Wolves Vs West Ham | PL | 1.4.25 | Predictions & Match Thread

[stubbo-admin]

Will update all the match day stuff in the next 24 hours. Until then...what do you predict the team and score will be?

For me....2-1 to West Ham.

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Match Centre:

Odds:
West Ham: 5/2
Draw: 47/20
Wolves: 31/20

Pre-Match Press Conference:
Official Press Conference

Tactical Preview: 
Babbling Irons

Watch-along:
Hammers Chat

Streams:

SportHD 

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[Shropshire_Iron]

I went last night and fucking hell modern day football is dire. It's play not to lose, not play to win, playing out from the back is suicidal when you're west ham or wolves we inevitably kick it long anyway. Sideways and backwards all night, no wonder half the premier league teams can't find a striker, there's none being produced anymore because every midfielder is a fucking robot, run,stop,go back rinse and repeat.these players are completely average JWP is a robot huffs puffs plays an easy ball to the centre half or full back, gets it back plays to the next centre half. Thought he was this ball playing set piece magician? His corners don't beat the 1st man. It's not just West Ham it's the premier league in general, I've been a few times this season and it's bored the arse out of me from both teams Wolves are shit and so are we. It'll be rinse and repeat for years, the 3 that come up will go down and Liverpool or City will win the league and the cups, and everyone else will play this shit modern football that doesn't go anywhere, I'd love a maverick type of manager that shakes the whole thing up, but Potter deserves a window or 2 and see what he can do.    

[threesixty]

Maybe it’s me but we also don’t shoot from distance enough. That’s one way to get through packed defences. Especially as their goal was a deflected one. Are we under instructions not to try that more? 
 

[Rossal]

Not seen the game but by the sound of it there are only a couple of positives 
1. We only have to endure 8 more games of this dismal turgid season
2. We are so poor even an imbecile like Sullivan must know we need major surgery to the squad. Won’t get as lucky as this season with 3 atrocious teams taking the relegation places 

Fuck sake thought there were only 5 or 6 left.... EIGHT!  Think i would rather have a beer in the sun and watch the National sat then trek over there and see Bournemouth run around us. We're fucking toilet at the moment and Potter has been incredibly disappointing to say the least. If thats the best he can muster up after two weeks with them we're fucked. Thought he was a very good coach who would improve us tactically and improve individuals but theres been little sign of it. 

Thought AWB done well and Fullkrug worked hard and looked like he cared when he came on but the rest of them..........were any of them over a 4 out of 10? 

Going forward we are woeful, as predicted yesterday its just sideways and backwards bollocks till it goes out to the widemen. Yet again absoultely nothing through the middle, Paqueta last night was shocking. JWP just fizzes it sideways. Ferguson did he have a shot apart from the missed sitter?  

The 3 CB first half just passing it around the back with 0 idea how to progress it forward effectively. 

8 games seems a horrendous long slog left to endure.  If there is a break clause end of season with Potter the way its looking fuck him off and get Iranola or Corboran off Valencia. 

[Fauxstralian]

Have only watched Scarles in home games and did feel he was reluctant to take his man on and passed back inside most of the time
Whether that’s caution as a new player , under instruction to retain possession or because of a lack of options in the middle I don’t know
Should be encouraged and hopefully confidence will come with games
Potter as said has a great opportunity in 8 games to assess the whole squad & make some decisions on players if he hasn’t already 

[claypole]

If I was Potter I would want to match Loppys 23 points by the end of the season. I did see Scarles play some forward passes which was more than I saw from Jwp, I would expect Scarles on the bench for the next fixtures as most young players have dips.

[onsideman]

You don't have to look back to Howe to wonder what a new manager can do with apparently shit players.

There's a much more recent example. We played against them tonight.

We can't expect it though, for some reason. We're not allowed to expect a manager to be able to get a tune out of a half a billion pound squad. He's even managed to make our best player, and England forward who has been brilliant for years, look absolute jank. Takes some doing, that.

Wolves were shit tonight, they got lucky.

 

They are 5th in the form table, and played us off the park in the first half, shut up shop in the second as the win makes it mathematically impossible for them to get relegated I believe.

