Potter Out

[THUNDERCLINT]

Had enough of this arogrant no mark now.  

11 games, 27% win ratio and 0.66 goals per game.

Either the break clause is true or this flake quits otherwise were proper fucked.

[Fauxstralian]

If Potter were to be sacked now we would be looking for a 4th manager in the last 12 months
In any normal situation that would see the Chairman & board considering their position due to their incompetence 
Having a midget pornographer in charge of a major football club is obviously not a normal situation in any circumstance 
 

[threesixty]

Ok, I think we are mixing what we want to happen with the actual reality of the situation.
If it was up to me I'd want us to sack Potter and get in one of the best up and coming coaches in Europe and pay almost whatever it takes to prise them out of their current club in the summer.

Not going to happen is it. 

 Through poor management at board level we've been overtaken by clubs we couldn't even imagine being premier league a few years ago.

Back to being a laughing stock I suppose.

 

 

I just think it’s different this time in terms of why Sullivan wouldn’t want to sack some one. 
The cure seems worse than the original desease at the moment. 

Normally you’d have some other factor pushing Sullivan in the other direction to sacking. Pelligrini was a league champion, Moyes got us to Europe and performed well early on, pardew got us to a cup final etc etc. Even Loppy has a record that you’d think maybe we’d give it some time.  

Potter doesn’t really have anything does he? Even avram grant had more compelling reasons to keep going with him!

And Maybe if it was mid season I’d wonder about disruption etc. but this summer is perfect. There isn’t anything on paper at least that would lead anyone to keep this guy. 

and yeah he may do well in some “sliding doors” alternative universe if he has a pre season and a transfer window.  But in reality he’s kind of had that already. And hasn’t done the business. 

id be astonished if he was still manager in the summer. 
(Lol.. but it’s West Ham so probably not astonished..)

[Maverick180180]

In order to do better than Lopetegui, Potter has to get 8 points or more from the last 4 games 
And even that doesn’t take into account that Lopetegui had to face and get beat by Man City twice, Potter has had the luxury of them being the one team he’s dodged 

[cholo]

Ok, I think we are mixing what we want to happen with the actual reality of the situation.
If it was up to me I'd want us to sack Potter and get in one of the best up and coming coaches in Europe and pay almost whatever it takes to prise them out of their current club in the summer.

Not going to happen is it. 

 Through poor management at board level we've been overtaken by clubs we couldn't even imagine being premier league a few years ago.

Back to being a laughing stock I suppose.

[threesixty]

We will never get a better opportunity to fix a managerial problem than we have now. Every other way to fix this issue is sub optimal. If you get rid of him at any other point in the year it fucks you somehow. In the summer, it’s fine,

the only reason to keep Potter is if you think he’s done well or really believe without any doubts that what you have seen means he is going to do well in the future.

its a no brainer to sack him at the end of the season. Just on stats alone. He has no excuses for performing worse than the manager he replaced. And if the standards for dismissal are Lopetegui’s results, then Potter should be gone and there should be no complaints from him or anyone else.  

And the idea that we should stick with someone because we can’t keep sacking managers is silly really. This the most important cog in the wheel and needs to be fit for purpose. It’s also the cheapest solution , getting rid of 8 players and losing on transfer fees etc is far more expensive than replacing Potter and his team.

This should be a pure business decision. 

[Eerie Decent]

I'm more in the camp of changing and sticking with a manager who likes his teams to at least attempt to have shots on the opposition goal, regardless of who the owner is or what players he has.

[Sir Alf]

I suppose the counter argument is are we happy entrusting the transfer kitty to someone like Steve Cooper, Rafa Benitez , GON, Dyche or another out of work, 60+ year old ex manager of a “big” club 10 years ago? 

Not much of a choice is it.  

[cholo]

Absolutely pointless binning Potter. We'd only get Cooper or Gary O'Reilly in to replace them. The problem is the people picking the managers and running the club (into the ground).



 

So you are happy to entrust our transfer chest with Potter? 

