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What will the result be?

Potter powers on...Home Win
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59%
Barcodes bore us...Draw
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29%
Howe with the hammer blow....Away Win
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I dont want to create a scene, but this has been the longest time without a match since forever, and i cant keep reading about politics, millwall, drivel for the rest of the weekend.

Nailed on win for our massive bastards.

Feel free to delete when someone who knows what they're doing comes along.
Irons.
Since you made the first move let's keep this one.

I'll update with all the usual match thread content in the next day or so.

Stubbo

 

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Re: West Ham v Newcastle - 10th March (Official Match & Predictions Thread)

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I think it's interesting at some level.

JWP has come back, gone straight in and been a permanent fixture. That for me is a position to upgrade as whilst he's safety first and helps control possession it would be nice to see someone in that position with a bit more ability to spot a forward pass. Soler?

Alvarez has obviously also started to look better and valuable again, and he's seeing a lot of the ball as well as going and pressing aggressively.  But again, he's not great on the ball when in possession and even in the current setup, we could maybe do with someone who offers more in possession (without losing that out of possession aggression)....Paqueta?

Soucek is clearly there for all the work he does 'unseen', his leadership skills, and his effectiveness in both boxes. But he's obviously very limited on the ball, and slow as they come so always somewhat behind the play in open play...but that physical presence would be sorely missed wouldn't it? But maybe a physical striker maintains the box presence without losing all that much in open play?

I'd like to see Potter go back to attempting to play 3-4-3.

With Fullkrug back to fitness, and Ferguson fit (all be it not firing) we have two strikers with physical presence to lead the line.

Bowen and Kudus both seem to relish playing more centrally together, and no reason to think the couldn't drop in behind a physical striker, both with the pace to run beyond.

But it all hinges on the central midfield pivot.  Perming two from JWP, Soucek, Alvarez, Paqueta, and Soler.

That's the conundrum.  "On paper" if like to see Paqueta and Soler there. But it feels like that gives up all the leadership quality and determination that JWP, Soucek and Alvarez bring....but any two of those three on their own leave us deficient either in presence, ball skills, or progression...and of course 'legs'.

So the conundrum goes on. We saw in the first game his preferred approach is 3-4-3....Summerville at wing back on the right, Fullkrug through the middle.  Hard to argue that AWB has played the wing back role almost to perfection so Summerville hasn't been missed 

So for me, I can't decide what I want to see. I don't like the midfield blend of the 3 stooges, and whilst I like each of them individually, they all have flaws to big to be hidden by a single midfield partner. But we've seen Paqueta give the ball away relentlessly when deep. And Soler be anonymous.

So with all that said, my line up would be:
Areola

Todibo. Kilman. Cresswell
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Wan Bissaka Alvarez JWP Scarles

Bowen Paqueta

Fullkrug
Fullkrug is simply a better striker than Ferguson, so if fit must play. Paqueta is needed but can't be trusted deep, and he creates more chances than Kudus. Bowen has to play of course.

So Soucek misses out....with Fullkrug offering the physical presence at the top end, and Paqueta physical enough to drop in and make the extra midfielder, along side JWP who doesn't surrender possession and Alvarez to maintain the bite and aggression.

The backline stays the same. Todibo for whatever reason can't last beyond 65 mins, though is clearly first choice. Cresswell whilst limited offers options at corners and a steady influence for Scarles. 

That's what I'd do, at least when at home, to redress the lack of potency in possession.
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Re: West Ham v Newcastle - 10th March (Official Match & Predictions Thread)

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It wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference to us defensively if we played a striker instead of Soucek. He offered absolutely fuck all between both boxes, as per usual.

Potter has had enough time to work with the squad, to get them organised enough, that we can play with more than 2 fucking attackers in the starting 11.
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Re: West Ham v Newcastle - 10th March (Official Match & Predictions Thread)

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Since being overrun by Brentford first half Potter has stuck with 3 in midfield. That was also the end of the back 4 iirc?  Hence a 3 x CB set up and 2 backs making it 5 out of possession.  All to stop the bleeding. Triage so as to speak. 

