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There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
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goose wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 14:44
Nutsin wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 13:53
goose wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 10:29 what's hilarious is that we have spent weeks talking about the markets reaction to Trump's crazy idea, and not the crazy idea itself.

we haven't even spoken about the actual thinking behind his decision. the assumption that somehow in the near future America is going to 100% produce cars, mobile phones, semi-conductors & chips, toys & games, Nikes etc etc.

it would take years and billions of dollars, and would end up with a great deal of retail price inflation.

as Dave Chappelle said - americans wanna wear Nikes, not make them!
Fuck me quoting David Chapelle lol!

That just about sums you up! 

Fucking Goose and Billy or should I say Dumb and Dumber!
You think Americans want to work in a Nike factory?
Are you speaking for the whole of the USA now Goose?

And do you think this is all about Nike ffs?

Fucking hell!
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Nutsin wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 13:53
goose wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 10:29 what's hilarious is that we have spent weeks talking about the markets reaction to Trump's crazy idea, and not the crazy idea itself.

we haven't even spoken about the actual thinking behind his decision. the assumption that somehow in the near future America is going to 100% produce cars, mobile phones, semi-conductors & chips, toys & games, Nikes etc etc.

it would take years and billions of dollars, and would end up with a great deal of retail price inflation.

as Dave Chappelle said - americans wanna wear Nikes, not make them!
Fuck me quoting David Chapelle lol!

That just about sums you up! 

Fucking Goose and Billy or should I say Dumb and Dumber!
But you Nutsack will always be the dumbest!
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Nutsin wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 13:53
goose wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 10:29 what's hilarious is that we have spent weeks talking about the markets reaction to Trump's crazy idea, and not the crazy idea itself.

we haven't even spoken about the actual thinking behind his decision. the assumption that somehow in the near future America is going to 100% produce cars, mobile phones, semi-conductors & chips, toys & games, Nikes etc etc.

it would take years and billions of dollars, and would end up with a great deal of retail price inflation.

as Dave Chappelle said - americans wanna wear Nikes, not make them!
Fuck me quoting David Chapelle lol!

That just about sums you up! 

Fucking Goose and Billy or should I say Dumb and Dumber!
You think Americans want to work in a Nike factory?
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Nutsin wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 13:48
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 09:38
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 23:36
The drop in market value happens, it’s not the first time, every so often the dog has to shake off its fleas, stock market does it to shake out the weak hands, the retail investors. 
A lot of people have been piling in on tech stocks because of AI, many on leverage, so margin calls and stop losses were triggered, a dip in gold prices shows people had to sell gold to cover the margin calls.

The days of long and strong have come to an end for the time being. 

Once we have a new global market place everyone will pile in again on leverage until the next shake out. 

It certainly wasn’t anywhere near the collapse you are making it out to be. 
Oh so inspite of the worlds finance experts saying its a massive crash self inflicted by Trump you and your MAGA/Fox buddies say its just a natural correction, which does happen from time to time.

So it was a coincidence then that Trump happened to announce the Tarrifs and the markets fell like a stone the biggest "correction" since Covid and then after delaying for 90 days they spiked back up. COINCIDENCE!!!!! 🤣

Now do you see why I am not convinced you know anything about markets. Wow thats a good one Nutsack you must be incredibly thick or on a wind up!! Or both. Probably the latter!
Here you go silly nuts, here is an article from the Associated Press. Ask Goose about the Associated Press he uses them all the time. 

https://apnews.com/article/financial-ma ... 23df450b72#


Nobody is saying that the correction wasn’t caused by Tarrifs, )although Trump did forewarn everyone that he was gonna place reciprocal Tarrifs on April 2nd plenty of times in March, so it wasn’t a surprise.)

But what we had was a Correction. Now stop showing yourself up! 
Ok good so you now admit that Trump caused the Correction and wiped out Trillions of dollars worth of investments - for no good reason! But come on it was a massive surprise to the markets as to the ridiculous size and potential impacts to the US economy - otherwise if they knew what was coming those adjustments/corrections would already have been baked in - but they weren't - so yes it was a surprise! Except for you obviously cos you got your finger on it - plus Trumps cronies all made a killing too!
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goose wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 10:29 what's hilarious is that we have spent weeks talking about the markets reaction to Trump's crazy idea, and not the crazy idea itself.

we haven't even spoken about the actual thinking behind his decision. the assumption that somehow in the near future America is going to 100% produce cars, mobile phones, semi-conductors & chips, toys & games, Nikes etc etc.

it would take years and billions of dollars, and would end up with a great deal of retail price inflation.

as Dave Chappelle said - americans wanna wear Nikes, not make them!
Fuck me quoting David Chapelle lol!