Stop trying to talk football, you're better off sticking to just calling people nicker wetters.

 

 

Well, not quite. Whilst it won't happen, it's still mathematically possible for anyone with 43 points or less to be relegated. 

I agree that Wolves weren't shit though. They should've been at least two up at the break and fluffed an easier chance than Soucek's at the end after another loss of possession by the hapless Paqueta 

[Manuel]

Better second half, but losing 1-0 to a side below us if fucking depressing.

I only watched 30 mins highlights, so no massive opinion on what unfolded, but what will be interesting is will Potter take the positives from the second half i.e more aggressive, getting forward quicker, Fullkrug etc, or revert to type with the tippy tappy crap on Saturday. It's all got a bit confusing now trying to see what this fella is doing or trying to do, is 5 at the back here to stay?

I know Scarles is above criticism, but seen a few comments that he only ever passes backwards? If true somebody should have a word in his shell and tell him that the goal is the other way. I assume he didn't do this at youth level, so it tells me the fella is a rabbit in the headlights at this level and probably out of his depth.

[Nutsin]

Here you go, something to cheer you all up!

Two of the best!

[nychammer]

Another dire performance. Lucky really the scoreline  wasnt bigger. We dont create chances and we have no system I can see. I do wonder if Potter is going to turn out a fraud. If we are still watching football like this at the beginning of next season he is going to be under a lot of pressure. 

we lost the game with an underwhelming and dire first half. We need to play the entire game like the second half but we also need to find goals. We probably about deserved a draw overall but we look horribly goal shy . We press more under Potter but we need to address the goal threat (lack thereof) once and for all in the summer.

[Full Claret Jacket]

Another dire performance. Lucky really the scoreline  wasnt bigger. We dont create chances and we have no system I can see. I do wonder if Potter is going to turn out a fraud. If we are still watching football like this at the beginning of next season he is going to be under a lot of pressure. 

[Fauxstralian]

Not seen the game but by the sound of it there are only a couple of positives 
1. We only have to endure 8 more games of this dismal turgid season
2. We are so poor even an imbecile like Sullivan must know we need major surgery to the squad. Won’t get as lucky as this season with 3 atrocious teams taking the relegation places 

[zebthecat]

FFS sake!
That is all.

[Mike Oxsaw]

..."Potter needs a transfer window and a preseason, "...

He's got more than that. He's got the pre-season plus 8 dead rubber games against proper league opposition.

He should be sticking Sullivan the finger and blooding all/any of the youths who show promise.

[Eerie Decent]

You don't have to look back to Howe to wonder what a new manager can do with apparently shit players.

There's a much more recent example. We played against them tonight.

We can't expect it though, for some reason. We're not allowed to expect a manager to be able to get a tune out of a half a billion pound squad. He's even managed to make our best player, and England forward who has been brilliant for years, look absolute jank. Takes some doing, that.

Wolves were shit tonight, they got lucky.

 

 

They are 5th in the form table, and played us off the park in the first half, shut up shop in the second as the win makes it mathematically impossible for them to get relegated I believe.

Stop trying to talk football, you're better off sticking to just calling people nicker wetters.

[zico]

Potter deserves a transfer window but must confess i'm wondering if all the Brighton fans I know were right when they said that Potter's teams run out of ideas once they are near the penalty area and the lack of goals certainly suggests that. Did Chelsea fans think the same? It's not his team though, and I think you can only fully judge when or if he gets his own players in. How many and how good they will be is another question entirely.

[honky cat]

Howe was similar to Potter with coming in mid season,  but as far as i remember there were doubts about him initially. Obvs the next season was a huge improvement but they splashed out big money on Gordon & Isak as well.

Potter needs a transfer window and a preseason, and to shift the deadwood inherited from moyes and loppy. Then i'll judge him.

 

[twoleftfeet]

You don't have to look back to Howe to wonder what a new manager can do with apparently shit players.

There's a much more recent example. We played against them tonight.

