The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

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[only1billybonds]

rios.

Does the fact that so much was covered up for the flimsiest of reasons not suggest that we have already failed as a society? 

Good to see you  posting again.

[Massive Attack]

Full National extensive Inquiry is needed. It will take time but it needs to be extremely thorough if we are to get to the bottom of the past as well as the very present. Nothing to date come close to that level of scrutiny. 

[riosleftsock]

Billy

The Jay report does need to have its recommendations implemented, but in order to ensure we hold those accountable, we need a public enquiry to expose to everybody how and why these awful crimes were covered up and by who.

The abuse is still going on in many towns and Cities across the UK and Europe.  These are some of the most vulnerable young people and children in our society, if we can not protect these or hold accountable those who prey on them and allow it to happen or turn a blind eye or wilfully cover up, then we have completely failed as a society.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Latest cսnt off the block I give you the right dishonourable Leader of the House Lucy Powell...



https://www.gbnews.com/politics/groomin ... ir-starmer

Typical of the contemptible scumbags in charge of our Nation and just goes to show why they drag their heels over a proper National Inquiry in to 1 of the biggest scandals this Country has ever seen.

FUCK HER OFF  


 

I thought the reason yhere isnt going to be an inquiry into grooming gangs was because there'd already been a 2 year investigation and report published in 2022. 

What the govt need to do is act on the recommendations from that report!

[Massive Attack]

Latest cսnt off the block I give you the right dishonourable Leader of the House Lucy Powell...



https://www.gbnews.com/politics/groomin ... ir-starmer

Typical of the contemptible scumbags in charge of our Nation and just goes to show why they drag their heels over a proper National Inquiry in to 1 of the biggest scandals this Country has ever seen.

FUCK HER OFF  

 

[Sydney_Iron]

When I said you get what you deserve I was talking about how you were ready to vote out the Gov’t you just re-elected because of Trumps Tariffs.

seems a bit silly to vote in the Gov’t you don’t really like over some cattle.

 

 

TBH, it was more like the media and pollsters who seemed to think it may have been a close contest and the opposition had a sniff, but didnt help when the LNP started sounding all Trump like in some of their spiel! Which put lot of people off I reckon, even if a good portion like me are not all anti Trump, on some issues I think he has a lot of support over here but overall seen as a bit unhinged with his Canada and Greenland rants, then flip flopping and changing his mind on issues! 

I wasn’t bothered either way, it was center right LNP or center left ALP so no massive change, I actually voted LNP but preferenced the ALP, Australia has a system where by you vote by numbering candidates in order of preference and those preferences count towards the final count, we also have compulsory voting so I think more people take and intrest and are better informed. 

Was surprised by the margin of the win as was everyone, a hung parliament was expected, but at least it looks like the radical left Greens have lost a good few seats, not that they had a lot, but no doubt those left will be as noisy and annoying as ever.

[Nutsin]

 

And just like the Canadians you’ll get just what you deserve. Only worse because you chose to confront Trumps attempt to create fair trade for all.

Dumb move by your proud electorate. 

Good luck with that.

What we deserve? A free and fair society with a government committed to serving all Australians? Tough on border controls especially with illegals, pro business and strong on education and health care for ALL, I will take that thanks.

Not sure Australia has in any way pushed back against Trump and his tariffs/free trade or whatever, think we said we wouldn’t be imposing tariffs of our own. And with Australia being one of the few countries who actually imports more from the USA then we export to them, and the claim we ban USA beef being shown to be untrue as long as what’s exported is USA beef and not indirectly from Mexico or other latin/South American country’s im not sure what we have done or unaware of any upset to the Orange man?  

When I said you get what you deserve I was talking about how you were ready to vote out the Gov’t you just re-elected because of Trumps Tariffs.

seems a bit silly to vote in the Gov’t you don’t really like over some cattle.

[Sydney_Iron]

 

And just like the Canadians you’ll get just what you deserve. Only worse because you chose to confront Trumps attempt to create fair trade for all.

Dumb move by your proud electorate. 

Good luck with that.

What we deserve? A free and fair society with a government committed to serving all Australians? Tough on border controls especially with illegals, pro business and strong on education and health care for ALL, I will take that thanks.

Not sure Australia has in any way pushed back against Trump and his tariffs/free trade or whatever, think we said we wouldn’t be imposing tariffs of our own. And with Australia being one of the few countries who actually imports more from the USA then we export to them, and the claim we ban USA beef being shown to be untrue as long as what’s exported is USA beef and not indirectly from Mexico or other latin/South American country’s im not sure what we have done or unaware of any upset to the Orange man?  

