to get a peace that lasts.

We are ready to work fast to end the war, and the first stages could be the release of prisoners and truce in the sky — ban on missiles, long- ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure — and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same. Then we want to move very fast through all next stages and to work with the US to agree a strong final deal.

We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this.

Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and
communication to be constructive.

 

He's obviously ignored the advice from the warmongers on WHO.

Kind of cute you can't read between the lines on that one.

There's no reading between any lines, there's just you pathetically scrambling around, trying to get back some self respect, on a football messageboard.

Dust yourself off, accept the needless killing is about to end, and focus on learning your pronouns.

[ironsofcanada]

I must say, IOC and Nutsin would make a great Ren & Stimpy tribute act

Zelensky just told you what I have been telling you for a couple days.

Do you see my soul now?  

Edit: To be fair I have never seen Ren & Stimpy, what does a tribute act for a cartoon entail?

[Hammer I am]

Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський
@ZelenskyyUa
•.•
I would like to reiterate Ukraine's commitment to peace.

None of us wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team and I stand ready to work under President Trump's strong leadership to get a peace that lasts.

We are ready to work fast to end the war, and the first stages could be the release of prisoners and truce in the sky — ban on missiles, long- ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure — and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same. Then we want to move very fast through all next stages and to work with the US to agree a strong final deal.

We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this.

Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and
communication to be constructive.

 

He's obviously ignored the advice from the warmongers on WHO.

Kind of cute you can't read between the lines on that one.

[Hammer I am]

I must say, IOC and Nutsin would make a great Ren & Stimpy tribute act

[Hammer I am]

What’s up Tranny, cat got your tongue?

Or are you too embarrassed to admit you are stuck on stupid? 

I have provided evidence from Steele the author and the head of Hillary’s campaign clearly stating the Dossier was inaccurate and it was originated and released by Hillary Clinton yet you still won’t admit it was a hoax!

Like I said stuck on stupid!

Just like I’ve been saying all along, You’re a retard!

IOC has been running rings around you for 2 days straight, you might wanna come up with a different username now, cos Hammer I am needs to be trashed along with Capitol man. 

hahaha, you silly tart, I asked you first, Mr Whatabout. I'm still waiting for the proof you say you have in the form of your democrat assassination plot, once you provide that i'll be happy to move on to Russia collusion, or the moon landings, or whatever it is on your aluminium clad cranium right now

[ironsofcanada]

Whilst I did not closely follow Trump’s words about Ukraine before he took office I must admit that his bullying of Zelenskyy into an unconditional surrender has taken me by surprise.

I get the impression that he has taken the Russians by surprise too by exceeding their expectations.

But what about that appeasement comparison comma?

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Whilst I did not closely follow Trump’s words about Ukraine before he took office I must admit that his bullying of Zelenskyy into an unconditional surrender has taken me by surprise.

I get the impression that he has taken the Russians by surprise too by exceeding their expectations.

[WHU(Exeter)]

"do want to discuss that at length because I have a very vest interested"?

Are you Tynan in disguise?

[ironsofcanada]

Don't be disingenuous, he's not a miracle worker, but he'll sort it, sadly for you.

Imagine if that soppy bird and her 94 year old deranged adopted grandad were still in charge.

Tulsi Gabbard impressed me when she ran against Biden for the Democratic nomination. It would have been a tough choice (not that I have ever been able to vote in the States)  assuming she could have tamped down the general Democrat ridiculousness on other issues.


But my point, in foreign relations, I agree about Harris.  What a literal international disaster  it would have been to have her giggling and word-salading with Zelensky or much worse Putin.

Or Biden...

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Let’s not go by posters on a football forum. Let’s go by what Trump has said himself. This was meant to be over on 21st January. 

 

 

Find the quote where he said he’d have it done on Inauguration Day then.

Funny how the people that have been critical against a peace deal, think they have legitimate criticism of Trump for not doing it fast enough.

[ironsofcanada]

Let’s see how Russia respond.

 

 

You first statement is incorrect.

I have never  see Zelensky say: "We see this agreement as a step toward greater security and solid security guarantees." before. 
In fact, he has said before that the mineral deal lacked "concrete steps on security guarantees," 

"Let’s see how Russia respond."

This is true, ridiculously basically so, and has always been so. Any which way you go for peace, Russia needs to "respond" in some positive way or there is no peace.  (I guess unless you battle to Moscow, change the government and force them.)

The likelihood of them continuing "More aggression. More bombs." goes down dramatically with the increase of US interests in the area.  Essentially like Zelensky is saying.


The stock markets are about a trade war, do want to discuss that at length because I have a very vest interested?

[Eerie Decent]

Don't be disingenuous, he's not a miracle worker, but he'll sort it, sadly for you.

Imagine if that soppy bird and her 94 year old deranged adopted grandad were still in charge.

[dealcanvey]

Let’s not go by posters on a football forum. Let’s go by what Trump has said himself. This was meant to be over on 21st January. 

[Eerie Decent]

It's what some posters on here have been saying was going to happen, essentially. Trump will sort it out eventually.

Unfortunately you war mongers aren't going to get your way, and the needless killing will stop. You'll have to get your death fix elsewhere.

[dealcanvey]

Worth remembering what Putin said when he was interviewed around the time of the US inauguration;

(sic) "They will all moan and groan but soon come to heel and be wagging their tails at Trump's feet".  He was spot on, as you will see.

Pretty much sums up half the posters on here.