Not particularly, you're asking as if I have a choice.

All I'm saying is at some point we'll have to stick with one of the mediocre managers that the board give us. We've been absolute dogshit since 2023 after all.

[Swiss.]

Absolutely pointless binning Potter. We'd only get Cooper or Gary O'Reilly in to replace them. The problem is the people picking the managers and running the club (into the ground).


 

So you are happy to entrust our transfer chest with Potter? 

[cholo]

Absolutely pointless binning Potter. We'd only get Cooper or Gary O'Reilly in to replace them. The problem is the people picking the managers and running the club (into the ground).

 

[Cerveza Para Mi]

Sullivan and Brady are the issue.  Potters a passing phase .

Exactly. Potter is a symptom. Not the illness. 

And that point sums up preciusely why it is pointless to keep changing the manager, head coach oir whatever else we want to call him.

This club, under the present ownership, in fact under every bloody ownership since I started taking an interst in football many years ago, has always been an underperformimng basket case of a club.  We have had occasional "moments", for me the best season ever was 1985/86 when we finished 3rd and I was watching us play our last game of the season at West Brom with us still having, at kick off time, a chance of ending the season as league champions. But those moments are few and far between. We even fucked up the impetus that wonderful season could have given us by failing to invest in the squad and add just one or two players to kick on and within, what was it, 3 years, we were relegated.

The club wilkl never be anything other than one of a number of clubs simply there to make up the numbers until there is a massive change of ethos at the very top.  Anby fleetiung success will happen by accident or good fortune rather than as a result of structured development and improvement of the club as a whole.

And that has to come from the top.

[Maverick180180]

We have a continuing thread on this forum about depression and anxiety yet here we are absolutely tearing Potter apart and basically cyber bullying him. If he ever read this thread he would be horrified with many of the things said about him. The sad thing is none of you would say it to his face because you are just keyboard bullies. I have no beef with Potter, I don’t care if he stays or goes but some of the abuse he gets on here is embarrassing. 

I reckon this is the wankiest thing I have ever read on WHO. Actually, I don't reckon, it absolutely is.

Congratulations, you absolute gimp.

This gimp threatened to punch someone's face in a few weeks ago.. 
​​​​​​Not to mention he's ex-filth so should know about being a fucking bully. Spends wlhis whole time abusing those whose opinion differ from his.. The lack of self awareness is staggering.. 

He used to be a copper!
oh that’s brilliant 
I had this prick down as being either a teacher or a copper 
Hilarious how cunts always live up to the stereotype 

[fraser]

We have a continuing thread on this forum about depression and anxiety yet here we are absolutely tearing Potter apart and basically cyber bullying him. If he ever read this thread he would be horrified with many of the things said about him. The sad thing is none of you would say it to his face because you are just keyboard bullies. I have no beef with Potter, I don’t care if he stays or goes but some of the abuse he gets on here is embarrassing. 

I reckon this is the wankiest thing I have ever read on WHO. Actually, I don't reckon, it absolutely is.

Congratulations, you absolute gimp.

This gimp threatened to punch someone's face in a few weeks ago.. 
​​​​​​Not to mention he's ex-filth so should know about being a fucking bully. Spends wlhis whole time abusing those whose opinion differ from his.. The lack of self awareness is staggering.. 

[Eerie Decent]

We have a continuing thread on this forum about depression and anxiety yet here we are absolutely tearing Potter apart and basically cyber bullying him. If he ever read this thread he would be horrified with many of the things said about him. The sad thing is none of you would say it to his face because you are just keyboard bullies. I have no beef with Potter, I don’t care if he stays or goes but some of the abuse he gets on here is embarrassing. 

I reckon this is the wankiest thing I have ever read on WHO. Actually, I don't reckon, it absolutely is.

Congratulations, you absolute gimp.

[Russ of the BML]

Sullivan and Brady are the issue.  Potters a passing phase .