[Nutsin]

Billy

Looks
like the EU are ready to cave

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/05/01/busi ... mp-tariffs


I wonder what Trumps counter offer will be?

 

oh dear you think thats a deal! its a drop in the ocean compared to the overall trade. 

I never said it’s a deal. It’s a revised offer after they had already said they would remove all tariffs on industrial goods. 

As I said let’s see how Trump counters, we already know he thinks the EU is too far left so I don’t expect him to be in any rush to accept any offer. However at the end of it all there will be a lot of countries stepping up I’m just not sure we have enough qualified people to fill all these jobs. Gonna be a great opportunity for Americans to develop a career. I would imagine a lot of votes will be won because of it. Especially with the younger generation.

[Nutsin]

Australian election yesterday almost mirrored what happened in Canada!

A couple of months ago the center right opposition looking good to win, then all the Trump shenanigans and the center left win comfortably with the leader of the opposition losing his seat.

How much Trump played a part is debatable, but one side distanced themselves from his type of policy’s and the other suggested we should consider similar?????

Should be said that Australias version of Labour (Labor here) is very different to Sir Keir and co!!!!  Similar name only really who are more center than left.

And just like the Canadians you’ll get just what you deserve. Only worse because you chose to confront Trumps attempt to create fair trade for all.

Dumb move by your proud electorate. 

Good luck with that.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Billy

Looks
like the EU are ready to cave

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/05/01/busi ... mp-tariffs


I wonder what Trumps counter offer will be?

 

 

oh dear you think thats a deal! its a drop in the ocean compared to the overall trade. 

[goose]

Moving production to India for now is smart as there will be no supply chain issues. 

New trade agreements will settle if we want or need to make them here.

One things for sure, Trump will do what makes sense and what’s best for the USA.

Poor Goose,


I’d keep an eye on Chinese factory output if I were you. Not looking good, reports of civil unrest and layoffs are already happening across China.

China has quietly removed some Tariffs too and are now willing to negotiate, although don’t expect things to get ironed out over night. I’d expect more production to be moved away from China and in to other countries.

People are sick of the way China cheats with IP theft and Dumping and currency manipulation. China plays dirty and now is a good time to get away from all their u fair trade tactics.

It makes sense because it’s cheaper with already established supply chains that are incredibly complex. They aren’t moving their manufacturing from China or India to the US, it’s just not happening.

What moves and to where remains to be seen. But manufacturing in the US will explode, doubtful it will be for manufacturing kids toys and small ticket items. However Tech, Chips, Technology, Auto, pharma, steel, shipbuilding will all see a renaissance in the USA, amongst others.

One things for sure the US will manufacture any product considered a necessity for National security interests. No more supply chain threats for essentials.

China will have to restructure its economy something they don’t want to do. So we will see how it all shoes out but Trump holds the cards.

 

 

Something like 50% of US defence systems & infrastructure uses chips from China. Good luck with that.

As I showed you previously, you cannot make semiconductors without China. The US doesn’t have the REEs or the processing capability. Nobody has anywhere near the scale required outside of China.

Same with pharmaceuticals, about 80% of the active ingredients come from China.

You’re living in a dreamland.

[BillyJenningsBoots]

Here you go Billy,
Here’s another one!

https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/politic ... 08-237666/

So Japenese Company buys an American steel company (thats making America great) and spends money on its investment. Not sure you understand any of this Nutsack!

[Sydney_Iron]

Australian election yesterday almost mirrored what happened in Canada!

A couple of months ago the center right opposition looking good to win, then all the Trump shenanigans and the center left win comfortably with the leader of the opposition losing his seat.

How much Trump played a part is debatable, but one side distanced themselves from his type of policy’s and the other suggested we should consider similar?????

Should be said that Australias version of Labour (Labor here) is very different to Sir Keir and co!!!!  Similar name only really who are more center than left.

[Nutsin]

 

It was Trump and his administration who said they’d be making iPhones in the USA.

Moving production to India for now is smart as there will be no supply chain issues. 

New trade agreements will settle if we want or need to make them here.

One things for sure, Trump will do what makes sense and what’s best for the USA.

Poor Goose,


I’d keep an eye on Chinese factory output if I were you. Not looking good, reports of civil unrest and layoffs are already happening across China.

