Potter Out

[THUNDERCLINT]

Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Tony Mowbray took over West Brom in January he won 5 out of 18 games and tanked their season.

Sound familiar?

Well West Brom just binned him, no fucking pearl clutching about signing players or giving him more time they just told him he was a cսnt and sent him packing.

Get it fucking done Sullivan.

[Maverick180180]

Considering who is available right now and the need for some stability, I'd keep him and see how the summer goes.  But he has to hit the ground running in the new season.

As some have said, his selections have been a bit worrying.  He played some of the kids in the earlier games when we arguably needed to pick up points to ensure safety, but we have reached a point where Guido Rodiriguez makes the bench when it's abundantly clear he's gone in the summer, probably same for Creswell.

This isn't just a Potter thing though.  We've had so many nothing seasons in the last 20 years where we are safe from relegation with nothing left to play for in the final run-in and for me, this is always the perfect chance to give a few youngsters an opportunity with a little less pressure.

But we never do it.  Not under any recent manager.





 

Would you give him a contract, had he come in and initially only signed as a caretaker for the rest of the season?

I reckon this is the worst case of a new manager going into a club in mid season. I can't think of anyone who has taken a club relatively comfortable in mid table, and turned them into a team on par with some of the worst the Premier League has ever seen.

I'm absolutely baffled by those shrugging their shoulders, and saying 'ah, give him the summer, he deserves it'
He has been fucking abysmal. I'm stunned he has so many backers.

Spot on 

I don’t get why so many people won’t compare him to Lopetegui 
it’s an identical situation, everything that’s been written about the transfers at the start of the season says that Rodriguez and Kilman were Lopetegui’s only picks
now those 2 players have been absolute crap
but for the rest of the squad, it wasn’t selected by him.
In January Potter insisted on bringing back Ward-Prowse  and bringing in Ferguson, those 2 players have also been absolute crap, but he chose 2 players just like Lopetegui got
but out of the two of them Lopetegui was scoring more goals and getting more points on the board, albeit very badly and was rightfully sacked 
but Potter is being given every luxury to get away with what Lopetegui couldn’t 
And worst of all is this ridiculous notion being peddled about that Potter will do much better next season once we have a better squad…well what manager wouldn’t? If we get better players in and the results pick up that’s down to the players not cos Potter suddenly became a great coach 

[Eerie Decent]

Considering who is available right now and the need for some stability, I'd keep him and see how the summer goes.  But he has to hit the ground running in the new season.

As some have said, his selections have been a bit worrying.  He played some of the kids in the earlier games when we arguably needed to pick up points to ensure safety, but we have reached a point where Guido Rodiriguez makes the bench when it's abundantly clear he's gone in the summer, probably same for Creswell.

This isn't just a Potter thing though.  We've had so many nothing seasons in the last 20 years where we are safe from relegation with nothing left to play for in the final run-in and for me, this is always the perfect chance to give a few youngsters an opportunity with a little less pressure.

But we never do it.  Not under any recent manager.



 

Would you give him a contract, had he come in and initially only signed as a caretaker for the rest of the season?

I reckon this is the worst case of a new manager going into a club in mid season. I can't think of anyone who has taken a club relatively comfortable in mid table, and turned them into a team on par with some of the worst the Premier League has ever seen.

I'm absolutely baffled by those shrugging their shoulders, and saying 'ah, give him the summer, he deserves it'
He has been fucking abysmal. I'm stunned he has so many backers.

[Russ of the BML]

 

Spurs/Man U have outside chance of champions league and no way bothered about playing us and Ipswich are actually a worse team than us
Brighton are in poor form plus Forest are going to blow out on champions league place
I do apologise for being an optimist you miserable doom and gloom no mark 

Spurs and Man Utd have an outside chance of CL?

Are you looking at the right year's league table?

The winner of the EL gets into the CL.

More to the point joyo is still playing the role of simple optimistic and club man, and STILL spinning the ''doom and gloom'' line. I wonder what it would take for him to criticize the club?

He's like that comical Ali fella back when Iraq was under attack.

Of course they do!!

Excuse me for being a dumb fuck. 

[scott_d]

Considering who is available right now and the need for some stability, I'd keep him and see how the summer goes.  But he has to hit the ground running in the new season.

As some have said, his selections have been a bit worrying.  He played some of the kids in the earlier games when we arguably needed to pick up points to ensure safety, but we have reached a point where Guido Rodiriguez makes the bench when it's abundantly clear he's gone in the summer, probably same for Creswell.

