Potter Out

[THUNDERCLINT]

Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.

[Steady]

We're barely seeing any goals every week, especially for us, that's why he's taken us from 13th in the league to 17th (THIRTEENTH to SEVENTEENTH). His teams have always struggled to score goals, so quite why anyone thinks that'll change after this summer is anyone's guess.

You're another one who's been hoodwinked by this not conceding goals thing. The other end of the pitch is far more important overall, because you will not win games without scoring goals.

I just think he deserves to be judged after a pre-season and a transfer window where he hopefully gets backed. If we’re still struggling to score with a fit Fullkrug next season (and hopefully another decent striker), then fair enough he should get some stick 

I'd be inclined to agree, if he had a history of managing teams that scored goals. He has the opposite.

I'm looking forward to the early excuses next season of 'he can't be expected to get all the new players to gel straight away' after having a full pre-season as well as the end to this season. He has Jarrod Bowen, and England international forward, Kudus, who's been rated at £100mil on here before, Paqueta who Man City nearly signed for £85mil. Soler was signed by PSG, he has an outstanding pedigree. Other clubs would kill for that attacking talent.

No one can answer why Wolves were able to turn from being 19th in the league, mixing with the absolute dross who are about to be relegated this season, into a really good, attacking team. Why has their manager been able to do that with an inferior squad to ours?

I've said before, we have a big problem over that stadium. I'm not sure if you go to games, but for those who do,  it needs something to cheer about over there to build a bit of spirit in the club. This geezer has no excuse to not be going all out in home games, we' re lucky enough that we won't finish below 17th (although he's done his best to get close) so quite why the fuck he's bored the home fans to tears trying to draw 0-0 regardless of opposition, is anyone's guess.

Trust me, loads are not going to renew, because it's such an effort going over there watching that dross. Very easy posting on here 'give him time!' when you don't make the time & effort, as well as the cost, to go over there. He has a duty to try to show much more than what we've been served up.

Yes I turn up regular with my son even with us having moved to Somerset. Went to the Palace game which was awful, thought we played ok against Bournemouth. And yes we will again be going vs Southampton where I expect us to win comfortably. Ask me after that game, I may well have  changed my tune dependant on the result and performance !!

[Manuel]

He's just done his presser, I won't put it up as he said exactly the same as last week and the week before.

[THUNDERCLINT]

I can’t believe you lot are playing along with these Spurs cunts

 

To quote Phoenix Nights, " I'm getting the word..."

[Eerie Decent]

Give the bloke a chance, he needs a pre-season and time to get his own players in. Pep couldn’t get a tune out of our central midfield, at least we’re not seeing 4 and 5 goals going in against us every other week 

We're barely seeing any goals every week, especially for us, that's why he's taken us from 13th in the league to 17th (THIRTEENTH to SEVENTEENTH). His teams have always struggled to score goals, so quite why anyone thinks that'll change after this summer is anyone's guess.

You're another one who's been hoodwinked by this not conceding goals thing. The other end of the pitch is far more important overall, because you will not win games without scoring goals.

I just think he deserves to be judged after a pre-season and a transfer window where he hopefully gets backed. If we’re still struggling to score with a fit Fullkrug next season (and hopefully another decent striker), then fair enough he should get some stick 

I'd be inclined to agree, if he had a history of managing teams that scored goals. He has the opposite.

I'm looking forward to the early excuses next season of 'he can't be expected to get all the new players to gel straight away' after having a full pre-season as well as the end to this season. He has Jarrod Bowen, and England international forward, Kudus, who's been rated at £100mil on here before, Paqueta who Man City nearly signed for £85mil. Soler was signed by PSG, he has an outstanding pedigree. Other clubs would kill for that attacking talent.

No one can answer why Wolves were able to turn from being 19th in the league, mixing with the absolute dross who are about to be relegated this season, into a really good, attacking team. Why has their manager been able to do that with an inferior squad to ours?

I've said before, we have a big problem over that stadium. I'm not sure if you go to games, but for those who do,  it needs something to cheer about over there to build a bit of spirit in the club. This geezer has no excuse to not be going all out in home games, we' re lucky enough that we won't finish below 17th (although he's done his best to get close) so quite why the fuck he's bored the home fans to tears trying to draw 0-0 regardless of opposition, is anyone's guess.

Trust me, loads are not going to renew, because it's such an effort going over there watching that dross. Very easy posting on here 'give him time!' when you don't make the time & effort, as well as the cost, to go over there. He has a duty to try to show much more than what we've been served up.

[stubbo]

Tend to agree Eerie.

The teams that can't put the ball in the other team's net are the ones that get relegated.