We can't expect it though, for some reason. We're not allowed to expect a manager to be able to get a tune out of a half a billion pound squad. He's even managed to make our best player, and England forward who has been brilliant for years, look absolute jank. Takes some doing, that.

Wolves were shit tonight, they got lucky.

[Eerie Decent]

You don't have to look back to Howe to wonder what a new manager can do with apparently shit players.

There's a much more recent example. We played against them tonight.

We can't expect it though, for some reason. We're not allowed to expect a manager to be able to get a tune out of a half a billion pound squad. He's even managed to make our best player, and England forward who has been brilliant for years, look absolute jank. Takes some doing, that.

[Mad Dog]

I can't wait for this miserable fucking season to end

[goose]

Do we think Fonseca, Iraola, Conceica and others could get much more from this squad? Is it all the manager?  Im not saying Potter is without fault and one if them might get a tad more from it but our squad,  its a tough hand to be dealt. 

So few options and lacking the legs and athletes to really compete in the Premiership regardless of manager is my take at this point.

Potter comes under the microscope proper next season for me assuming he gets in a few players he wants. 

Tonight? We looked much better when Alvarez / Soler made it a 4 in midfield and he, Soler and the German really helped.  We lost the game first half with just 2 in midfield and 3 strikers isolated as Wolves bossed the middle.  Still struggle to get and create much but again that will need more dynamism in the centre of the park.

Id only keep Alvarez and Paqueta in central midfield but the latter only if we cant get decent money for him. Anyone we can get decent money for Id be happy to let go tbh as we need a full rebuild again to get energy, pace and strength in.  

Keep the German, but need a young central striker. 2 central midfielders with that mych needed pace, strength and another CB quicker and better than Stavros and Kilman. Oh and a new keeper.  About 150 million again should do it. Shame we’re allegedly broke?  Kudus and a few others might get us a few bob for the coffers though because we are where we were 12 months ago and having to start over with this squad

 

is money the answer? I thought the idea with Potter is that he was a proper coach. Someone who can transform players, has patterns of play and actually analyses the opposition for weakness etc.

I'm not seeing any of that at the moment.

Eddie Howe took a shit Newcastle side, transformed a shit striker into a monster midfielder (JoeLinton) and just revamped the whole thing in his first few months. I think he only got Trippier in, I want to see some of that.

Lots of fans wanted amorim. Look how that panned out?
The Nottingham manager almost took Wolves down.
It's not easy to predict is it?

No he didn’t. They finished 13th when he left by mutual consent.
Nuno left Wolves to join a supposedly bigger club in spurs.

[threesixty]

True Howe did turn them around with little change but we are just so slow thru the middle. Even Howe might be pushed to get our central midfield competing when
we play 2 or even 3 in there. Joe Linton was converted to great success. He is strong and fast. Along with Bruno G and Tonali they dominate the middle and can all move at pace and are strong. Not sure we can convert anyone for that area and hard to pick a 3 from our squad that wont get over run.  

Potter may well be the next in the line of failures at West Ham but it seems harsh to oust him just yet imo until he has at least one transfer window. The current  West Ham squad is ( again imo ) not really fit for purpose in the Premiership and worse ( or shpuld I say much more unbalanced )than Newcastles was when Howe rocked up.

 

 

Well, I think it's hard for a team to absorb more than 2 or 3 1st team players and kick on. I think mass changes (like half the team) will send you backwards. So he needs to buy 2 or 3 amazingly useful players or we are fucked basically. 
The table doesn't lie, the current squad over the season will be 4th from the bottom of the league. He needs to coach himself out of this because I dont think we will buy our way out. 

[Sir Alf]

True Howe did turn them around with little change but we are just so slow thru the middle. Even Howe might be pushed to get our central midfield competing when
we play 2 or even 3 in there. Joe Linton was converted to great success. He is strong and fast. Along with Bruno G and Tonali they dominate the middle and can all move at pace and are strong. Not sure we can convert anyone for that area and hard to pick a 3 from our squad that wont get over run.  