This isn't just a Potter thing though.  We've had so many nothing seasons in the last 20 years where we are safe from relegation with nothing left to play for in the final run-in and for me, this is always the perfect chance to give a few youngsters an opportunity with a little less pressure.

But we never do it.  Not under any recent manager.


 

[Manuel]

Based on what?

It can't be anything you've seen on the pitch, you're just a thick cսnt who pretends to be ultra positive for the sake of it, you plank.

 

Spurs/Man U have outside chance of champions league and no way bothered about playing us and Ipswich are actually a worse team than us
Brighton are in poor form plus Forest are going to blow out on champions league place
I do apologise for being an optimist you miserable doom and gloom no mark 

Spurs and Man Utd have an outside chance of CL?

Are you looking at the right year's league table?

The winner of the EL gets into the CL.

More to the point joyo is still playing the role of simple optimistic and club man, and STILL spinning the ''doom and gloom'' line. I wonder what it would take for him to criticize the club?

He's like that comical Ali fella back when Iraq was under attack.

[Russ of the BML]

Typical Eyetie defeatist surrender attitude 
l reckon we will win 3 of those games and draw with a very nervous Forest team losing their bottle(bit like you actually)

Based on what?

It can't be anything you've seen on the pitch, you're just a thick cսnt who pretends to be ultra positive for the sake of it, you plank.

 

Spurs/Man U have outside chance of champions league and no way bothered about playing us and Ipswich are actually a worse team than us
Brighton are in poor form plus Forest are going to blow out on champions league place
I do apologise for being an optimist you miserable doom and gloom no mark 

Spurs and Man Utd have an outside chance of CL?

Are you looking at the right year's league table?

[Takashi Miike]

I dont think relegation seems inevitable at all, but that's not where the standards should now be set. The midget cսnt and his sidekick took us to that shithole under false pretences, and now they need to live up to those expectations. The first being, that bottom half finishes and this constant dire brand of football isn't good enough. Makes me laugh that people believe Macauley will have any input in to what Diddy Dave, Salthouse and Silkman serve up

[Sir Alf]

I need to see the game again to recall if Potter made his changes at a point where we were in control and was it the Soucek introduction that triggered the “retreat” or the replacement of Bowen, Kudus then Fullkrug ?  Were we already in retreat when subs were made or did one set of subs seem to cause it. It felt like the latter? Then again was it the Southampton subs and instructions to “go for it” push everyone forward actually the key?  The whole point here is that it all points to a manager who cannot do the in game management and simply had it in his head to give certain players minutes at certain times without looking at was going on.  Seen that so often under managers not just at West Ham.  

I think he changed it with Soucek, they made subs, started pushing forward and he shat himself thinking put on more subs or fresh legs to protect the points. It backfired spectacularly.  

In truth, for once, not making changes would likely seen us over the line and perhaps get another goal as they were throwing so many forward and exposing themselves to the one thing we can still do which is a swift, direct, 2 or 3 pass counter attack. In fact all our chances ( not many ) came from that. Quick counters from deep in our own half. That was Moyesball’s strength. 

Like many, Im now desperately searching for “hope” and am left with praying that Macaulay identifies some young, hungry, athletic but technicallly sound players who are also strong physically to transform our lethargic, geriatric midfield. But then I remember Sullivan is back in charge. The only club in any league in the world to not properly implement a DOF and make it a Technical Director ( no overall control on recruitment, planning, budget) , only give the half arsed approach it a season anyway ( almost as if Sullivan had wanted it to fail it before it started ) before goimg back to the 30 year old model that had already been failing !!  Knee jerk / short term panicking in the extreme. 

Potter, Lopetegui, Moyes, Bilic, BFS, Zola etc none of them really had a “full deck of cards” to play with under Sullivan and Moyes success ( relative ) seemed more a happy accudent and certainly not part of some long term planning.

We’re back full circle. Sullivan the root cause. Next out of work appointed manager almost certain to be a failure.  Relegation sems inevitable its. Just when is the question. 

[Maverick180180]

There is no way Sullivan will dispense with Potter's services regardless of his results between now and the end of the season

He won't want to pay him off and will dig his heals in that he brought in the right man who just needs time and some new players.

On that basis we can only hope for the best but it will be interesting to see how many buy into it or walk away from renewing or attending next season




 

Sadly that's exactly to be the case once the Club stupidly agreed to sign off on awarding media darling Potter a 2 and a half year contract for his services, having failed miserably in his last job at Chelsea almost 2 years ago with an embarrassment of riches available to him.