This set up has worked pretty well for us in away games under Potter where we have, in the main, been very competitive and performed well as a team using a Moyes-esque style low block and counter set up. Teams at home tend to take the game to us ( on the front foot ) and it suits this tactic.  

The trade off is that we no longer sling so many forward, sitting and pressing high as we did under Lopetegui. This does have the benefit of us no longer leaving ourselves wide open in midfield with our 2 defensive midfielders and the defenders unable to cover or track back fast enough. But, on the other hand, we look pretty toothless in our home games. 

Potter would have to take the risk of exposing us to fast counters again in the home games imo if we want to go on the proverbial front foot and get AWB, Scarles, Alvarez, Soucek etc bombing further forward to support the front players. Our lack of pace in that middle third really makes it a huge risk of conceding a lot of goals again on the counter attack whoever we pick and definitely if we only have 2 in that area. 

Until we potentially ( hopefully ) solve the squad deficiencies in summer, Potter can either take the risk of shipping 3, 4 goals in some games like Lopetegui or stick with his safety first approach? 

 
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Re: West Ham v Newcastle - 10th March (Official Match & Predictions Thread)

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"that's what Lopetegui was doing"

No he wasn't, not in the slightest.

I know who's to blame overall, but we can't get rid of him. And once again, which yourself and some others can't seem to get their heads around, we are not expecting swashbuckling football for fuck sake. Please get that in your head and stop repeating it, because it's not true.

However, we do have enough players in that squad not to have to play with just 2 attacking in the starting 11, at home, under the lights, against Newcastle, to give it a right go. Regardless of Sullivan, or anything else, that from Potter is unacceptable. We have a Brazilian international who cost £50mil and a Spanish international who got signed for mega dough by PSG, sitting on the bench, whilst Soucek is lumbering about ffs. Or start Ferguson up top, give the young Brazilian lad a go, anything to get the fans onside and actually give it a go, there was fuck all to lose last night by going for it. What there was to lose by picking that side, was the fans, and he certainly did that.

I don't want to get on the manager's back early, I'm desperate for him to do well. But he came in with all the talk about what he's going to do regarding the style of football, and it's fucking turgid. We're rock bottom for shots on goal since he came in, and the 3 teams just above us are... yeah, you don't need me to tell you.

The owner is shit, but the manager does have the tools to do better than he is.
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I agree Potter has sorted out the defense and we are not as pathetic as we were, however I don’t buy that playing solid defense has to come at the price of playing attacking football. You can do both.

Also not sure why Areola gets so much criticism, every game he pulls off some great saves that keep us in the game. 

Potter needs a chance but let’s stay consistent in our critique shall we. 

The rest of this season is a golden opportunity to mix things up a bit and take a look at some of the kids.
And For us to have a real go in every game. 2 attempts at goal on average is pathetic and needs to be addressed asap. No excuses, Get it sorted.
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Eerie Decent" wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 19:06
stubbo-admin wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 16:14 I think we're suffering from a dose of the Man Utds post-Fergie at the moment.

A fan base who was sold a pup on the promise of glory, suddenly get a taste, and expect that's now the norm. 

People need to remember this decline was already in full swing the last TWO seasons under Moyes in the league and a Euro Conf League win that papered over those cracks by beating some two-bob shit shouldn't hide that fact.

Our team is good enough to compete in Europe, but not good enough to get into Europe via the league.  Our manager doesn't have a magic wand, despite his surname.  Lopetegui may have been a blinking fool, but he also has been successful elsewhere previously so is not the worst manager on the planet either.  And he couldn't make this canary sing.   

Potter is trying to right baout 30 months worth of decline, not 6 months.  That starts with stopping us conceding goals.  But the fanbase is seemingly determined to demand an instant state of the Harlem Globetrotters reincarnate.  "ENTERTAIN ME" they cry!

Instant fixes and 'Razzle Dazzle' is not what this Club needs.  We need to stop conceding a fuck tonne of goals, rebuild our midfield, and work out a way with that rebuilt midfield to provide a service line to score goals.