That just about sums you up! 

Fucking Goose and Billy or should I say Dumb and Dumber!
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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 09:38
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 23:36
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 23:04
 
You see Nutsack its this lack of any understanding of the markets reaction that leads me to think you have no understanding of the markets so you cant be a trader.

Btw the rest of the world will stop doing business with the US if Trump continues to piss his allies off!

Oh dear just read that bit about the "negotiations going on right now".....You believe that 75 countries are kissing the Trumpsters ass to get a deal!!!! You are more deluded than Trump! 🤣
The drop in market value happens, it’s not the first time, every so often the dog has to shake off its fleas, stock market does it to shake out the weak hands, the retail investors. 
A lot of people have been piling in on tech stocks because of AI, many on leverage, so margin calls and stop losses were triggered, a dip in gold prices shows people had to sell gold to cover the margin calls.

The days of long and strong have come to an end for the time being. 

Once we have a new global market place everyone will pile in again on leverage until the next shake out. 

It certainly wasn’t anywhere near the collapse you are making it out to be. 
Oh so inspite of the worlds finance experts saying its a massive crash self inflicted by Trump you and your MAGA/Fox buddies say its just a natural correction, which does happen from time to time.

So it was a coincidence then that Trump happened to announce the Tarrifs and the markets fell like a stone the biggest "correction" since Covid and then after delaying for 90 days they spiked back up. COINCIDENCE!!!!! 🤣

Now do you see why I am not convinced you know anything about markets. Wow thats a good one Nutsack you must be incredibly thick or on a wind up!! Or both. Probably the latter!
Here you go silly nuts, here is an article from the Associated Press. Ask Goose about the Associated Press he uses them all the time. 

https://apnews.com/article/financial-ma ... 23df450b72#


Nobody is saying that the correction wasn’t caused by Tarrifs, )although Trump did forewarn everyone that he was gonna place reciprocal Tarrifs on April 2nd plenty of times in March, so it wasn’t a surprise.)

But what we had was a Correction. Now stop showing yourself up! 
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goose wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 10:29 what's hilarious is that we have spent weeks talking about the markets reaction to Trump's crazy idea, and not the crazy idea itself.

we haven't even spoken about the actual thinking behind his decision. the assumption that somehow in the near future America is going to 100% produce cars, mobile phones, semi-conductors & chips, toys & games, Nikes etc etc.

it would take years and billions of dollars, and would end up with a great deal of retail price inflation.

as Dave Chappelle said - americans wanna wear Nikes, not make them!
Goose you are crediting Dippy Donald with some form of thinking or strategy. He seems to flip flop between tarrifs pros and cons. First they will increase tax revenue so he can give his billionaire cronies futher tax cuts. Then to it'll make manufactureres move their factories to the US which would in turn reduce tarrif tax revenue. To all the world bowing to his deal which would reduce world wide trade barriers and tarrifs, again reducing tax revenue but would also result in manufacturers not needing to move factories to the US as no tarrifs to pay.

He seems to also think that these deals and reduced tarrifs will somehow result in balanced trade deficits. Without actually understanding why those deficits exist. Like because Vietnam dont buy American cars because they cant afford them yet US want cheap cars from Vietnam. So what US goods will they buy to bridge the gap!

Just not thought through and grossly unfair!
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what's hilarious is that we have spent weeks talking about the markets reaction to Trump's crazy idea, and not the crazy idea itself.

we haven't even spoken about the actual thinking behind his decision. the assumption that somehow in the near future America is going to 100% produce cars, mobile phones, semi-conductors & chips, toys & games, Nikes etc etc.

it would take years and billions of dollars, and would end up with a great deal of retail price inflation.

as Dave Chappelle said - americans wanna wear Nikes, not make them!
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Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 23:36
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 23:04
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:15
Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.

The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.

China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.
 
You see Nutsack its this lack of any understanding of the markets reaction that leads me to think you have no understanding of the markets so you cant be a trader.

Btw the rest of the world will stop doing business with the US if Trump continues to piss his allies off!

Oh dear just read that bit about the "negotiations going on right now".....You believe that 75 countries are kissing the Trumpsters ass to get a deal!!!! You are more deluded than Trump! 🤣
The drop in market value happens, it’s not the first time, every so often the dog has to shake off its fleas, stock market does it to shake out the weak hands, the retail investors. 
A lot of people have been piling in on tech stocks because of AI, many on leverage, so margin calls and stop losses were triggered, a dip in gold prices shows people had to sell gold to cover the margin calls.