China has quietly removed some Tariffs too and are now willing to negotiate, although don’t expect things to get ironed out over night. I’d expect more production to be moved away from China and in to other countries.

People are sick of the way China cheats with IP theft and Dumping and currency manipulation. China plays dirty and now is a good time to get away from all their u fair trade tactics.

It makes sense because it’s cheaper with already established supply chains that are incredibly complex. They aren’t moving their manufacturing from China or India to the US, it’s just not happening.

What moves and to where remains to be seen. But manufacturing in the US will explode, doubtful it will be for manufacturing kids toys and small ticket items. However Tech, Chips, Technology, Auto, pharma, steel, shipbuilding will all see a renaissance in the USA, amongst others.

One things for sure the US will manufacture any product considered a necessity for National security interests. No more supply chain threats for essentials.

China will have to restructure its economy something they don’t want to do. So we will see how it all shoes out but Trump holds the cards.

[goose]

Here is the published announcement from Apple dated Feb 2025. Announcing a $500 billion investment into US manufacturing.

I suggest you read it because it doesn’t mention making I phones.

Once again you have proven yourself to be clueless.


https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/ ... our-years/


Poor Goose, just keeps digging a bigger hole.

 

It was Trump and his administration who said they’d be making iPhones in the USA.

Moving production to India for now is smart as there will be no supply chain issues. 

New trade agreements will settle if we want or need to make them here.

One things for sure, Trump will do what makes sense and what’s best for the USA.

Poor Goose,


I’d keep an eye on Chinese factory output if I were you. Not looking good, reports of civil unrest and layoffs are already happening across China.

China has quietly removed some Tariffs too and are now willing to negotiate, although don’t expect things to get ironed out over night. I’d expect more production to be moved away from China and in to other countries.

People are sick of the way China cheats with IP theft and Dumping and currency manipulation. China plays dirty and now is a good time to get away from all their u fair trade tactics.

It makes sense because it’s cheaper with already established supply chains that are incredibly complex. They aren’t moving their manufacturing from China or India to the US, it’s just not happening.

[Nutsin]

That’s all you get for now Billy,

although there is more if you want to see them.

Just let me know. 

[Nutsin]

They’re facts.

The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.

Here is the published announcement from Apple dated Feb 2025. Announcing a $500 billion investment into US manufacturing.

I suggest you read it because it doesn’t mention making I phones.

Once again you have proven yourself to be clueless.


https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/ ... our-years/


Poor Goose, just keeps digging a bigger hole.

 

It was Trump and his administration who said they’d be making iPhones in the USA.

Moving production to India for now is smart as there will be no supply chain issues. 

New trade agreements will settle if we want or need to make them here.

One things for sure, Trump will do what makes sense and what’s best for the USA.

Poor Goose,


I’d keep an eye on Chinese factory output if I were you. Not looking good, reports of civil unrest and layoffs are already happening across China.

China has quietly removed some Tariffs too and are now willing to negotiate, although don’t expect things to get ironed out over night. I’d expect more production to be moved away from China and in to other countries.

People are sick of the way China cheats with IP theft and Dumping and currency manipulation. China plays dirty and now is a good time to get away from all their u fair trade tactics.

[Nutsin]

Billy

Looks
like the EU are ready to cave

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/05/01/busi ... mp-tariffs


I wonder what Trumps counter offer will be?

[Nutsin]

Billy,

and another for you to enjoy.

https://apnews.com/article/roche-switze ... a01d079ae8#

[goose]

So desperate!

They’re facts.

The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.

Here is the published announcement from Apple dated Feb 2025. Announcing a $500 billion investment into US manufacturing.

I suggest you read it because it doesn’t mention making I phones.

Once again you have proven yourself to be clueless.


https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/ ... our-years/


Poor Goose, just keeps digging a bigger hole.

 

 

It was Trump and his administration who said they’d be making iPhones in the USA.

[Nutsin]

Billy,
And another.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 025-01-22/

[Nutsin]

Here you go Billy,
Here’s another one!

https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/politic ... 08-237666/

[Nutsin]

Here you go Billy,

https://www.voanews.com/amp/trump-taiwa ... 95845.html

 

[Nutsin]

Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.

Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.

thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.

So desperate!

They’re facts.

The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.

Here is the published announcement from Apple dated Feb 2025. Announcing a $500 billion investment into US manufacturing.

I suggest you read it because it doesn’t mention making I phones.

Once again you have proven yourself to be clueless.


https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/ ... our-years/


Poor Goose, just keeps digging a bigger hole.