And whilst doing it we need to grind out some results.  He's doing things the right way.  Just the natives are restless....if only they could put all the focus on the long running failings of the gnome in charge, rather than the latest patsy dancing to his tune, then maybe we'd get somewhere.  Potter is just doing the job in front of him.  At this point that is fire fighting.  He's shown he's intelligent, coherent, and can get the job started.

But some of our fans need to put on their big boy pants and buckle up for a rough ride for a while to come yet.
A lot of words, but far too simplistic.

It's not about HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS entertainment, no one is expecting that. But do yourself a favour, seeing as you are heading this website up, get yourself a ticket for the Bournemouth game next month. The walk from the station, the queue to be searched, the shit beer, miles from the pitch, surrounded by fucking tourists, and watch us not lay a glove on fucking Bournemouth, get our arses handed to us, be bored to fucking tears in the process, then come on here and have the same opinion.

All we want, when we are playing at home, is to see a team with more than 2 attackers in it, try to have more than 2 shots on target as we've averaged since he came in, and at least give it a fucking go. I'm telling you, go over there, it's fucking dying on it's arse over there, and the absolute DIRGE being served up is not going to save it.

We were playing Newcastle at home, they have Dan Burn at centre back for fuck sake, it's not prime Real Madrid. Regardless of what he has inherited (a squad worth about half a billion quid, btw) we as fans deserve better than that bollocks. And the fans that go are more than within their rights to call out that poxy starting line up, and that feeble performance where we barely put a tackle in against a team with an upcoming cup final on their mind.
 
 
I totally get that perspective. But that's what Lopetegui was doing and pretty much everyone wanted rid of him because of his cavalier approach that saw us getting our asses handed to us game after game.

So Potter comes in with a remit to play better more coherent football, is doing that, but is now not cavalier enough.

And I still get it. But it's not really Potter's fault...he's just a guy who's been instructed to improve results and get us back towards the top half next season. Step 1...stop shipping goals. And he's done that pretty much. But he needs time...and that might not even be enough....he's afterall struggled to score goals at all his clubs to date.

In the pre game, no one was suggesting a team with Soler or Ferguson of Guilherme or Ings in it. Half didn't even want Paqueta selected.

I'll be honest I've no desire to go over there. I dont like the ground, the experience, etc. Love the Club, dislike the regime and all they've done. It's an experience that only works there if you are playing swashbuckling cavalier football and winning at the same time...and we're not good enough for that.

But my overall point. We have the manager we do because of the guy in charge. If he doesn't mesh with what the fans want it's because the guy in charge doesn't understand the fanbase. The same as the guy before this guy. And the guy before that. And the guy before that. And the guy before that.

The problem is Sullivan. Full Stop. And until the fan base turns on him en masse...anything else is basically futile. But we're all distracted with managers, bauble signings, transfer rumours, popcorn on match day, etc. 

He may have saved the Club financially, but he's killed its soul. Soulless bowl, for a soulless leader who doesn't have any love or empathy for the Club.

So I'll back Potter...with Sullivan in charge we won't get better. He's English, intelligent, and might with time make it better than it is now. But he's working with his hands tied behind his back. And it won't be pretty early on.
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Correct Percy. 2 maybe all 3 should be bench players eventually or at least we should never start more than 1 in the same midfield.  Fix this area well ( never assumed with our transfer record ) get pace, athleticism, stamina and physicality and you can almost guarantee a huge upturn in performance and results.  Its not the only issue, we need a fit, quality central striker ( could that be Fullkrug ? Only if could stay fit ) and a new goalkeeper who is comfortable using his feet. But that central midfield s the priority.

If it is not addressed in summer with 2 players with the aforementioned profile, I will seriously start having doubts about our latest manager. Howver, at this juncture, its simply too early to reach conclusions and there have been some positives unlike Lopetegui. 
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Alvarez,Ward Prowse and Soucek are not premier division class we haven't got an earthly with this midfield trio no pace and no unexpected through balls.
Stick with this midfield and we're going nowhere 
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stubbo-admin wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 16:14 I think we're suffering from a dose of the Man Utds post-Fergie at the moment.