[Steady]

Give the bloke a chance, he needs a pre-season and time to get his own players in. Pep couldn’t get a tune out of our central midfield, at least we’re not seeing 4 and 5 goals going in against us every other week 

We're barely seeing any goals every week, especially for us, that's why he's taken us from 13th in the league to 17th (THIRTEENTH to SEVENTEENTH). His teams have always struggled to score goals, so quite why anyone thinks that'll change after this summer is anyone's guess.

You're another one who's been hoodwinked by this not conceding goals thing. The other end of the pitch is far more important overall, because you will not win games without scoring goals.

I just think he deserves to be judged after a pre-season and a transfer window where he hopefully gets backed. If we’re still struggling to score with a fit Fullkrug next season (and hopefully another decent striker), then fair enough he should get some stick 

[Eerie Decent]

Give the bloke a chance, he needs a pre-season and time to get his own players in. Pep couldn’t get a tune out of our central midfield, at least we’re not seeing 4 and 5 goals going in against us every other week 

We're barely seeing any goals every week, especially for us, that's why he's taken us from 13th in the league to 17th (THIRTEENTH to SEVENTEENTH). His teams have always struggled to score goals, so quite why anyone thinks that'll change after this summer is anyone's guess.

You're another one who's been hoodwinked by this not conceding goals thing. The other end of the pitch is far more important overall, because you will not win games without scoring goals.

[twoleftfeet]

I can’t believe you lot are playing along with these Spurs cunts

They might be crying later.

[Steady]

Give the bloke a chance, he needs a pre-season and time to get his own players in. Pep couldn’t get a tune out of our central midfield, at least we’re not seeing 4 and 5 goals going in against us every other week 

[Eerie Decent]

"Isn't the problem with these "manager out" posts that there's never any realistic suggestions of who should be the next manager in."


This bollocks is trotted out all the fucking time, seriously, what sort nonsense is that?

Away from the fact that the likes of Bournemouth & Crystal fucking Palace can go out and getting better managers than us, what about when Villa got Emery?

They were shitter than us at the time, and we were fucking shit in the league, Villa acted and got rid of Gerrard, then spent money to get Emery.

We sat on our hands, kept Moyes, and what has proceeded is 3 years of mostly dirge in terms of league form and performances.

So yes, there are realistic options out there, and many of us have made those suggestions. We could've got Silva off Fulham at one point, 100%, as one example.

[El Scorchio]

I'm not that fussed which 11 players he picks and in what formation. The important thing is what happens on the pitch. I know some like to lose their shit over the team sheet before a ball is even kicked.



 

I think people "lose their shit" when they see the team sheet because they usually know exactly what's going to happen on the pitch and it ain't good. Some time during the 2nd half he'll change the set up and bring on the players he should have started with and now we suddenly play better. Shame it's too late to actually win the game. Happens almost every match. That's why people lose their shit.

 

 

I know. I just prefer to wait until I’ve actually seen a ball being kicked before making my judgement. Especially with a match like the one coming up. 

Don’t get me wrong, we need a performance and we need to be on the front foot, pressure and score goals, but the 11 on paper doesn’t necessarily guarantee or preclude that from happening. 

[Mad Ferret]

Graham Lopebrummie

[fraser]

I'm not that fussed which 11 players he picks and in what formation. The important thing is what happens on the pitch. I know some like to lose their shit over the team sheet before a ball is even kicked.


 

I think people "lose their shit" when they see the team sheet because they usually know exactly what's going to happen on the pitch and it ain't good. Some time during the 2nd half he'll change the set up and bring on the players he should have started with and now we suddenly play better. Shame it's too late to actually win the game. Happens almost every match. That's why people lose their shit.

Yep starting poorly most games, changing it for the better most second halves, then revert back to what didn't work next game, before changing it again. How about keep running with something that worked not something that didn't. 

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

I'm not that fussed which 11 players he picks and in what formation. The important thing is what happens on the pitch. I know some like to lose their shit over the team sheet before a ball is even kicked.

 

I think people "lose their shit" when they see the team sheet because they usually know exactly what's going to happen on the pitch and it ain't good. Some time during the 2nd half he'll change the set up and bring on the players he should have started with and now we suddenly play better. Shame it's too late to actually win the game. Happens almost every match. That's why people lose their shit.

[El Scorchio]

I'm not that fussed which 11 players he picks and in what formation. The important thing is what happens on the pitch. I know some like to lose their shit over the team sheet before a ball is even kicked.

Regardless of who he puts out, I don't care as long as they go at Southampton with positive intent and score a couple, preferably one quite early.

I hope Fullkrug starts, but whether he does or not, we can seemingly only hope for 45 mins out of him. I think he will.