The days of long and strong have come to an end for the time being. 

Once we have a new global market place everyone will pile in again on leverage until the next shake out. 

It certainly wasn’t anywhere near the collapse you are making it out to be. 
Oh so inspite of the worlds finance experts saying its a massive crash self inflicted by Trump you and your MAGA/Fox buddies say its just a natural correction, which does happen from time to time.

So it was a coincidence then that Trump happened to announce the Tarrifs and the markets fell like a stone the biggest "correction" since Covid and then after delaying for 90 days they spiked back up. COINCIDENCE!!!!! 🤣

Now do you see why I am not convinced you know anything about markets. Wow thats a good one Nutsack you must be incredibly thick or on a wind up!! Or both. Probably the latter!
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Nutsin wrote: 15 Apr 2025, 02:47
Hammer I am" wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 23:51 if not then I'm sure the platinum bullion dealer can make a small donation to keep us ticking over
Platinums the pig of the complex, It’s not even the highest priced PGM.

If you must know, I trade more silver than anything. Much more volatility which is exactly what you want when you trade. Gold is more of a buy and hold.


Let me know if I can help you out some more. You’re obviously clueless.
You must have deep pockets to trade Silver, assume its futures? that was always a big arse contract to trade on the CME and at today's prices even bigger! mind you they have a mini and micro now, expect liquidity in those smaller contracts is ok now?  Gold is/was a cսnt to trade so in the main i avoided it, as like the Emini S&P and Nasdaq, every day trader and his/her dog was trying to make money in these markets in particular, making it a bit of a shark tank, slippage could be brutal a times in gold as they pour in or out, trend following it was ok but meant hanging around tying up money for months at times, and then could easily fall in a heap/go to the moon on news like NFP etc, for the most part i was always square at the end of the day, so indexes in my time zone were more my thing.


Your right about volatility though, the Hang Seng and SGX Nikkei where my favorites, but fuck me you needed to change the trousers on a regular basis🤣💩 sadly after the floor closed the markets after a few years had got way too efficient as computers took over from human emotions and those huge mispricing you could jump on started drying up, today they have all but gone😑
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Hammer I am" wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 23:51 if not then I'm sure the platinum bullion dealer can make a small donation to keep us ticking over
Platinums the pig of the complex, It’s not even the highest priced PGM.

If you must know, I trade more silver than anything. Much more volatility which is exactly what you want when you trade. Gold is more of a buy and hold.


Let me know if I can help you out some more. You’re obviously clueless.
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if not then I'm sure the platinum bullion dealer can make a small donation to keep us ticking over
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is any of the WHO fund left for Nutsin?, been a while since I've checked in but the guy is clearly not well
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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 23:04
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:15
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:09
So why didn’t any of the financial markets agree with your take on this?
equities and bonds both gave the idea a resounding ‘no’.
Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.

The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.

China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.
 
You see Nutsack its this lack of any understanding of the markets reaction that leads me to think you have no understanding of the markets so you cant be a trader.

Btw the rest of the world will stop doing business with the US if Trump continues to piss his allies off!

Oh dear just read that bit about the "negotiations going on right now".....You believe that 75 countries are kissing the Trumpsters ass to get a deal!!!! You are more deluded than Trump! 🤣
The drop in market value happens, it’s not the first time, every so often the dog has to shake off its fleas, stock market does it to shake out the weak hands, the retail investors. 
A lot of people have been piling in on tech stocks because of AI, many on leverage, so margin calls and stop losses were triggered, a dip in gold prices shows people had to sell gold to cover the margin calls.

The days of long and strong have come to an end for the time being. 

Once we have a new global market place everyone will pile in again on leverage until the next shake out. 

It certainly wasn’t anywhere near the collapse you are making it out to be. 
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Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:15
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:09
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:06
If at the end of the day you think that the USA won’t come out of this with a huge win in a reduction in global Tarrifs from original levels levied against the USA and removal of trade barriers and a reduction in trade deficits then you have to be retarded. This whole move will end up being a big win for US companies coming in from around the world including China.