A fan base who was sold a pup on the promise of glory, suddenly get a taste, and expect that's now the norm. 

People need to remember this decline was already in full swing the last TWO seasons under Moyes in the league and a Euro Conf League win that papered over those cracks by beating some two-bob shit shouldn't hide that fact.

Our team is good enough to compete in Europe, but not good enough to get into Europe via the league.  Our manager doesn't have a magic wand, despite his surname.  Lopetegui may have been a blinking fool, but he also has been successful elsewhere previously so is not the worst manager on the planet either.  And he couldn't make this canary sing.   

Potter is trying to right baout 30 months worth of decline, not 6 months.  That starts with stopping us conceding goals.  But the fanbase is seemingly determined to demand an instant state of the Harlem Globetrotters reincarnate.  "ENTERTAIN ME" they cry!

Instant fixes and 'Razzle Dazzle' is not what this Club needs.  We need to stop conceding a fuck tonne of goals, rebuild our midfield, and work out a way with that rebuilt midfield to provide a service line to score goals.

And whilst doing it we need to grind out some results.  He's doing things the right way.  Just the natives are restless....if only they could put all the focus on the long running failings of the gnome in charge, rather than the latest patsy dancing to his tune, then maybe we'd get somewhere.  Potter is just doing the job in front of him.  At this point that is fire fighting.  He's shown he's intelligent, coherent, and can get the job started.

But some of our fans need to put on their big boy pants and buckle up for a rough ride for a while to come yet.
A lot of words, but far too simplistic.

It's not about HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS entertainment, no one is expecting that. But do yourself a favour, seeing as you are heading this website up, get yourself a ticket for the Bournemouth game next month. The walk from the station, the queue to be searched, the shit beer, miles from the pitch, surrounded by fucking tourists, and watch us not lay a glove on fucking Bournemouth, get our arses handed to us, be bored to fucking tears in the process, then come on here and have the same opinion.

All we want, when we are playing at home, is to see a team with more than 2 attackers in it, try to have more than 2 shots on target as we've averaged since he came in, and at least give it a fucking go. I'm telling you, go over there, it's fucking dying on it's arse over there, and the absolute DIRGE being served up is not going to save it.

We were playing Newcastle at home, they have Dan Burn at centre back for fuck sake, it's not prime Real Madrid. Regardless of what he has inherited (a squad worth about half a billion quid, btw) we as fans deserve better than that bollocks. And the fans that go are more than within their rights to call out that poxy starting line up, and that feeble performance where we barely put a tackle in against a team with an upcoming cup final on their mind.
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 Would like to see Ferguson & Guilherme start a game , ideally Everton
But who do you drop to bring them in?
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​​​Hes persisting with this defensive midfield, as we've only got one premier quality CB can't play more than 69 mins, fans fave mavropanos, 36 year old cresswell and kilman the introvert.
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Maverick180180 » 11 Mar 2025 17:09
Because Moyes chased him for several windows and we didn't need a DM nearly as much as we needed other positions and would have bought him had Sullivan not been so cheap. He also wasn't injured and couldn't get into cup games for City, so his form was pretty well known.It was only on Moyes' insistence that he came in.

With Ferguson, we had zero fit strikers none of who had more then 2 goals even when fit, and that was the only shit loan option we could manage, and at least he had shown some promise. Despite all of that, Ferguson isn't actively losing games for us the way Kalvin Phillips did with red cards and gifting the opposition goals.