[THUNDERCLINT]

I wanted Fonseca over Amorim. We had 2 great chances to get him but that's never going to happen now.

Looks like Iraola is staying at Bournemouth so the only option is try for which ever one of Frank or Silva don't get picked up by Spurs. Unless, by some miracle, Glasner can be talking into leaving Palace.

[Sir Alf]

Correct Cerveza.  Moyes 2 seasons of relative success in the league were an unexpected accident in truth that led to getting a third tier Euro trophy in season 3 where our league form had returned to shite.

I would not expect any manager to be successful at West Ham under Sullivan especially now he’s got what he always wanted, to be de facto DOF again. Coupled with his one dimensional approach of appointing old, 60 year old, out of work managers ( Brady bucked the trend to recommend young 50 year old Potter against Sullivan’s better judgement). The manager Sullivan wants has to be at a low ebb, failed at last club but once managed a big club that was in Europe for the “razzle dazzle” bling factor that makes Sullivan feel like a “big shot”.

But to repeat, even if we could pick any manager their chance of success is very low with Sullivan running the club.  

[Cerveza Para Mi]

Isn't the problem with these "manager out" posts that there's never any realistic suggestions of who should be the next manager in.

When it was obvious Moyes was on his way out there were the clicjk bait brigade, like Mad Nick on Claret & Booze creaming his jockeys that we were going to get Amorim, however unrealistic most of us thought that was.  Then after we'd somnehow lost to Leicester, despite apparently having had more shots at goalk than West Ham had ever had in an away game, he was critical that we didn't "go for van Nistelrooy when he was available".

The stumpy little Russian wannabe who runs the club likes his manager picks to be out of work so it's fairly evident that any manager who might be in line should Potter prove not to be up to the job will be picked from the list of those recentl.y sacked for failing to live up to the expectations of their previous employers.

Sad but true.

[Manuel]

I don't thinnk Fullkrug will start...all the noise form the club is he's not fit enough to do so.

If he starts he'll probably have to come off at half time.

Hopefully in this game we don't start with 4 at the back though, have Soler and Paqueta in the team as our most progressive midfielders, and if we don't start with Fullkrug, start with either Guilherme or Ferguson (as opposed to an extra Centre Back or Alvarez/Soucek).

Wouldn't surprise me to see us start like this though:

Areola
Wan Bissaka Todibo Kilman Scarles
Soler Ward-Prowse
Kudus Soucek Paqueta
Bowen

You may well be right and we might find out more in his presser, but the fella was out for a few months with a hamstring, he should be up to speed by now, if not then he's pretty much broken and won't be of much use.

[THUNDERCLINT]

You're correct a good performance proves nothing but a negative one is unacceptable 

It speaks to the nature of the man.

If he doesn't have the conviction to go for it on Saturday then when will he?

More insipid dross on Saturday and he needs to go. Any money given to him in the summer will be wasted on players to fit his boring shite football.

[fraser]

Thinking back to when he got his injury it was  mentioned that he would have to nurse it for the remainder of his career, he's adapted better to the league than I thought he would, but we need someone who can be relied on and it def3doesnt look like he's it, as for Ferguson... Another brilliant striker recruitment season by us... 

[stubbo]

I don't thinnk Fullkrug will start...all the noise form the club is he's not fit enough to do so.

If he starts he'll probably have to come off at half time.

Hopefully in this game we don't start with 4 at the back though, have Soler and Paqueta in the team as our most progressive midfielders, and if we don't start with Fullkrug, start with either Guilherme or Ferguson (as opposed to an extra Centre Back or Alvarez/Soucek).

Wouldn't surprise me to see us start like this though:

Areola
Wan Bissaka Todibo Kilman Scarles
Soler Ward-Prowse
Kudus Soucek Paqueta
Bowen

[Manuel]

You're correct a good performance proves nothing but a negative one is unacceptable 

True, and no doubt that's where the interest is.

[fraser]

You're correct a good performance proves nothing but a negative one is unacceptable 

[Manuel]

I don't like games like this Saturday, as not really sure what we will be able take away from it. We are basically up against a non opponent, an absolute fucking disgrace of a so called top flight side, as we were with Leicester the other week. Even if we produce a 'good' performance, so what?? It proves nothing. We'd have to win by at least 4 or 5 for it to be anything more than what you would deem as 'progress'.

As for playing a forward, I suspect the German will start. It's all a bit too obvious to me. Is Potter proving to be a bit of a tit? Yes. Is he a complete tit? Probably not. I doubt he'll want to rile the fan base up even more and give us some more ammo to chuck at him.

We might get a few clues in his cumbersome, boring presser later.