Only if we badly lost every game from now to the end of the season might they possibly think twice, but when you consider the Club agrees to also bring in Potters main man in recruiting Macauley, it's set up for them to persevere with him. Couple that with the fact that the Wicked Witch of the West Ham, Lady Muck instigated Potters arrival due to the old pals act they share with her other half who all have far too much of a say at Boardroom level, this yes man coward aint going anywhere soon. They've committed too much now to this Potter Project that I just can't see them going back on it. They definitely should (just as they should never have hired him in the 1st place) but they won't and it's going to set us back further the longer he remains. 

If the rumours about setting up the eventual Summer arrival of Allegri were true, as Allegri didn't want to agree to joining anyone mid-season then we've royally fucked that opportunity up now we've given Potter such a lengthy secure contract (unless there is a genuine break clause - which I strongly doubt). Sullivan ain't forking out for all that compo as well as Allegri's justified salary. 

It's all just a bit of a mess ain't it..to say the fucking least. Well done, West Ham. 

BS OUT!

This is a detailed post that explains why any you moronic cunts backing Potter are essentially backing Karren Brady’s footballing knowledge and this exactly the level you sit at 
now don’t get me wrong, it’s possible Karren Brady knows an awful lot about football cos after all she hasn’t had a pre season yet or any chance to bring in any of her players……

[Manuel]

There is no way Sullivan will dispense with Potter's services regardless of his results between now and the end of the season

He won't want to pay him off and will dig his heals in that he brought in the right man who just needs time and some new players.

On that basis we can only hope for the best but it will be interesting to see how many buy into it or walk away from renewing or attending next season




 

Sadly that's exactly to be the case once the Club stupidly agreed to sign off on awarding media darling Potter a 2 and a half year contract for his services, having failed miserably in his last job at Chelsea almost 2 years ago with an embarrassment of riches available to him.

Only if we badly lost every game from now to the end of the season might they possibly think twice, but when you consider the Club agrees to also bring in Potters main man in recruiting Macauley, it's set up for them to persevere with him. Couple that with the fact that the Wicked Witch of the West Ham, Lady Muck instigated Potters arrival due to the old pals act they share with her other half who all have far too much of a say at Boardroom level, this yes man coward aint going anywhere soon. They've committed too much now to this Potter Project that I just can't see them going back on it. They definitely should (just as they should never have hired him in the 1st place) but they won't and it's going to set us back further the longer he remains. 

If the rumours about setting up the eventual Summer arrival of Allegri were true, as Allegri didn't want to agree to joining anyone mid-season then we've royally fucked that opportunity up now we've given Potter such a lengthy secure contract (unless there is a genuine break clause - which I strongly doubt). Sullivan ain't forking out for all that compo as well as Allegri's justified salary. 

It's all just a bit of a mess ain't it..to say the fucking least. Well done, West Ham. 

BS OUT!

Good to see you back, massive.

[Massive Attack]

There is no way Sullivan will dispense with Potter's services regardless of his results between now and the end of the season

He won't want to pay him off and will dig his heals in that he brought in the right man who just needs time and some new players.

On that basis we can only hope for the best but it will be interesting to see how many buy into it or walk away from renewing or attending next season



 

Sadly that's exactly to be the case once the Club stupidly agreed to sign off on awarding media darling Potter a 2 and a half year contract for his services, having failed miserably in his last job at Chelsea almost 2 years ago with an embarrassment of riches available to him.

Only if we badly lost every game from now to the end of the season might they possibly think twice, but when you consider the Club agrees to also bring in Potters main man in recruiting Macauley, it's set up for them to persevere with him. Couple that with the fact that the Wicked Witch of the West Ham, Lady Muck instigated Potters arrival due to the old pals act they share with her other half who all have far too much of a say at Boardroom level, this yes man coward aint going anywhere soon. They've committed too much now to this Potter Project that I just can't see them going back on it. They definitely should (just as they should never have hired him in the 1st place) but they won't and it's going to set us back further the longer he remains. 

If the rumours about setting up the eventual Summer arrival of Allegri were true, as Allegri didn't want to agree to joining anyone mid-season then we've royally fucked that opportunity up now we've given Potter such a lengthy secure contract (unless there is a genuine break clause - which I strongly doubt). Sullivan ain't forking out for all that compo as well as Allegri's justified salary. 

It's all just a bit of a mess ain't it..to say the fucking least. Well done, West Ham. 

BS OUT!

[northbankboy68]

I'd bring in the Stockport County Manager

[Cerveza Para Mi]

But if Potter goes who comes in to replace him.?  I am actually thinking, difficult as it is to comprehend, that we would have been better off sticking with Lopetegui.  I have zero confidence in the ability of the stunted dwarf to have any idea of potential managerial replacements.  His wish list would, I suspect, at this moment be headed by the name of the bloke Moyes replaced at Everton. Alternatiuvely I wonder what Tony Pulis is getting up to these days.