HTH
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Ferguson looked a very talented player before his injury problems  & thought he looked promising in his half v Brentford 
Given we aren’t going down or to Europe I’d like Potter to be a bit more adventurous given he has 10 more games to assess what he has.
Would like to see Ferguson & Guilherme start a game , ideally Everton
Its clear we need a striker & a bunch of midfielders & hopefully that work is going on NOW
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kylay wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 16:54
Maverick180180 wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 15:43
kylay wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 14:57 I really don't know what some of you expect which doesn't mean I thought we played well, but compared to the ABSOLUTE shit served up the first half of this season and obvious rancor in the dressing room, this isn't as awful as some are making it out to be.  I can forgive Potter for sticking with the team that got him back-to-back wins and clean sheets and wanting to build consistency. We all know that Bowen or Kudus up top doesn't work, but we do not have strikers who bring anything to the table which is not Potter's fault. He also cannot coach speed.  Newcastle are not in the carabao cup final for lack of being a very good side. They have a very good manager, competent owners that don't hamstring their DOF even if they are reprehensible, and a DOF with a coherent strategy. We might have a good manager and none of those other things.
You’ve just said we have strikers that don’t bring anything to the table, but that’s not Potters fault 

Potter brought in one of those sack of shit strikers, who’s fault is that if not his?
Sullivan's because we have three other strikers who actually cost something who amount to fuck all, and we knew before the window opened (and consequently before Potter was ever hired) that the only thing coming in was shit loans which is exactly what we got.
Sorry but if Moyes is a cսnt for bringing in Kalvin-Phillips then I don’t see how Potter gets a free pass 
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Maverick180180 wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 15:43
kylay wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 14:57 I really don't know what some of you expect which doesn't mean I thought we played well, but compared to the ABSOLUTE shit served up the first half of this season and obvious rancor in the dressing room, this isn't as awful as some are making it out to be.  I can forgive Potter for sticking with the team that got him back-to-back wins and clean sheets and wanting to build consistency. We all know that Bowen or Kudus up top doesn't work, but we do not have strikers who bring anything to the table which is not Potter's fault. He also cannot coach speed.  Newcastle are not in the carabao cup final for lack of being a very good side. They have a very good manager, competent owners that don't hamstring their DOF even if they are reprehensible, and a DOF with a coherent strategy. We might have a good manager and none of those other things.
You’ve just said we have strikers that don’t bring anything to the table, but that’s not Potters fault 

Potter brought in one of those sack of shit strikers, who’s fault is that if not his?
Sullivan's because we have three other strikers who actually cost something who amount to fuck all, and we knew before the window opened (and consequently before Potter was ever hired) that the only thing coming in was shit loans which is exactly what we got.
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Russ of the BML" wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 16:35
Maverick180180 wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 15:43
kylay wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 14:57 I really don't know what some of you expect which doesn't mean I thought we played well, but compared to the ABSOLUTE shit served up the first half of this season and obvious rancor in the dressing room, this isn't as awful as some are making it out to be.  I can forgive Potter for sticking with the team that got him back-to-back wins and clean sheets and wanting to build consistency. We all know that Bowen or Kudus up top doesn't work, but we do not have strikers who bring anything to the table which is not Potter's fault. He also cannot coach speed.  Newcastle are not in the carabao cup final for lack of being a very good side. They have a very good manager, competent owners that don't hamstring their DOF even if they are reprehensible, and a DOF with a coherent strategy. We might have a good manager and none of those other things.
You’ve just said we have strikers that don’t bring anything to the table, but that’s not Potters fault 

Potter brought in one of those sack of shit strikers, who’s fault is that if not his?
 
Ferguson was a gamble. We had fuck all money to spend and he was available. We needed reinforcements and Potter knew him from Brighton, so as it stood, it did seem a reasonable gamble. I mean, let's have it right, it wasn't like we had £50m to spend and Potter scouted Ferguson and spent that money on him. He was clearly a sticking plaster - Just seems now he is one of those plasters that doesn't stick very well and flaps about before it falls off. 
 
 
Agree - Moyes over Flake every day of the year!
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I reckon I'm in the minority where I think our squad is exactly where it should be.