Trump is yet to announce Tarrifs on pharmaceuticals, most of which are provided by Ireland and China, there are 286 Chinese companies that are under threat of being delisted from IS exchanges. Sure they won’t like that. Yeah there will be short term pain that can be managed to a minimum, which is exactly what’s happening.
Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the US helps with supply chain issues too, further reducing inflation pressure. As wel as a matter of national security. So many ways the US will end up benefiting from it all that you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that this will end up being nothing but a big win for US jobs, economy and businesses. It will bring results and will create a much fairer system for global trade.
So why didn’t any of the financial markets agree with your take on this?
equities and bonds both gave the idea a resounding ‘no’.
Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.

The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.

China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.
 
 
You see Nutsack its this lack of any understanding of the markets reaction that leads me to think you have no understanding of the markets so you cant be a trader.

Btw the rest of the world will stop doing business with the US if Trump continues to piss his allies off!

Oh dear just read that bit about the "negotiations going on right now".....You believe that 75 countries are kissing the Trumpsters ass to get a deal!!!! You are more deluded than Trump! 🤣
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goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 23:00
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:46
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:29
Oh yeah I’m sure Trump absolutely planned to humiliate himself.
How has he humiliated himself? As he said if you hit a wall then you have to look at going over it, under it or around it. This isn’t Joe Biden ffs!
 
No you’re right, even without his mental capabilities Joe never managed to do a ‘Liz Truss’ like Trump did.
Trump doesn’t need to win this in a week, you do realize that right?
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Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:46
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:29
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:28
Backtrack ffs! What a simpleton! You need to stop watching CNN ffs! It’s costing you money!
Oh yeah I’m sure Trump absolutely planned to humiliate himself.
How has he humiliated himself? As he said if you hit a wall then you have to look at going over it, under it or around it. This isn’t Joe Biden ffs!
 
 
No you’re right, even without his mental capabilities Joe never managed to do a ‘Liz Truss’ like Trump did.
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Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 20:31
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 20:27
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 20:01
You come on here bloviating about Trump backtracking on his Tariffs with China, (the country that supports our common enemy Putin.) as if it’s some kind of victory. That’s how fucking mental you are.

You live under a Gov’t Born out of Fabianism which is morphing into Totalitarianism yet you can’t see what’s happening in front of your very eyes and you’ve got the nerve to criticize me ffs? 

At least I know whose side I should be on ffs! 

As Trump said China has been getting away with murder for years at the expense of the whole world. The only people upset are the Oligarchy bankers and hedge fund managers.

He also said you have to be flexible, which makes sense, so if Trump makes adjustments along the way to achieve free and fair global trading for all then so be it.

Nothing has been won or lost at this point you fuckwit.

All we can do is pounce on Any opportunities along the way, I suggest you get a clue. Because you-you look like a right cսnt with your stupid celebratory posts!
 
Yeh I’m celebrating because the way he landed those tariffs and the thinking behind the size of them was ridiculous and has far reaching consequences.

I’m glad I was right. Let’s not pretend Trump’s backtracking was anything other than forced.

as for the U.K., it has zero relevance to my post. You’ve proven on numerous occasions that you have very little understanding of what’s happening in this country.
Yeah, I guess all the protestors I see marching through the streets of the U K and Ireland waving their flags are all actors, right Goose? 

You need to remember we have freedom of speech and freedom of press over here, we get to see what’s going on.
Show us the videos of all these people marching on the streets waving flags Nutsack. You have no clue do you! 

Weve debunked your free speech already and the press secretary will be back tracking on banning the AP soon too. You dont even kbow whats going on under your own nose. Yet you have the audacity to try to tell us whats going on in the UK.
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goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:29
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:28
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:21
Prices aren’t set on emotions. People who get paid huge sums of money to understand the impacts of this decided they didn’t like it. Hence the sell off, hence the panic, hence Trump making an embarrassing climb down followed by some embarrassing concessions.

btw I love how you’re positioning the backtrack as part of the process.
Backtrack ffs! What a simpleton! You need to stop watching CNN ffs! It’s costing you money!
Oh yeah I’m sure Trump absolutely planned to humiliate himself.
How has he humiliated himself? As he said if you hit a wall then you have to look at going over it, under it or around it. This isn’t Joe Biden ffs!
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Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:28
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:21
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:15
Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.

The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.

China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.
Prices aren’t set on emotions. People who get paid huge sums of money to understand the impacts of this decided they didn’t like it. Hence the sell off, hence the panic, hence Trump making an embarrassing climb down followed by some embarrassing concessions.

btw I love how you’re positioning the backtrack as part of the process.
Backtrack ffs! What a simpleton! You need to stop watching CNN ffs! It’s costing you money!
Oh yeah I’m sure Trump absolutely planned to humiliate himself.
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goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:21
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:15
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:09
So why didn’t any of the financial markets agree with your take on this?
equities and bonds both gave the idea a resounding ‘no’.
Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.