Established, succesful managers would swerve West Ham at all costs and the up and coming "promising" brigade would be very concerned that the reputations they are building would be destroyed by walking into the Sullivan shit show.

[goose]

You ain’t half dumb joyo son.

[Cerveza Para Mi]

Brighton away 
Spurs home
Man U away
Forest home
Ipswich away

l reckon we will win 3 of those games and draw with a very nervous Forest team losing their bottle(bit like you actually)

I wish I was your bookie.

[Eerie Decent]

As I said, based on absolutely nothing. Newcastle had a cup final and their first chance to win something in fuck knows how long, under the lights at home, and we didn't lay a fucking glove on them.

Who knows, but your 'I'm just a cup half full kinda guy' cringe half baked blind optimism for the sake of it fools no one, you lycra clad featherweight.

[XKhammer]

5 games left:

Brighton away 
Spurs home
Man U away
Forest home
Ipswich away


Unless spurs & MU play the kids I don’t see us winning another game this season.




 

Typical Eyetie defeatist surrender attitude 
l reckon we will win 3 of those games and draw with a very nervous Forest team losing their bottle(bit like you actually)

Based on what?

It can't be anything you've seen on the pitch, you're just a thick cսnt who pretends to be ultra positive for the sake of it, you plank.

 

 

Spurs/Man U have outside chance of champions league and no way bothered about playing us and Ipswich are actually a worse team than us
Brighton are in poor form plus Forest are going to blow out on champions league place
I do apologise for being an optimist you miserable doom and gloom no mark 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Really disappointed with his team selections as soon as we were statistically safe, to be honest.

Would have expected at least half a dozen of the yoof to have been given at least 30 minutes each to inject a bit of passion into the play.

I suspect that option  was blocked from him from above by someone who didn't want to pay extra for those first team minutes...or risk an injury preventing them being shunted out in the summer for maximum dollar.

[Eerie Decent]

5 games left:

Brighton away 
Spurs home
Man U away
Forest home
Ipswich away


Unless spurs & MU play the kids I don’t see us winning another game this season.


 

Typical Eyetie defeatist surrender attitude 
l reckon we will win 3 of those games and draw with a very nervous Forest team losing their bottle(bit like you actually)

Based on what?

It can't be anything you've seen on the pitch, you're just a thick cսnt who pretends to be ultra positive for the sake of it, you plank.

[goose]

5 games left:

Brighton away 
Spurs home
Man U away
Forest home
Ipswich away


Unless spurs & MU play the kids I don’t see us winning another game this season.


 

Typical Eyetie defeatist surrender attitude 
l reckon we will win 3 of those games and draw with a very nervous Forest team losing their bottle(bit like you actually)

You ain’t half dumb joyo son.

And do get too excited about spurs playing the kids, it’s not the kind of kids you’re interested in.

[XKhammer]

5 games left:

Brighton away 
Spurs home
Man U away
Forest home
Ipswich away


Unless spurs & MU play the kids I don’t see us winning another game this season.

 

Typical Eyetie defeatist surrender attitude 
l reckon we will win 3 of those games and draw with a very nervous Forest team losing their bottle(bit like you actually)

[Eerie Decent]

Yeah Potter just seems the wrong fit for bigger clubs. His success has been improving smaller, less fancied clubs where the expectations are more modest. Even at those clubs it took time something you dont get much of in the Premier League.

Slowly at Brighton they did improve league positions albeit it wasnt a “straight line” but he did build foundations that De Zerbi then took to another level.  In Sweden? It took 5 years but saw him wim the league and get into the QF of the Champs league with a little known team. 

Oct- Xmas he willl be gone I suspect

Said on here years ago that I never thought he had the personality, the gumption for a club like ours. He seems weak and feeble, perfect for a club like Brighton, but you need to be a big character to manage West Ham.

[goose]

5 games left:

Brighton away 
Spurs home
Man U away
Forest home
Ipswich away


Unless spurs & MU play the kids I don’t see us winning another game this season.
 

[Sir Alf]

Yeah Potter just seems the wrong fit for bigger clubs. His success has been improving smaller, less fancied clubs where the expectations are more modest. Even at those clubs it took time something you dont get much of in the Premier League.

Slowly at Brighton they did improve league positions albeit it wasnt a “straight line” but he did build foundations that De Zerbi then took to another level.  In Sweden? It took 5 years but saw him wim the league and get into the QF of the Champs league with a little known team. 

Oct- Xmas he willl be gone I suspect