Potter may well be the next in the line of failures at West Ham but it seems harsh to oust him just yet imo until he has at least one transfer window. The current  West Ham squad is ( again imo ) not really fit for purpose in the Premiership and worse ( or shpuld I say much more unbalanced )than Newcastles was when Howe rocked up.

[Maverick180180]

Do we think Fonseca, Iraola, Conceica and others could get much more from this squad? Is it all the manager?  Im not saying Potter is without fault and one if them might get a tad more from it but our squad,  its a tough hand to be dealt. 

So few options and lacking the legs and athletes to really compete in the Premiership regardless of manager is my take at this point.

Potter comes under the microscope proper next season for me assuming he gets in a few players he wants. 

Tonight? We looked much better when Alvarez / Soler made it a 4 in midfield and he, Soler and the German really helped.  We lost the game first half with just 2 in midfield and 3 strikers isolated as Wolves bossed the middle.  Still struggle to get and create much but again that will need more dynamism in the centre of the park.

Id only keep Alvarez and Paqueta in central midfield but the latter only if we cant get decent money for him. Anyone we can get decent money for Id be happy to let go tbh as we need a full rebuild again to get energy, pace and strength in.  

Keep the German, but need a young central striker. 2 central midfielders with that mych needed pace, strength and another CB quicker and better than Stavros and Kilman. Oh and a new keeper.  About 150 million again should do it. Shame we’re allegedly broke?  Kudus and a few others might get us a few bob for the coffers though because we are where we were 12 months ago and having to start over with this squad

 

is money the answer? I thought the idea with Potter is that he was a proper coach. Someone who can transform players, has patterns of play and actually analyses the opposition for weakness etc.

I'm not seeing any of that at the moment.

Eddie Howe took a shit Newcastle side, transformed a shit striker into a monster midfielder (JoeLinton) and just revamped the whole thing in his first few months. I think he only got Trippier in, I want to see some of that.

Lots of fans wanted amorim. Look how that panned out?
The Nottingham manager almost took Wolves down.
It's not easy to predict is it?

That post shows up your biased hypocrisy 

why are you judging Amorim who’s adopted the Man Utd squad but claim others can’t judge Potter for the same reason 

[Maverick180180]

Yawn

Oh yeah yawn
its so boring to complain about BORING football

 

 

Not as boring as reading boring posts like this 
You are a mess, get a grip maverick
No hard feelings, good night 

 

 

Sorry that the facts bore you 
cսnt!

[Keep dreaming]

Do we think Fonseca, Iraola, Conceica and others could get much more from this squad? Is it all the manager?  Im not saying Potter is without fault and one if them might get a tad more from it but our squad,  its a tough hand to be dealt. 

So few options and lacking the legs and athletes to really compete in the Premiership regardless of manager is my take at this point.

Potter comes under the microscope proper next season for me assuming he gets in a few players he wants. 

Tonight? We looked much better when Alvarez / Soler made it a 4 in midfield and he, Soler and the German really helped.  We lost the game first half with just 2 in midfield and 3 strikers isolated as Wolves bossed the middle.  Still struggle to get and create much but again that will need more dynamism in the centre of the park.

Id only keep Alvarez and Paqueta in central midfield but the latter only if we cant get decent money for him. Anyone we can get decent money for Id be happy to let go tbh as we need a full rebuild again to get energy, pace and strength in.  

Keep the German, but need a young central striker. 2 central midfielders with that mych needed pace, strength and another CB quicker and better than Stavros and Kilman. Oh and a new keeper.  About 150 million again should do it. Shame we’re allegedly broke?  Kudus and a few others might get us a few bob for the coffers though because we are where we were 12 months ago and having to start over with this squad

 

is money the answer? I thought the idea with Potter is that he was a proper coach. Someone who can transform players, has patterns of play and actually analyses the opposition for weakness etc.

I'm not seeing any of that at the moment.

Eddie Howe took a shit Newcastle side, transformed a shit striker into a monster midfielder (JoeLinton) and just revamped the whole thing in his first few months. I think he only got Trippier in, I want to see some of that.

Lots of fans wanted amorim. Look how that panned out?
The Nottingham manager almost took Wolves down.
It's not easy to predict is it?