The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.

China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.
Prices aren’t set on emotions. People who get paid huge sums of money to understand the impacts of this decided they didn’t like it. Hence the sell off, hence the panic, hence Trump making an embarrassing climb down followed by some embarrassing concessions.

btw I love how you’re positioning the backtrack as part of the process.
Backtrack ffs! What a simpleton! You need to stop watching CNN ffs! It’s costing you money!
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Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:15
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:09
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:06
If at the end of the day you think that the USA won’t come out of this with a huge win in a reduction in global Tarrifs from original levels levied against the USA and removal of trade barriers and a reduction in trade deficits then you have to be retarded. This whole move will end up being a big win for US companies coming in from around the world including China.

Trump is yet to announce Tarrifs on pharmaceuticals, most of which are provided by Ireland and China, there are 286 Chinese companies that are under threat of being delisted from IS exchanges. Sure they won’t like that. Yeah there will be short term pain that can be managed to a minimum, which is exactly what’s happening.
Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the US helps with supply chain issues too, further reducing inflation pressure. As wel as a matter of national security. So many ways the US will end up benefiting from it all that you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that this will end up being nothing but a big win for US jobs, economy and businesses. It will bring results and will create a much fairer system for global trade.
So why didn’t any of the financial markets agree with your take on this?
equities and bonds both gave the idea a resounding ‘no’.
Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.

The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.

China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.
Prices aren’t set on emotions. People who get paid huge sums of money to understand the impacts of this decided they didn’t like it. Hence the sell off, hence the panic, hence Trump making an embarrassing climb down followed by some embarrassing concessions.

btw I love how you’re positioning the backtrack as part of the process.
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goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:09
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:06
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 21:51
Won’t lose doesn’t equal ‘they’ve won’.
Theres a world where both lose, but you won’t like that world.

Like I told you, they don’t have to worry about public opinion or mid terms or the price of eggs. If they wanna drop interest rates they will. If they wanna force retailers not to pass through cost inflation, they will.
If at the end of the day you think that the USA won’t come out of this with a huge win in a reduction in global Tarrifs from original levels levied against the USA and removal of trade barriers and a reduction in trade deficits then you have to be retarded. This whole move will end up being a big win for US companies coming in from around the world including China.

Trump is yet to announce Tarrifs on pharmaceuticals, most of which are provided by Ireland and China, there are 286 Chinese companies that are under threat of being delisted from IS exchanges. Sure they won’t like that. Yeah there will be short term pain that can be managed to a minimum, which is exactly what’s happening.
Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the US helps with supply chain issues too, further reducing inflation pressure. As wel as a matter of national security. So many ways the US will end up benefiting from it all that you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that this will end up being nothing but a big win for US jobs, economy and businesses. It will bring results and will create a much fairer system for global trade.
So why didn’t any of the financial markets agree with your take on this?
equities and bonds both gave the idea a resounding ‘no’.
Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.

The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.

China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.
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If you think we can’t create new agreements with other countries, such as Vietnam, India etc, then you’re delusional. It might take a minute but they’re replaceable, the US consumer isn’t.
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Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 22:06
goose wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 21:51
Nutsin wrote: 14 Apr 2025, 21:43
China hasn’t won anything you idiot!
Won’t lose doesn’t equal ‘they’ve won’.
Theres a world where both lose, but you won’t like that world.

Like I told you, they don’t have to worry about public opinion or mid terms or the price of eggs. If they wanna drop interest rates they will. If they wanna force retailers not to pass through cost inflation, they will.
If at the end of the day you think that the USA won’t come out of this with a huge win in a reduction in global Tarrifs from original levels levied against the USA and removal of trade barriers and a reduction in trade deficits then you have to be retarded. This whole move will end up being a big win for US companies coming in from around the world including China.

Trump is yet to announce Tarrifs on pharmaceuticals, most of which are provided by Ireland and China, there are 286 Chinese companies that are under threat of being delisted from IS exchanges. Sure they won’t like that. Yeah there will be short term pain that can be managed to a minimum, which is exactly what’s happening.
Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the US helps with supply chain issues too, further reducing inflation pressure. As wel as a matter of national security. So many ways the US will end up benefiting from it all that you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that this will end up being nothing but a big win for US jobs, economy and businesses. It will bring results and will create a much fairer system for global trade.
So why didn’t any of the financial markets agree with your take on this?
equities and bonds both gave the idea a resounding ‘no’.
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