Exactly. Potter is a symptom. Not the illness. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

Fonseca (and Galtier) agreed to come on deals where they walked away for nothing if we didn't finish in the top 10, if we did they got two year deals.


Yet we employed Cock Piss Fucking Potter. Someone needs flaying for this fuck up.

[Pshyco scored all 4]

Sullivan and Brady are the issue.  Potters a passing phase .

[Lee Trundle]

I just want something for my hopes to cling on to for next season.

But there's been nothing really, has there?

The best thing I can say he's done is that we don't look like we're going to beaten 5-0, yet.

5-0 or 3-2 the points are the same. A loss is ALWAYS ZERO points.

You never know, goal difference might be handy next season for us.

And at least I have the urge to stay for the whole game if we're in the game with 10 mins to go.

I'm scrapping the barrel here!

[threesixty]

When the canteen staff and all the other workers at the club lose their jobs because we are languishing in the championship or worse… i want people to have the same energy about their “mental health” too

The job of manager has serious implications for everyone involved with the club. Potter has millions in the bank and doesn’t need to work at all unlike lots of people he will effect. Also these guys get to make and destroy footballing careers. 

I give zero fucks about criticising how this man does his job. 
 

[BRANDED]

I just want something for my hopes to cling on to for next season.

But there's been nothing really, has there?

The best thing I can say he's done is that we don't look like we're going to beaten 5-0, yet.

5-0 or 3-2 the points are the same. A loss is ALWAYS ZERO points.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Potter's pre-season schedule is a bunch of fuckeries so far is it not?

OK, it's not Dagenham & Redbridge, Harlow and Braintree, but fucking off halfway around the planet on a marketing jolly ain't gonna help.

[Sir Alf]

Away games there has been some signs of hope imo and trying to be a tad optimistic. 

Home games? Zilch, nowt.  Teams start on the back foot and look to counter or deep and also Potter feels he has to set up with a more attack oriented formation and team and we look vulnerable. 

We have simply not been able to recruit effectively, in terms of both players and the manager/coaching team, to change from a low possession/ low block and counter team to one that can control the possession and open teams up by passing thru and around.  Its not easy to do either. Nuno failed at Wolves trying to do this, Vierra failed at Palace, Ange is currentlly failing at Spurs,  just some examples where fans wanted a better style.  Nuno went back to a low block model of play at Forest and its been highly successful.  Not sure their fans will put up with 30% possession longer term but for one or two seasons and a top 6 finish its acceptable just as Moyesball was while we were getting a lot of wins and European football.  Rice leaving has was also far more damaging than we thought at first. He had singlehandedly disguised the old, slow, “not fit for purpose” midfield and squad we had. 

We had to get recruitment and transfer business right last summer but it became apparent early this season that we had failed spectacularly again.  

This coming summer is “last chance saloon”. Get it wrong again, its relegation imo regardless of who Sullivan has in charge because we know his appointment will be from a pool of out of work managers with Premier League experience.  

Like I mentioned in other threads, I am hoping/praying that Potter proves us all wrong but wont be expecting anything until August. Even then it may be modest but hopefully enough to see us avoid relegation next season.  

[Massive Attack]

I just hope he doesn't have too much of an interest in our OAP's for next season.

I've got a horrible feeling we'll be offering Cresswell and Antonio new contracts for whatever reason.

There's already been murmurs about giving Cresswell another contract which would be a joke if we did that. 

As for Academy kids, he didn't name a single 1 on the bench this weekend and presume Scarles wasn't injured. Did he drop him as well as Fullkrug after the Southampton game?

[Lee Trundle]

I just hope he doesn't have too much of an interest in our OAP's for next season.

I've got a horrible feeling we'll be offering Cresswell and Antonio new contracts for whatever reason.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

I just want something for my hopes to cling on to for next season.

But there's been nothing really, has there?

The best thing I can say he's done is that we don't look like we're going to beaten 5-0, yet.

The only thing is his interest in our youth academy. Which won’t likely be of interest to most other options to replace him. Like that woeful Spanish cսnt.