Aerola
AWB
Todibo
Summerville
Kudus
Bowen
Scarles

are the only ones I'd try to hold on to for next season.
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Maverick180180 wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 15:43
kylay wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 14:57 I really don't know what some of you expect which doesn't mean I thought we played well, but compared to the ABSOLUTE shit served up the first half of this season and obvious rancor in the dressing room, this isn't as awful as some are making it out to be.  I can forgive Potter for sticking with the team that got him back-to-back wins and clean sheets and wanting to build consistency. We all know that Bowen or Kudus up top doesn't work, but we do not have strikers who bring anything to the table which is not Potter's fault. He also cannot coach speed.  Newcastle are not in the carabao cup final for lack of being a very good side. They have a very good manager, competent owners that don't hamstring their DOF even if they are reprehensible, and a DOF with a coherent strategy. We might have a good manager and none of those other things.
You’ve just said we have strikers that don’t bring anything to the table, but that’s not Potters fault 

Potter brought in one of those sack of shit strikers, who’s fault is that if not his?
 
 
Ferguson was a gamble. We had fuck all money to spend and he was available. We needed reinforcements and Potter knew him from Brighton, so as it stood, it did seem a reasonable gamble. I mean, let's have it right, it wasn't like we had £50m to spend and Potter scouted Ferguson and spent that money on him. He was clearly a sticking plaster - Just seems now he is one of those plasters that doesn't stick very well and flaps about before it falls off. 
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stubbo-admin wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 16:14 I think we're suffering from a dose of the Man Utds post-Fergie at the moment.

A fan base who was sold a pup on the promise of glory, suddenly get a taste, and expect that's now the norm. 

People need to remember this decline was already in full swing the last TWO seasons under Moyes in the league and a Euro Conf League win that papered over those cracks by beating some two-bob shit shouldn't hide that fact.

Our team is good enough to compete in Europe, but not good enough to get into Europe via the league.  Our manager doesn't have a magic wand, despite his surname.  Lopetegui may have been a blinking fool, but he also has been successful elsewhere previously so is not the worst manager on the planet either.  And he couldn't make this canary sing.   

Potter is trying to right baout 30 months worth of decline, not 6 months.  That starts with stopping us conceding goals.  But the fanbase is seemingly determined to demand an instant state of the Harlem Globetrotters reincarnate.  "ENTERTAIN ME" they cry!

Instant fixes and 'Razzle Dazzle' is not what this Club needs.  We need to stop conceding a fuck tonne of goals, rebuild our midfield, and work out a way with that rebuilt midfield to provide a service line to score goals.

And whilst doing it we need to grind out some results.  He's doing things the right way.  Just the natives are restless....if only they could put all the focus on the long running failings of the gnome in charge, rather than the latest patsy dancing to his tune, then maybe we'd get somewhere.  Potter is just doing the job in front of him.  At this point that is fire fighting.  He's shown he's intelligent, coherent, and can get the job started.

But some of our fans need to put on their big boy pants and buckle up for a rough ride for a while to come yet.
He's a boring cսnt.

His first half hour against Villa was fun and showed some promise. Sadly that's seems to be inspite of him because the longer he's had the more tedious and plodding we've become.

At least with Moyes there was always the chance we might break quickly and do something interesting, all nonce beard wants to do is inflate his possession stats.

He's the football equivalent of fucking your missus through a hole in a sheet.
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Manuel wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 15:40 When you pay 40 large for a CB you would expect him to have some ability on the ball and bring it forward and not just a stopper who passes the ball back, there must be a stack of them available for not that much, like Webster at Brighton.  If your CB's can't do that how do you start attacks? I mean apart from passing it back to the keeper for him to hoof it long?

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Who do you want them to pass too?   the midfield dont have the ability to get on the ball. Bowen and Kudus never run in behind.  It just pings backwards and sideways as they are easy passes constantly till it goes back to Areola. 

Its shit, but dont think the CB are the main causes of it 
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stubbo-admin wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 16:14 I think we're suffering from a dose of the Man Utds post-Fergie at the moment.

A fan base who was sold a pup on the promise of glory, suddenly get a taste, and expect that's now the norm. 

People need to remember this decline was already in full swing the last TWO seasons under Moyes in the league and a Euro Conf League win that papered over those cracks by beating some two-bob shit shouldn't hide that fact.

Our team is good enough to compete in Europe, but not good enough to get into Europe via the league.  Our manager doesn't have a magic wand, despite his surname.  Lopetegui may have been a blinking fool, but he also has been successful elsewhere previously so is not the worst manager on the planet either.  And he couldn't make this canary sing.   

Potter is trying to right baout 30 months worth of decline, not 6 months.  That starts with stopping us conceding goals.  But the fanbase is seemingly determined to demand an instant state of the Harlem Globetrotters reincarnate.  "ENTERTAIN ME" they cry!

Instant fixes and 'Razzle Dazzle' is not what this Club needs.  We need to stop conceding a fuck tonne of goals, rebuild our midfield, and work out a way with that rebuilt midfield to provide a service line to score goals.

And whilst doing it we need to grind out some results.  He's doing things the right way.  Just the natives are restless....if only they could put all the focus on the long running failings of the gnome in charge, rather than the latest patsy dancing to his tune, then maybe we'd get somewhere.  Potter is just doing the job in front of him.  At this point that is fire fighting.  He's shown he's intelligent, coherent, and can get the job started.

But some of our fans need to put on their big boy pants and buckle up for a rough ride for a while to come yet.
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I think we're suffering from a dose of the Man Utds post-Fergie at the moment.

A fan base who was sold a pup on the promise of glory, suddenly get a taste, and expect that's now the norm. 

People need to remember this decline was already in full swing the last TWO seasons under Moyes in the league and a Euro Conf League win that papered over those cracks by beating some two-bob shit shouldn't hide that fact.

Our team is good enough to compete in Europe, but not good enough to get into Europe via the league.  Our manager doesn't have a magic wand, despite his surname.  Lopetegui may have been a blinking fool, but he also has been successful elsewhere previously so is not the worst manager on the planet either.  And he couldn't make this canary sing.   

Potter is trying to right baout 30 months worth of decline, not 6 months.  That starts with stopping us conceding goals.  But the fanbase is seemingly determined to demand an instant state of the Harlem Globetrotters reincarnate.  "ENTERTAIN ME" they cry!

Instant fixes and 'Razzle Dazzle' is not what this Club needs.  We need to stop conceding a fuck tonne of goals, rebuild our midfield, and work out a way with that rebuilt midfield to provide a service line to score goals.

And whilst doing it we need to grind out some results.  He's doing things the right way.  Just the natives are restless....if only they could put all the focus on the long running failings of the gnome in charge, rather than the latest patsy dancing to his tune, then maybe we'd get somewhere.  Potter is just doing the job in front of him.  At this point that is fire fighting.  He's shown he's intelligent, coherent, and can get the job started.

But some of our fans need to put on their big boy pants and buckle up for a rough ride for a while to come yet.
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Potter has indeed taken a punt on Ferguson that at this stage looks to be a failure.  10 mire games to prove otherwise
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kylay wrote: 11 Mar 2025, 14:57 I really don't know what some of you expect which doesn't mean I thought we played well, but compared to the ABSOLUTE shit served up the first half of this season and obvious rancor in the dressing room, this isn't as awful as some are making it out to be.  I can forgive Potter for sticking with the team that got him back-to-back wins and clean sheets and wanting to build consistency. We all know that Bowen or Kudus up top doesn't work, but we do not have strikers who bring anything to the table which is not Potter's fault. He also cannot coach speed.  Newcastle are not in the carabao cup final for lack of being a very good side. They have a very good manager, competent owners that don't hamstring their DOF even if they are reprehensible, and a DOF with a coherent strategy. We might have a good manager and none of those other things.
You’ve just said we have strikers that don’t bring anything to the table, but that’s not Potters fault 

Potter brought in one of those sack of shit strikers, who’s fault is that if not his?
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When you pay 40 large for a CB you would expect him to have some ability on the ball and bring it forward and not just a stopper who passes the ball back, there must be a stack of them available for not that much, like Webster at Brighton.  If your CB's can't do that how do you start attacks? I mean apart from passing it back to the keeper for him to hoof it long?

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He certainly was, no mean feat to keep Isak quiet like he did. 
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